3 lost at sea off the coast of Florida, 1 survives..

[45-70.gov]

only 27 min. to reply, you really don't have a life. Get up outa that chair, go to the front door and have a look out there, that's where you will find a life.
Cabinboy, there is nothing that anyone can tell you, you know it all. You are the best you can be. Sad isn't it, when you think about it.

sword fish  you sound  like my ex-wife

she  always  told me  i knew  it  all  too......as  if that were  a bad thing

but  you are  all  off  topic.....why  don't  we  just start a fight tread?

[Cabin4]

I like the idea of a fight thread but unfortunately it would lack the preferred personal touch! 

[WolfTrap]

I like the idea of a fight thread but unfortunately it would lack the preferred personal touch! 

C4,
Could you please answer this question honestly?
If they (NFL Players) were Blond Blue Eyed Good Old Boy Quarter Backs, would you be as heartless to their lives and the lives of their families?
Cause I have to tell you.......you're in need of a Minister of your Faith to help you out!
Earlier I had asked a honest question about what are the rules of boating and you edit out my post?
Does Nazi Administrator come to mind, since this topic is yours and have CONTROL over who get to respond?
Why am I so upset about your topic?
Since I'm stuck to  "Your replies" link, this BS keeps coming up as I log in to GBO.
C4.........now there's a big fat hint!
There was a Nut Case with that handle at Tom Metzgear Aryan Nation who advocated blowing up homes owned by  people of color, Zionist and left wing activist? His writing abilities was, in my humble view....great! Just like yours! He been gone from most of the Gun...Bikes...Political sites for some (3years) time now? But I have to believe you're the same Cabin4/C4? Your writing style is one big BUST! If not....well, I can't help it that I associated the two handles as I read through your cant?
Gentlemen, what breaks my heart is every fun site I participate in...there's a handful of distraught/distressed folks who make it very scary for those who just want to have fun by exchanging ideas and the love of their hobbies?
C4....please lock your topic, it's getting very disheartening
WT 

[swordfish]

I like the idea of a fight thread but unfortunately it would lack the preferred personal touch! 

C4,
There was a Nut Case with that handle at Tom Metzgear Aryan Nation who advocated blowing up homes owned by  people of color, Zionist and left wing activist? His writing abilities was, in my humble view....great! Just like yours! He been gone from most of the Gun...Bikes...Political sites for some (3years) time now? But I have to believe you're the same Cabin4/C4? Your writing style is one big BUST! If not....well, I can't help it that I associated the two handles as I read through your cant? 

That explains it.

If you actually do have any knowledge, why would you have kept it a secret all along?

Again, "I gave you no details on my experience because I don't respect you, and you are not worthy of a real conversation on the subject, and I have been just sticking to calling out your poor character to all because you finally said more than I could take. My posts aren't really about the subject of boating safety, it's obvious that one can find a wealth of knowledge on-line for that topic, my posts are about you as a person of limited stature and poor moral judgement."

[DalesCarpentry]

I like the idea of a fight thread but unfortunately it would lack the preferred personal touch! 

C4,
Could you please answer this question honestly?
If they (NFL Players) were Blond Blue Eyed Good Old Boy Quarter Backs, would you be as heartless to their lives and the lives of their families?
Cause I have to tell you.......you're in need of a Minister of your Faith to help you out!
Earlier I had asked a honest question about what are the rules of boating and you edit out my post?
Does Nazi Administrator come to mind, since this topic is yours and have CONTROL over who get to respond?
Why am I so upset about your topic?
Since I'm stuck to  "Your replies" link, this BS keeps coming up as I log in to GBO.
C4.........now there's a big fat hint!
There was a Nut Case with that handle at Tom Metzgear Aryan Nation who advocated blowing up homes owned by  people of color, Zionist and left wing activist? His writing abilities was, in my humble view....great! Just like yours! He been gone from most of the Gun...Bikes...Political sites for some (3years) time now? But I have to believe you're the same Cabin4/C4? Your writing style is one big BUST! If not....well, I can't help it that I associated the two handles as I read through your cant?
Gentlemen, what breaks my heart is every fun site I participate in...there's a handful of distraught/distressed folks who make it very scary for those who just want to have fun by exchanging ideas and the love of their hobbies?
C4....please lock your topic, it's getting very disheartening
WT 

I understand you are new around here. C4 has no moderator powers at all. He can not lock this topic of modify your posts even if he wanted to. Dale

[myronman3]

Then again on post 84 this person posting with your ID agreed with Myronman who professed no need to take precautions

  you need to post where it was that was said by me.   

  everyone here needs to check their behavoir. 

[Cabin4]

I like the idea of a fight thread but unfortunately it would lack the preferred personal touch! 

