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Offline horseman308

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11-87 cycling problem
« on: March 08, 2009, 02:00:24 PM »
I've got an 11-87 Special Purpose, which is the normal one (not the 3 1/2" magnum), with a 26" barrel. Recently, I disassembled, cleaned and oiled it, and reassembled it according to the manual (which I done before without a problem). This time, when I fed some 3" turkey shells into the magazine and cycled it manually, it locked open about 75-80% of the time, as though on an empty magazine. In other words, it only seems to properly cycle a new shell from the magazine into the chamber and close the bolt about 20-25% of the time. The rest of the time, I have to manually close the bolt another shell by pressing the release button.

I also should mention that some of the grains of white buffer trickles out of several of my turkey shells. I know that these guns need to keep basically free of this type of stuff, but I wouldn't think a few grains in an otherwise clean and properly oiled action would stop it from cycling. I haven't had a chance to shoot it and see if it's any different, but I will soon. Does anyone have any thoughts about why it would be acting up like this? Is it possible that it doesn't cycle "normally" by hand (always operating the bolt by hand, like when you unload the magazine), but only with live-fire?
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Re: 11-87 cycling problem
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2009, 08:33:08 PM »
The carrier release (silver button) can be a big source of problems.  I had a chipped carrier dog, so, lacking the tools to change just the dog, I ordered the whole assembly for around $30 from a popular supplier of Remington parts.  Quality control of the stamped-out parts is so poor that you could actually see the difference between how the original and new carrier release matched the rest of the trigger group, and the new one didn't work right at all; it jammed just with manual operation (I didn't dare fire it).  I replaced the old carrier group, which works just fine, even with the minor chip in the dog.  To their credit, the supplier took the part back and gave me a refund, no problem.

Check the feed latch as well (strip of spring steel along the ejection port side of the receiver).  The very tip of it can break off, and it can look normal on casual examination through the loading port.  It's hard to explain, but there should be a narrow little tip to it that catches on the side of the magazine tube and keeps the latch from coming too far across the face of the waiting shell.  This will usually happen when you're on an expensive trip.  Twice.  I had been shooting 3" steel BB each time, mod choke.  Remington told me you shouldn't shoot bigger than #4 steel with a mod choke through the 11-87, or the back pressure could break things.  They ought to put that in the manual.

My 11-87 and I have killed so many critters, and had so many good times together, that it's my favorite.  However, if I'm going far from home, I take the Benelli...
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Re: 11-87 cycling problem
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2009, 06:35:56 AM »
My 11-87 and I have killed so many critters, and had so many good times together, that it's my favorite.  However, if I'm going far from home, I take the Benelli...
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Re: 11-87 cycling problem
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2009, 02:53:34 PM »
Thanks, duk...you know how it is.  BTW, I always enjoy your posts.
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