Author Topic: 22lr NEF rifle coming soon, what scope to get? updated.... (Read 3981 times)

Night Watchman · « **on:** March 07, 2009, 10:41:08 AM »

I was wondering what you guys or gals thought about a scope for this rifle. I would like to keep the cost about $100 or less. This will mainly be used for paper punching. I would like something with variable magnification. Please ones that you have used or had expierances with. thanks and nice forum yalll got here

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** March 07, 2009, 11:02:43 AM »

Welcome! On the high end at $115 shipped, the Mueller APV is a great scope for rimfires, excellent glass, lots of happy owners here and at Rimfire Central.

Tim

http://www.mizzoumuleguns.com/id12.html

http://www.eabco.com/MuellerAPV.htm

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/board,54.0.html

cwlongshot · « **Reply #2 on:** March 07, 2009, 05:31:42 PM »

I used to always put on cheaper scopes on my rim-fires. Then I lucked into a couple RIMFIRE Leupold's at really good prices. I still like the idea of a cheaper scope on a rimfires. One thing I feel is a must have on a rimfire scope is an adj parallax objective. Unless of coarse the scope your buying is RIMFIRE specific.
Like I said earlier, I do not have any experience with these Mueller optics. But they do look very good and many people here like them!! TRY ONE and report back how well it works for you!!

I have book marked Tim's links and will be getting one next time I need a rimfire scope!!

CW

Night Watchman · « **Reply #3 on:** March 09, 2009, 02:55:17 PM »

That Mueller does look pretty good. I might try it when funds allow. I have a simmon 3x9x50 on hand that I plan to use until I can save up for something better. Any other ideas?

Slowhanddd · « **Reply #4 on:** March 09, 2009, 03:03:06 PM »

For the money,go with the Mueller APV.Have had four of them and still have two of them.Sold the others with the 10-22's I built up.Great scopes for the money.Repeatable settings and just plain fantastic,clear glass.I also have one of the tactical 8-24,'s on my 17M2 Sportster.Slow

SM Bob · « **Reply #5 on:** March 09, 2009, 07:17:56 PM »

Another vote for the Mueller APV. I have 4 of them on different rifles and they all work great!
I agree with C.W. about having the adjustable objective on a rimfire. It's a good way to go.

Robert

trotterlg · « **Reply #6 on:** March 09, 2009, 07:36:17 PM »

I think if you are not wanting to go first class then go cheap. I have three Barsaka scopes, they are all clear, the eye bell configuration fits the Handi perfectly for hammer clearance and they are cheap. Mine all hold zero perfectly, only problem I have had is that, when adjusting them, one click up may be one up and a 1/2 left, so it may take a little more time to get it to zero, but after they are there they stay. Worth a look and if they don't work out just use them to pound nails or something. This is one on my .17 FB, it is a 4-12X40 AO Airgun scope cost me about $60.00 on line. Larry

PHATINJUN · « **Reply #7 on:** March 10, 2009, 06:06:59 AM »

Unless you can luck into a Leopold,Burris or even a nice Weaver used. The best highend I would put on a rimfire would be the Mueller APV I have 3 of them and love them but they are on 22 centerfires. My rimefires have BSA 2-7 and 3x12 sweet 17's on them 5 total 2 bought new and 3 of them bought from Natchez from the refurfished returns new one's if I remember right were about $75 and the refurbished which I have had no issues with were around $40. Even though I have
"grown up" and gotten rid of all the Simmons,Tasco's,Konaus and BSA scopes and gone to Leopold and Burris on all my centerfires I still feel the BSA is a very good set up for the Rimfires. Kurt

cwlongshot · « **Reply #8 on:** March 10, 2009, 07:06:38 AM »

Two years back a couple friends and I where fooling around with some Friday nite aft work 22 rifle shooting. Someone bought a 5 plate, resettable steel 22 plate rack. We would set it out at 50 yards and shoot at it off hand. 22 RF Rifle scoped, 5 shots only. Each guy would put up a buck to shoot 5 shots and who ever knocked down all five won the pool. It kept growing until someone did it, a buck every time you shot.
WELL, most of the guys had 4X or 3X9 cheapo scopes on there rifles. I was no different. But I decided to try a Simmons "Master Series" scope in 4X12 AO. I have to say, for a RF 17 or 22RF this is a very nice scope for the coin. I was impressed and started winning more and more once it was mounted!! Mostly because I had 12 power vs everyone else's 4 or 9X.