C4,
Could you please answer this question honestly?
If they (NFL Players) were Blond Blue Eyed Good Old Boy Quarter Backs, would you be as heartless to their lives and the lives of their families?
Cause I have to tell you.......you're in need of a Minister of your Faith to help you out!
Earlier I had asked a honest question about what are the rules of boating and you edit out my post?
Does Nazi Administrator come to mind, since this topic is yours and have CONTROL over who get to respond?
Why am I so upset about your topic?
Since I'm stuck to  "Your replies" link, this BS keeps coming up as I log in to GBO.
C4.........now there's a big fat hint!
There was a Nut Case with that handle at Tom Metzgear Aryan Nation who advocated blowing up homes owned by  people of color, Zionist and left wing activist? His writing abilities was, in my humble view....great! Just like yours! He been gone from most of the Gun...Bikes...Political sites for some (3years) time now? But I have to believe you're the same Cabin4/C4? Your writing style is one big BUST! If not....well, I can't help it that I associated the two handles as I read through your cant?
Gentlemen, what breaks my heart is every fun site I participate in...there's a handful of distraught/distressed folks who make it very scary for those who just want to have fun by exchanging ideas and the love of their hobbies?
C4....please lock your topic, it's getting very disheartening
WT 

Wolftrap,

I think you’re confused. I am not an administrator here and have no ability to edit or delete your posts. So this is just not accurate of you to accuse me of editing your posts.

No I am not this other C4 (Tom Metzgear of the Aryan Nation). If you look at my profile you will see that I have been registered here as Cabin4 since March of 2003. That should be a clue! Now you can see what this has done. The immature Blowfish is starting to spread this around in another thread because he has no idea how to post anything constructive or technical on this topic. He’s just here to start trouble and this has fueled his desire to continue writing personal attacks because he really knows nothing about off-shore boating. If he did, he would have posted something constructive on the any one of the prior 8 pages of this thread.

And yes, I would have been just as hard on the 4 boaters if they were “blond hair blue eyed good ol boys” as you put it. If I'm not mistaken, the race of the 4 were 2 black and 2 white. In any case this is irrelevant. What they did was irresponsible and avoidable. This should be the lesson. Not being PC. I don't care about being PC. That’s for the weak and mushy crowd. Plenty of them have shown up here to defend ignorance and stupidity.

No one’s stopping you from having your fun. I’m not finding it very fun for you to insinuate that I’m really Tom Metzgear of the Aryan Nation or that I’m editing your post or that I’m only focusing on this because 2 of the 4 were black. Nothing like playing the race card even if it can’t apply!

If you don't want to read something, I don't think there is anyone forcing you to read this high jacked thread. Thanks to a few children that like to hang around here and cause trouble.

I would not get to worried. There is plenty of good reading around GBO. Unfortunately this thread is no longer one of them.

[Cabin4]

Then again on post 84 this person posting with your ID agreed with Myronman who professed no need to take precautions

  you need to post where it was that was said by me.   

  everyone here needs to check their behavoir. 

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Quote from: myronman3 on March 12, 2009, 02:08:19 PM
i am a pretty smart guy. i am adaptable, aware, and i'm experienced.   i have done alot of things most can only dream about.  still,  i am here today by the grace of God alone.   
   kid yourselves all you want, i am willing to bet that everyone here has been close to disaster in one form or another,  because of a decision they had made.  i think some just dont want to admit it.  life(and death) happen fast. 



Right on the money Myron.



Spanky
 
 


Myronman,

Post 84, read it and weap.

C4

[SHOOTALL]

where does it say no need to take precautions ? Sounds like he was lucky to have lived thru. some bad experinces . Who knows they very well could have been unexpected results of decisions not desired results ?

It is always best to make your point with your own words and not twisting others words to suit your claim .

[WolfTrap]

I like the idea of a fight thread but unfortunately it would lack the preferred personal touch! 

C4,
Could you please answer this question honestly?
If they (NFL Players) were Blond Blue Eyed Good Old Boy Quarter Backs, would you be as heartless to their lives and the lives of their families?
Cause I have to tell you.......you're in need of a Minister of your Faith to help you out!
Earlier I had asked a honest question about what are the rules of boating and you edit out my post?
Does Nazi Administrator come to mind, since this topic is yours and have CONTROL over who get to respond?
Why am I so upset about your topic?
Since I'm stuck to  "Your replies" link, this BS keeps coming up as I log in to GBO.
C4.........now there's a big fat hint!
There was a Nut Case with that handle at Tom Metzgear Aryan Nation who advocated blowing up homes owned by  people of color, Zionist and left wing activist? His writing abilities was, in my humble view....great! Just like yours! He been gone from most of the Gun...Bikes...Political sites for some (3years) time now? But I have to believe you're the same Cabin4/C4? Your writing style is one big BUST! If not....well, I can't help it that I associated the two handles as I read through your cant?
Gentlemen, what breaks my heart is every fun site I participate in...there's a handful of distraught/distressed folks who make it very scary for those who just want to have fun by exchanging ideas and the love of their hobbies?
C4....please lock your topic, it's getting very disheartening
WT 

