Author Topic: Would you trust a Burris 2-7 to a T/C duo mount on a T/C 14 inch 45/70  (Read 986 times)

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Offline tallpaul

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I have a T/C 14 inch 45/70 with a muzzle tamer. I have the T/C duomount - the one that has the solid base with the bottoms of the rings machined already. Its not very far between the rings and I am wondering if the scope will bend because of the recoil or just slip foward if there is a problem. I only shot this barrel years back when I got the gun WITHOUT any sights. Surprisingly milk jugs at thirty yards was not that hard. I bought the Burris 2-7 to mount on it for deer hunting and set it up but never did go shoot it. Now I am wondering if I need to take it off and just get a different mount or maybe even just pop a red dot on it.

I could put the 2-7 on the 357 barrel I am gonna ream to the max round for mey Ohio deer gun.
I'd like ta shoot the 45/70 with the Burris but don't need ta be stupid about it :D

A dot would likely work on the 45/70 if I need to try a deer with it.
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Opinions will vary... mine is I wouldn't be caught dead with a TC Duo-Mount on any of my barrels.   The one piece system is a compromise (noun), and that says it all.

At least the older model Burris 2-7 (#200293) when properly mounted can be trusted on the heavier recoiling TC's in my experience.   I have a couple of them that I've had for many, many years that have both done duty on my handcannons without any problems (375JDJ's, 416 Rigby, etc).   I don't know about the newer model 2-7's (I sure am not impressed with their new model 4-12 compact when compared to the older version though).   By properly mounted, on a heavy recoiler I mean using a quality 3 or 4 ring system with the rings 100% lapped (and depending on which system ideally the base one that incorporates a recoil stop screw).

Just from my experience... YMMV.

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Ladobe- thanks for the reply! That is kinda what I started thinking. I know the 45/70 is a cannon out of the contender just makin sure its not overkill. I'll save up and het it fixed up right.

I was lookin at that duomount and started thinkin it wasn't the best set up.
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I have one on mine...with Duo mount...no problen so far on 100 shots..D-451

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I only like the duo-mount on octagon barrels, but the only reason I even have them is I started out with Weaver bases and didn't like the way the Weavers "hung" over the octagon part of the barrel.  Now my favorite mount is a Leupold dual dovetail base with Burris Signature Rings.  I must confess though, I've never shot a 45-70 from a Contender pistol.  I would think my 44 Mag 10" octagon barrel with full house loads is about as hard on a scope as anything and my "less than premium" scopes held up fine in the duo-mount.  No slipping and they held zero.

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I agree with Ladobe. Mine wears a 6-screw base and 4 Leupold split rings. I have not used the Duo-Mount because I don't like the spacing of the rings. On guns with heavy recoil, the extra rings are cheap insurance against tube flexing.
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T/C Duo-Rings look nice and are a slick way of mounting a scope on T/C guns with low recoil but I predict that if you try to use it with a 45-70 barrel the mount will either loosen from the barrel and/or the scope will slip in the rings.  After having learned the hard way, for heavy recoiling handguns, I now use SSK Industries' T'SOB 6 screw 4 ring scope mount which will stand up to about anything.

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I'm with Curtis,  I have a couple of old octagon barrels with small(2X-4X fixed power)scopes mounted in the Duo-ring set up.  Makes for one good looking rig, but elsewhere I find no use for them.  The two barrels are .218Bee and .256Win so we're not talking a lot of recoil at all.
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FWIW, I dont like the duo ring setup either. However Burris' are the only ones I havent broken on cannons. I have 3 2-7's (old) 2 3-9's and havent had a lick of trouble yet. Shot on 375 JDJ, 45-70, 309 JDJ, 444 Marlin all with redfield  3 ring base base and just 2 rings.

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In a word, NO.

I'd not trust the duo-ring period I just don't care for the little bugger.

Now the Burris I do pretty much trust as those I've owned have for the most part been good solid scopes. Burris has a definite problem with loose trash in them, floaters if you will, that move around and at times can get in the just the right place to be wrong. This has been common in many Burris scopes I've owned. I've never seen it in any other brand.

But the Burris is a big and heavy scope and mated up with a small weak mount on a heavy kicker I'd not trust the combination but then that's me.


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Re: Would you trust a Burris 2-7 to a T/C duo mount on a T/C 14 inch 45/70
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2009, 01:03:43 PM »
I used a Duo-mount on a 6.5 JDJ and never had any trouble with a Burris scope. However I have read and now talked to a gentleman who says that the problem with the Duo mount is that the screws need to be longer to grab more threads in the barrel. If you look at the bottom of the mount the screws only protrude out about 2 threads or so. I realize a 6.5 is not a 45-70 but after learning from reading and talking I don't think I would use one on a 45-70. As far as a Burris scope goes I live were they are made. I have always liked there product and have owned several. I have one at there shop right now which happens to be a 2x7 pistol scope that was on a 30-30 barrel. I was out shooting this last weekend and something came apart in side the scope. First trouble I have ever had. I took it to the factory this last monday and they are going to fix it but it will be 5 weeks before I get it back. At least it will be fixed though. Sure is nice to have a life time warranty..........Al
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Re: Would you trust a Burris 2-7 to a T/C duo mount on a T/C 14 inch 45/70
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2009, 02:50:50 AM »
burris 2X7 with reticle lock want work on duo ring.  reticle lock sticks out and hits on duo ring and not on weaver base.