Like Kurt said, I wouldn't have it on a center-fire, although it would likely be just fine there too. But on the rimfire its darn nice!!

CW

Night Watchman · « **Reply #9 on:** March 10, 2009, 01:54:08 PM »

thanks guys, i pick up the rifle this friday and I'll post a range report. I will use the Simmons until I can afford a Mueller.........

Night Watchman · « **Reply #10 on:** March 18, 2009, 10:55:27 AM »

Well, the rifle itself functioned just fine and was fun to shoot. I did have a problem with the Simmons scope I tried to use. I got it hitting centered but 2 inchs low at 25 yards. The elevation adjustments were maxed out just to get that far. No matter what I did I could not get on the bullseye which was my point of aim. I guess I will have to wait to get a new scope sine the Simmons sucks

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #11 on:** March 18, 2009, 12:03:32 PM »

What about adding a scope shim to the front mount?
Un mount the scope. Add a shim to the lower half of the front mount and remount the scope.
When I mount a scope I threat all the screws and first fo around i turn every screw three turns in a pattern.
next go around each screw gets 2 turns, and from then on everything gets 1/4 turns.
Just some food for thought.

Night Watchman · « **Reply #12 on:** March 18, 2009, 12:56:33 PM »

Thanks for the idea on the shim. I might try that would a piece of an aluminum can work maybe?

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #13 on:** March 18, 2009, 01:14:40 PM »

Yep. I think a sheet of paper would work. Just make it/ them the same size as the mount. Or a layer of masking tape

Night Watchman · « **Reply #14 on:** March 18, 2009, 01:17:19 PM »

ok, I will try it next week and report back, thanks.

moose · « **Reply #15 on:** March 18, 2009, 02:53:37 PM »

Quote from: Night Watchman on March 18, 2009, 01:17:19 PM

ok, I will try it next week and report back, thanks.

try a shim out of a allum.coke can..........real thin material, and has the right bend already

quickdtoo · « **Reply #16 on:** March 18, 2009, 03:52:40 PM »

You need to raise the back of the scope to raise POI, not the front. Shim under the back of the base, not in the ring itself, otherwise you'll ruin the scope since the tube will be in a bind, shimming under the base will keep both ring bores in alignment. Or buy Burris Signature Zee rings and an offset insert kit, the best way to build in elevation.

Tim

SM Bob · « **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2009, 02:51:07 PM »

+1 on the Burris Zee Signature rings! I haven't tried the offset rings, but the standard ones
that I use are fantastic! I wouldn't hesitate to use the offset ones. They are great rings!

Robert

Night Watchman · « **Reply #18 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:09:17 AM »

Wish I had checked back sooner. I shimmed the front and it had no effect what so ever. I will try shimming the rear ring as described. If that us unsucessfull then I will assume the scope is screwed. I looked at a 4x32 Bushnell Banner scope at academy which seemed very nice for $70. Would it be possible for the actual weaver base to have gotten bent somehow?

db22 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 19, 2009, 05:11:13 AM »

My Versapack .22lr wears a cheap Bushnell 4x/1"tube scope in Burris Zee rings. I have a 3x9 Bushnell, same series, on my Savage Mk2 LH bolt action, in Weaver low rings. These recent-production Bushnells have stood up to lots of shooting and handling with no failures. Bushnell seems to have a good handle on quality control with their Oriental manufacturers these days.

If I had the cash for it, though, I'd use U.S.-made Leupolds. It's a shame we can't make a decent scope at an affordable price in this country, but that's just how it is now.