I understand you are new around here. C4 has no moderator powers at all. He can not lock this topic of modify your posts even if he wanted to. Dale

Dale,
Maybe I'm so fixed on what has snowballed here....that I just plain miss my post? That aside, still bummed out on what's going on here!
If you notice, most of my post on GBO is gun related. I enjoy all shooting sports and the comradeship among folks whom have for years exchange ideas and adventurous stories. Through this gun site and others, I've sent money to complete strangers without a hitch! Wife still cracks up that I'm too trusting!
I've associated my membership to GBO on the belief that we are of the same mind and it isn't a Aryan Nation Front where I was once a duped member. The site is gone now! Now most of it members have gone to other sites banging out so called innocent articles that "Flames" the sites you and I participate in!
Dale, I don't ask much other than keep the peace....that's it!
WT 

[Cabin4]

where does it say no need to take precautions ? Sounds like he was lucky to have lived thru. some bad experinces . Who knows they very well could have been unexpected results of decisions not desired results ?

It is always best to make your point with your own words and not twisting others words to suit your claim .

Shootall,

No twisting of words. This was Myronmans repsonse to me talking about taking precauctions and understanding what your getting into before you leap. He's on the record here in other posts on this thread prior stating "live & let live" when it came to discussing preventative actions.

[Cabin4]

I like the idea of a fight thread but unfortunately it would lack the preferred personal touch! 

C4,
Could you please answer this question honestly?
If they (NFL Players) were Blond Blue Eyed Good Old Boy Quarter Backs, would you be as heartless to their lives and the lives of their families?
Cause I have to tell you.......you're in need of a Minister of your Faith to help you out!
Earlier I had asked a honest question about what are the rules of boating and you edit out my post?
Does Nazi Administrator come to mind, since this topic is yours and have CONTROL over who get to respond?
Why am I so upset about your topic?
Since I'm stuck to  "Your replies" link, this BS keeps coming up as I log in to GBO.
C4.........now there's a big fat hint!
There was a Nut Case with that handle at Tom Metzgear Aryan Nation who advocated blowing up homes owned by  people of color, Zionist and left wing activist? His writing abilities was, in my humble view....great! Just like yours! He been gone from most of the Gun...Bikes...Political sites for some (3years) time now? But I have to believe you're the same Cabin4/C4? Your writing style is one big BUST! If not....well, I can't help it that I associated the two handles as I read through your cant?
Gentlemen, what breaks my heart is every fun site I participate in...there's a handful of distraught/distressed folks who make it very scary for those who just want to have fun by exchanging ideas and the love of their hobbies?
C4....please lock your topic, it's getting very disheartening
WT 

I understand you are new around here. C4 has no moderator powers at all. He can not lock this topic of modify your posts even if he wanted to. Dale

Dale,
Maybe I'm so fixed on what has snowballed here....that I just plain miss my post? That aside, still bummed out on what's going on here!
If you notice, most of my post on GBO is gun related. I enjoy all shooting sports and the comradeship among folks whom have for years exchange ideas and adventurous stories. Through this gun site and others, I've sent money to complete strangers without a hitch! Wife still cracks up that I'm too trusting!
I've associated my membership to GBO on the belief that we are of the same mind and it isn't a Aryan Nation Front where I was once a duped member. The site is gone now! Now most of it members have gone to other sites banging out so called innocent articles that "Flames" the sites you and I participate in!
Dale, I don't ask much other than keep the peace....that's it!
WT 

Then why are you pouring gasoline on this Wolftrap? Your the one accusing me of ACTUALLY being the real Tom Metzgear AKA C4 of the Aryan Nation. And you accused me of ACTUALLY editing your posts! Both these are false accusations. I don't see any appology??

Give me a break. You are the flame! No one is forcing you to read or respond to this.

Don't get caught in the trap..Wolftrap.

[John R.]

I can't believe this thread is still going.

[SHOOTALL]

sounded more like STUFF happens and we luck out more that we throw safety to the wind

[DalesCarpentry]

C4. You keep refering to a guy named Blowfish. I can't find anyone on this thread by that name. If you are refering to swordfish and making a play on his name I get it. You should know though that some time back Matt said making fun of peoples names is enough to get kicked off the site. Just a heads up for you. Dale

[myronman3]

where does it say no need to take precautions ? Sounds like he was lucky to have lived thru. some bad experinces . Who knows they very well could have been unexpected results of decisions not desired results ?

