Swordfish,
I noticed you did not offer any recommendations or specific critics of any of the recommendations I made. In addition, members here with Masters Licenses have validated my recommendations and suggestions in this thread. The data, straight from the Florida department of safety, that is tasked with investigating these incidents completely supports what I have written. You obviously are not reading everything or the links. All this points straight to your ignorance, not mine.
In your eyes, I may only know the size of the average horse turd, but that appears to be significantly more that you. Anyone who would conclude that what these 4 morons did, was nothing less than irresponsible, stupid, uneducated AND, AVOIDABLE, shows that you’re in the same boat as them.
Enjoy the ride with the other clowns.
I'd prefer to take a ride with these clowns than sail with you in your ship of fools.
Like I said stick to what you know, not just what you've read.
You have no actual experience in offshore fishing or what it takes. I don't even know why I'm giving you the time of day, but your ignorance offends me as a fisherman and Capt. The only ones on the water, that carry all the safety gear you are spewing from your readings, are the Coast Guard vessels, and that's only because they can afford it with our tax dollars. The rest of us get the safety equipment the law requires, and as much of whatever as we can afford.
Every time we leave the inlet it's a risk. Every time we get in a car it's a risk. Both could end in a horrible death. Every time you get on your horse it's a risk. Yes, things could have been done differently, but they weren't, no need to get on your high horse and disrespect them. You are not doing any good with this.
If your point is safety, we get it. Move on.
Swordfish,
How in the heck would you know if I have off shore experience or not? You don't know anything about me. So you’re up to speed: Fact, I was born and raised on the south shore of Long Island (that’s the side facing the Atlantic) in the town of Babylon. I grew up fishing on the bays & inlets between Fire Island and Captree Boat Basin. I have been out on the Atlantic from there and Montauk Point more times then you care to understand, fishing for fluke, flounder, blues, Porgies, cod, etc both with the boat that my family owned, commercial and on pay as you go recreational vessels.
I have worked crab traps on the inlets, bays & ocean from boat and shore and worked for a small privately owned fresh seafood distributor where I operated a one and at times a 2 man clam boat operation between Jones Beach out to the Bell Port area. I also worked for a short period out of Montauk on a small commercial boat shortly after high school. For a couple of summers I worked on an island marina just east of Captree Island servicing the small commercial fleet in that area and recreational boaters. So face it, you don’t know a damn thing about me and if you could read, you would see indications of this in an earlier post. So again, you’re not reading or checking the links.
For you to say that the only vessels that carry life saving equipment are Coast Guard ships shows that you have no earthly understanding of what responsible boaters do or the available life saving equipment . Viking is a well know company that makes life saving eqplement for boaters of all size including the recreational market. Look it up for yourself, they have been around for over 50 years. Just because you don’t know a damn thing does not mean you should spread lies about the gear that is available and is often purchased by responsible boaters. You know, those are the ones that take the time to make sure they don’t put themselves their family & passengers lives at unnecessary risk.
But look, here’s the only questions you should answer if you have any desire to actually tell the truth:
1. Given the current conditions & forecasted conditions (sea & weather) would you have taken that 21 foot boat 62 miles off shore without the recommended safety gear?
2. Given the fact that an automatic beacon would cost you $250 and a handheld radio for $300 would you buy them or not?
3. Would you spend the money for the inflatable and other devises knowing that you may only survive for 60 minutes in the ocean using a life vest?
Do some simple analysis. You are 62 miles off shore with NO WAY to communicate to shore for assistance. You’re in the ocean in your life vest. Within 30 minutes hypothermia will set in. Are you going to tell us, that you’re not going to invest under $2000 to save your life, your family and the life of your passengers?? If you have 1 single point of failure, your all most likely dead. There’s no margin for error. In your case, for the sake of “you know it all” everyone’s dead! Congratulations to the all knowing Swordfish!
Your worse than the captain of the Titanic Swordfish. At least he was under the strong impression that the Titanic could not/would not sink based on the information of the designers. Like I said Swordfish , you’re in the boat with the other reckless morons. People like you and some of your other friends here really make me ill. You’re so complelled to throw your worthless & unwarranted comments even when it means people lives are at stake. It’s people with your mindset that fornicate it all up for those of us that care to educate ourselves.
Who knows. Maybe it’s really all for the best. Smart people will take the time and take reasonable measures. Stupid people wont and they will die. It does help clean up the gene pool and for that I thank you.
