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We've Been Sold Down The River!
« on: February 27, 2009, 06:41:02 AM »
If this is true, we're screwed.

Feds Grant Eminent Domain As Collateral To China For U.S. Debts!

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/fraud/us_government/news.php?q=1235700773

HAL TURNER
       
February 26, 2009

Beijing, China -- Sources at the United States Embassy in Beijing China have just CONFIRMED to me that the United States of America has tendered to China a written agreement which grants to the People's Republic of China, an option to exercise Eminent Domain within the USA, as collateral for China's continued purchase of US Treasury Notes and existing US Currency reserves!


The written agreement was brought to Beijing by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and was formalized and agreed-to during her recent trip to China.


This means that in the event the US Government defaults on its financial obligations to China, the Communist Government of China would be permitted to physically take -- inside the USA -- land, buildings, factories, perhaps even entire cities - to satisfy the financial obligations of the US government.


Put simply, the feds have now actually mortgaged the physical land and property of all citizens and businesses in the United States. They have given to a foreign power, their Constitutional power to "take" all of our property, as actual collateral for continued Chinese funding of US deficit spending and the continued carrying of US national debt.


This is an unimaginable betrayal of every man, woman and child in the USA. An outrage worthy of violent overthrow.


I am endeavoring to obtain images or copies of the actual document but in the interim, several different sources both in the US and in China have CONFIRMED this to me.


More details as they become available. . . . . spread the word ASAP.


-------------- UPDATE 1:40 pm EST


Eminent Domain is the power of government to TAKE private property for public use without the consent of the property owner. Under our Constitution, the government can only "take" when providing "just compensation" for what they've taken.


Who decides what constitutes "just compensation?" The government!


Homeowners who felt the government was not paying them enough for property in past "takings" have filed lawsuits. In absolutely every such case, the value placed upon the property by the government was upheld by the courts.


Our federal government has now granted to China, this power to "take"our homes and businesses in the event the US Gov't defaults on its debts. Let's play this out as a worst case scenario. . . . . .


The US Gov't goes belly-up and China comes in and says, "they owed us $2 Trillion in Treasury Notes and another $2 Trillion in actual cash money which is now worthless. We are taking the entire state of Hawaii and the entire state of California in lieu of this bad debt. "


With the stroke of a Chinese chop stick, Hawaii and California -- all the land and buildings in those states -- are now owned by China.


The "taking" would be a "valid public use" because it was "taken" in payment of the public debt!!!!


China could then turn around and declare the value of all that land to be worth. . . . . I dunno, ten cents on a dollar?


For your $200,000 house, you get a Chinese check for $20,000.


Needless to say, the property owners would go ballistic and demand "just compensation" for what was taken. Who gets to decide what is "just?" China! Don't think you got a fair price for what they took? No problem, sue China.


You'll lose.


People who live in those states and own their land outright, might be able to negotiate with China to "rent" back their own property, as long as the property owner continued to pay all his taxes; but the land and buildings would belong to China!


This is what our own Government has just done to us and it is the single most vile act of betrayal in the history of human existence.


------------- SECOND UPDATE 3:48 PM


In early February nine U.S. States began the process of re-asserting their Sovereignty pursuant to the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the US Constitution; declaring null and void any actions by Congress that violated the Constitution.


At the time, I wrote about those state efforts (Here) and wondered why so many states were taking-up such an arcane issue in such a seemingly urgent fashion. I guess now, we know why.


The states were obviously privy to what the feds were planning to do with granting Eminent Domain to China. The states took action to make certain the feds couldn't give away cities or the states themselves!


This situation is going to get VERY ugly, VERY fast as one sovereign power (the feds) try to literally give away the land of other sovereign powers, (the states). This is the type of thing that starts Civil War.


Our present federal government makes the treachery and betrayal of Benedict Arnold look like child's play.