It is always best to make your point with your own words and not twisting others words to suit your claim .

i dont know that it could be said better than that.  i dont see anywhere that i said anything that resembles what c4 claims i said.   misrepresenting things is the same exact thing as bold face lying.   and coming from someone so quick to accuse others of lying, it should be a surprise.  sadly it isnt.     
   

[Cabin4]

C4. You keep refering to a guy named Blowfish. I can't find anyone on this thread by that name. If you are refering to swordfish and making a play on his name I get it. You should know though that some time back Matt said making fun of peoples names is enough to get kicked off the site. Just a heads up for you. Dale

Dale,
Yes I am referring to swordfish aka Blowfish. He and the rest of his friends started the downslide with the name calling. I have been called just about everything here from plays on my handle, Tom Metzgear of the Aryan Nation and other various garden variety of interesting, but less than complimentary names. None of which really bothers me much. But that’s what happens with these threads. Folks that don't know what they are talking about, they have zero practical experience on a subject, and because they can't add any real value, they just take issue with the writer. They claim to cling to some other peripheral issue that is not germane to the subject matter. They claim to stand on principle of that, which is not germane to the subject! They are the high jackers here. They have held this thread hostage to there so called principle of “make nice-nice”. There is a good reason. They have no experience on the real subject here and are incapable of adding any real constructive information

C4 (not Tom Metzgear)

[Cabin4]

you just keep looking down on and spitting on a deadman/men.   call it "advocating taking precautions" all you want.  i am not the only one here who is seeing you for what you are.  

 also, if you could keep on with the cheap shots and jabs, i would appreciate it as well.  it would be nice though if you could use a little wit, though.  but judging by your spelling, maybe i am asking too much.

Are you going to deny these quotes as well Myronman?

Reply #179 on: March 20, 2009, 10:13:01 AM »    Quote

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“ call it "advocating taking precautions" all you want.   


« Reply #98 on: March 13, 2009, 02:49:22 PM »    Quote

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“ i think a person has to live and if you never did anything that involved risk, you would waste your life.”


Reply #145 on: March 18, 2009, 08:36:04 AM »    Quote

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“the thing about life is, no matter who you are, or how smart you think you are, it can still bite you in the tail out of no where. 
   have fun..”


The point is Myronman, you have nothing to add here on the subject except, criticism. There is good reason, it’s not your fault, you simply have no experience in off-shore work.

Take the long leash and run.

[SHOOTALL]

This is all fantastic !

[myronman3]

what a word twister you are.   you desperately need to take a walk.   
   
 

[pastorp]

Fellas, there is a defference in discussion about a point of view and personal assualts on one another. In my opinion this thread is now in violation of GBO rules. Of course I'm not a moderator so as a fellow member I think we all should respect Bills rules and just drop this line of discussion.

Most of you probably saw Bills thread about his needing a stress test and work-up. Thats the only explination I can think of for this being allowed to continue. Name calling and personal attacks are not going to get your viewpoint across. So lets go by the rules volintarely before someone gets in trouble.

Respectly submitted,

[DalesCarpentry]

I stated a week ago it needed locked then. It still does. Dale

[Cabin4]

I may be from Kalifruitia but you are from the town of Fruitwood Wisconsin. The town that claims to be the Blue Gill capitol OF THE...WORLD! I'm not sure this is something I would brag about. Blue Gill are.... children’s catch.

I'm not sure which is worse now. The temporary home for Cabin4 or the permanent home of the Myronman...... Cabin fever can challenge people's senses and their sensibility. I have lived in the hinterland and it-- is not for the weak. And no, Myronman, you do not need a passport to go to Rice Lake.
 
 
Have a laugh, you have earned it.

[SHOOTALL]

childrens catch . may be , but fine dinning .

[45-70.gov]

Someone please lock this thread.

Why lock it now...Mirage wants to pick it up in the morning when his thoughts are fresh and sharp.
  Then again, maybe it should be locked.

I agree 100%!!!!!!!!!!! Please lock it. Enough has been said here. Dale

what  is the purpose  of  locking  it???

know  one  is here  that doesn't choose to be


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and  those posted  below had  the freedon and chose  to return....lol

I BROUGHT THIS QUOTE FROM WAY  BACH  HERE

it is good that freedom of speach  is alive  and well
and  that all  of you continue  to  return  to the fray   you  are very intertaining

and  you must like it here  too


CABINBOY  this  is  YOUR  thread
will  you rename  it  to ''the official  fight  thread''

[rex6666]

Disasters occur every day, how did this one get singled out for 9 pages
of B.S.  This is way out of hand, what difference does mine or your opinion
on the facts make. People got caught in a storm and drowned it happens
many times every year. Now we have a fight about if we have a right to talk about it or not. How about everyone just pickup your own marbles and go home and this will end.

[quickdtoo]

Before someone gets banned! 

Tim