Night Watchman · « **Reply #20 on:** June 16, 2009, 11:01:12 AM »

Well, I thought I would post an update. I found a mueller APV about $20 below cost on rimfire central and bought it. I got some new weaver rings. I will see how it does tomorrow. That scope is long with the sunshade mounted

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old fossil · « **Reply #21 on:** August 30, 2009, 03:14:57 PM »

I have a new to me NEF Sportster. It shoots great groups at known distances. Any suggestions on how to cope with close shooting. IE scope a little higher than my other 22's. Have to remember to allow for higher line of sight.

cwlongshot · « **Reply #22 on:** August 30, 2009, 03:22:08 PM »

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I have a new to me NEF Sportster. It shoots great groups at known distances. Any suggestions on how to cope with close shooting. IE scope a little higher than my other 22's. Have to remember to allow for higher line of sight.

These are some of the inherent problems with mounting the scope high over the bore. You don't mention what the scope is or mounting system. there are a number of scopes that while are good performers are not handi friendly. IE Bushnell's Trophy line.

CW

old fossil · « **Reply #23 on:** August 30, 2009, 03:47:00 PM »

It is a Tasco 3-9x40. The power ring is not as large as a Bushnell Trophy, but it is still there. The rings are weaver high rings. It clears the hammer by about a 1/16. I probably will get a fixed power without the power ring. The one I have came with the gun. I have been really well pleased with the grouping. I have several fairly high dollar 22's that don't do much better. It is not finicky about the ammo either. I will just have to allow for the high mount until I get a fixed power scope.

BIGDAVE54 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 27, 2010, 09:26:34 AM »

I get a lot of flak,but I use a CENTERPOINT 4x16x40 on my Savage model 64 (22 LR) and my Savage model 93(.17 HMR). I get them at WalMart. The first one I paid $64 for and the one on the .17 HMR I got on sale for $58. I bought the rifle used for $100. It had a cracked stock on it. I ordered a new stock from Savage ($42),a new trigger group($15) and new studs and screws. It shoots better than any rifle I own. I don't need a spotting scope with the CPT scope. It is bright and the illuminated reticle shines in two colors (red and gree) when it starts to get dark.The scopes are nitrogen filled and can take a load of recoil. I know guys that have them on .308s and 30.06s with no problems. They are made by Crosman. Before you stop laughing I know of air rifles that are more powerful than my .22 or my .17 HMR. Hey they work good and they are inexspensive. They are not cheap though. They usually come with rings and covers. My first one had a foam scope cover,and they all come with a nifty little towel or cloth with the logo on them.

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 28, 2010, 03:42:34 AM »

I use a Leupold Rifleman 2X7X33 on my .22LR Sportster. It was more than the $100 that you want to spend but works very well on my setup. It was $179 from my local Wally World. I got the rings there also, Leupold medium rings. It just barely clears the hammer but it works well.

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 28, 2010, 03:47:39 AM »

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If I had the cash for it, though, I'd use U.S.-made Leupolds. It's a shame we can't make a decent scope at an affordable price in this country, but that's just how it is now.

I was just reading that Redfield scopes are made in USA and that you can get a new 2X7X33 for $130. Not sure of the quality and I've never examind one up close so I'm not sure how good they are. At least it's a somewhat affordable option for a made in USA scope.

Keith L · « **Reply #27 on:** January 28, 2010, 01:22:53 PM »

The scopes from China that cost $39.00 are not "a decent scope". Sad fact is that precision manufactured optics and good quality glass are expensive. If you go for the cheap in time you will regret it.

cwlongshot · « **Reply #28 on:** January 29, 2010, 12:10:03 AM »

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If I had the cash for it, though, I'd use U.S.-made Leupold's. It's a shame we can't make a decent scope at an affordable price in this country, but that's just how it is now.

I was just reading that Redfield scopes are made in USA and that you can get a new 2X7X33 for $130. Not sure of the quality and I've never examined one up close so I'm not sure how good they are. At least it's a somewhat affordable option for a made in USA scope.

I have a very nice old Redfield 3X that was given to me by my grandfather along with some others gun/hunting stuff when he passed last year. The Redfield has a broken front objective lenses. I finally got back some repair estimates... . . Just let me say I would have loved to have it repaired for sentimental reasons. (@ the price quoted it AINT GONNA HAPPEN!) I may just look into the new Leupold/Redfield as a replacement...

CW

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 29, 2010, 05:11:18 AM »

Since Leupold now owns Redfield I wonder if they will offer the same lifetime warranty? I couldn't find anything on the website about the warranty.