Posted by HalTurnerShow.com at 2/26/2009 12:54:00 PM

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Re: We've Been Sold Down The River!
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2009, 02:42:29 PM »
I don't believe that site is reputable. Click the "about fourwinds" button and read a few lines and you will see.
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Re: We've Been Sold Down The River!
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2009, 01:50:28 AM »
Though not a conspiracy theorist by nature, I would not put ANYTHING past our government. That his could happen seems QUITE POSSIBLE. After all, when you acquire a loan from a bank and have no "down payment" do you not have to put up COLLATERIAL? Of course you do.
Now, if someone were to put up MY HOUSE for collaterial without my permission, then before the deal went thru, and ownership was transfered, a clean up of chinese garbage in my yard might have to take place. At least what was left of my yard.
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Re: We've Been Sold Down The River!
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2009, 04:47:46 AM »
The collateral for US bonds is the taxpayer. In other words, as long as the American people are living, breathing, and earning an income, the government will take it from them to pay bond interest on what they have borrowed in our name.
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2009, 05:20:07 AM »
It would seem that high treason has been committed then would it not? A borrowed amount that "we the people" have protested against LOUDLY for the past several months.
Our wealth, or what is left if any, has been squandered, and now the borrowing has begun in a frenzy fashion to cover their tracks.
They are counting on dying of old age before their treason has been discovered.
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Re: We've Been Sold Down The River!
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2009, 06:01:52 AM »
I've been saying for years that we are soon to be nothing more than 'share croppers', or worse in our own country.  Our government 'leaders' do the bidding of the power elites. Their interests don't coincide with that of the American middle class.  I don't know if the phrase "sold down the river" was intentional, but it is very apt. If you read the book "The Tragedy of Pudd'Nhead Wilson" by Mark Twain you will see the explanation of that phrase. To those who are not familiar, it means selling a slave to a new owner who was located 'down river' on the Mississippi, usually meaning harder work and a more grueling life. This fact was usually kept from the slave until they were 'on their way'.  As to what Hillary has actually done, I don't know. I know I wouldn't trust her with anything of value, and she'd cheat an old man out of his money if given a chance. Most people forget what the Whitewater scandal was originally about, and how it was skillfully transformed into a sex scandal. The sexual 'red herring' got a lot more air time than cheating retirees out of their retirement homesteads.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2009, 11:35:06 AM »
Hey hey Dee. I think you've got it. I am waiting on the taxpayer revolt myself, and will be at the head of the line. The only thing I can't figure out is how to have a revolt when they confiscate your wealth before you get the check.  ???

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Re: We've Been Sold Down The River!
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2009, 12:06:09 PM »
Whats new clinton gave the U.N. control of the smokie mt park years ago used to be signs at the entrances telling you that don't know if they are still there I thought that was a violation of solvernty but i must have been wrong and somehow i missed all the press and news coverage of the change of ownership.
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Re: We've Been Sold Down The River!
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2009, 05:18:19 PM »
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Re: We've Been Sold Down The River!
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2009, 01:38:47 AM »
Quote from: TM7 on March 02, 2009, 01:30:53 AM
Comrade Chi Hoatian's speech has been out and around for a while. It amounts to a "Chosenist Manifesto".... chinese style; and like other chosenist manifestos is pure devil. It is a shocking read.

Since the Chinese now supply most of the useless and useful crap America loves, basically hold the debt instruments, are buying banks, maybe have the emminent domain game sewed up, control the import-export and ports business, dominating heavy industry, close to controlling major world energy supplies, have a client roque nation ready to go, behind the superhighway, have been sold top secret weapons designs, occupy every college and university in America, etc.....they have essentially won the war. All that is necessary is to occupy the territory!! This is belayed by the fact that every little town and city now have Chinese restaurants.... ::)

So,,,yes...moral and political and financial and philosophical treason has occurred over and over as Dr. Ott points out.  This is due to the Oligarchy running things seeing the USA as expendable in the end.

...TM7


 

Let us give credit, (no pun intended) where credit is due. I suspect TM7, that everything you said on this post is TRUE, TRUE, TRUE. The resturant thing? Maybe not.
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Re: We've Been Sold Down The River!
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2009, 05:11:59 AM »
revolt , don't buy anything for 1 week . if everyone did this it would have an effect ! how much fed fuel tax would be lost ? No one work for a week , no fed with holdings for a week on hourly workers + no products for a week .
Don't worry it would never happen
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