Author Topic: US Army to purchase $6million in riot gear for USA domestic use!!! (Read 1718 times)

Cabin4 · « **on:** March 13, 2009, 02:02:01 PM »

http://www.blacklistednews.com/news-3454-0-8-8--.html
Full article above link.

The U.S. Army is to invest $6 million in riot equipment, a fact that has furthered fears that troops will be used inside the U.S. in order to quell any civil unrest resulting from the ongoing economic crisis.

The U.S. Army Contracting Agency, based at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, has a post on the Federal Business Opportunities website, requesting the equipment and has received several notices of interest from potential vendors.

The request titled “84–RIOT EQUIPMENT” outlines the need for hard polyethylene Shin and Chest Guards, shock absorbing Forearm Protectors, Interior leg brace supports as well as knee and ankle protectors.

The ACA asks that the equipment be able to “safely withstand a substantial blow… from non-ballistic weapons or flying debris”.

"...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it..."

-- Thomas Jefferson, the Declaration of Independence

tbull55 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 25, 2009, 08:08:55 AM »

It won't take much to get them started. And when they get started gun owners are done. That is why I sold almost all of my guns. I don't need that hassle when TSHTF. I did keep my Kimber Ultra Carry for personal protection. Then of course the law of averages got me and while on a hunting trip with a buddy we turned our canoe over and it was lost. So here it is, the government and my own bone head mistake has already disarmed me!

Tbull

LONGTOM · « **Reply #2 on:** March 25, 2009, 08:15:47 AM »

Damn man, giving up before the fight even starts.
One down, only 59,000,000 or so more to go!

I won't be that easy!

LONGTOM

Cabin4 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 25, 2009, 08:27:54 AM »

I will never give up any of my guns. If they pass a law tomorow banning say semi's and order confiscation, I will refuse to comply because that order is in violation of the constitution.

kitchawan kid · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2009, 08:34:48 AM »

I don't know ,I think I lost alot of my guns also!

rparsons934 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2009, 09:07:18 AM »

Quote from: cabin4 on March 25, 2009, 08:27:54 AM

I will never give up any of my guns. If they pass a law tomorow banning say semi's and order confiscation, I will refuse to comply because that order is in violation of the constitution.

Right there with ya. But chances are be ready to use it because they arnt going to give u a chance to take it to the supream court.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 25, 2009, 09:18:46 AM »

Quote from: rparsons934 on March 25, 2009, 09:07:18 AM

Quote from: cabin4 on March 25, 2009, 08:27:54 AM
I will never give up any of my guns. If they pass a law tomorow banning say semi's and order confiscation, I will refuse to comply because that order is in violation of the constitution.

Right there with ya. But chances are be ready to use it because they arnt going to give u a chance to take it to the supream court.

I understand my stance may cause a conflict. My Rights under the constitution can only be taken from me by God, not politicians nor any man.

Life without freedom is a living death. Why prolong it.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2009, 09:46:17 AM »

live to fight another day

rparsons934 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2009, 09:50:02 AM »

Quote from: cabin4 on March 25, 2009, 09:18:46 AM

Quote from: rparsons934 on March 25, 2009, 09:07:18 AM
Quote from: cabin4 on March 25, 2009, 08:27:54 AM
I will never give up any of my guns. If they pass a law tomorow banning say semi's and order confiscation, I will refuse to comply because that order is in violation of the constitution.

Right there with ya. But chances are be ready to use it because they arnt going to give u a chance to take it to the supream court.

I understand my stance may cause a conflict. My Rights under the constitution can only be taken from me by God, not politicians nor any man.

Life without freedom is a living death. Why prolong it.

Couldnt agree more. I would stand up for my right as well as im sure a lot here would to.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2009, 09:54:12 AM »

so if our elected officals pass laws through due process as prescribed in our laws you will disobey them ?

Cabin4 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2009, 09:55:34 AM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on March 25, 2009, 09:54:12 AM

so if our elected officals pass laws through due process as prescribed in our laws you will disobey them ?

If they violate the constitution, yes.

Sourdough · « **Reply #11 on:** March 25, 2009, 09:56:33 AM »

Copied from Cabin 4s post

"...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it..."

-- Thomas Jefferson, the Declaration of Independence

You know, I think this statement may be getting a lot of attention. And it's time is getting close.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #12 on:** March 25, 2009, 10:02:41 AM »

That was my point it can be legal . Then what will we do ? If the correct / legal course of action on the law makers part deletes our right to arms what then ?

45-70.gov · « **Reply #13 on:** March 25, 2009, 10:06:08 AM »

it was not legal for the REBELS to declare independence form england was it?

kitchawan kid · « **Reply #14 on:** March 25, 2009, 10:14:33 AM »

Passive renaissance is one way,it's very hard to push a string.I think like most here if my 2nd. Amendment right is taken away they can't take much more away,so they better build more jails, they will fill up quickly

SDS-GEN · « **Reply #15 on:** March 25, 2009, 10:18:10 AM »

When I was in the army we trained a couple of times a year for "riot control" scenarios. That was 15 years ago, this isn't anything new. When I was in we were issued a kevlar helmet and a big stick, I'm glad to see our troops getting more protective gear.

kitchawan kid · « **Reply #16 on:** March 25, 2009, 10:32:38 AM »

They gave you a big stick? when I was in only the D.I's had them.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #17 on:** March 25, 2009, 10:36:57 AM »

45-70 no it was not . But England was an ocean away , and their troops were defeated and sent home .
To sit back and rattle a saber and watch a blood bath begin instead of making an effort to re-educate those mislead and brain washed over the last 30 years seems like a waste .
Once the ablity to change thru. voting is replaced with armed revolt we will never regain what we have . At the time of the rebels we were mostly a white population from like backgrounds . Today we are many races from all backgrounds . We have hard enough times living under the law we have , does anyone believe we could agree on a new form of govt. ?

lrs · « **Reply #18 on:** March 25, 2009, 10:49:35 AM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on March 25, 2009, 10:36:57 AM

45-70 no it was not . But England was an ocean away , and their troops were defeated and sent home .
To sit back and rattle a saber and watch a blood bath begin instead of making an effort to re-educate those mislead and brain washed over the last 30 years seems like a waste .
Once the ablity to change thru. voting is replaced with armed revolt we will never regain what we have . At the time of the rebels we were mostly a white population from like backgrounds . Today we are many races from all backgrounds . We have hard enough times living under the law we have , does anyone believe we could agree on a new form of govt. ?

I do not think it is possible to reeducate those who have been brainwashed over the past 30 years. They are so far gone they are unreachable.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #19 on:** March 25, 2009, 10:50:04 AM »

shootall you are intirely correct

but just the threat of raising the stakes will make the CHANGE every one voted for
come about more slowly and give us a chance to vote them out

an all out ban would cause a revolt and they know that
so they will just do what they think they can get away with

and we need to remind them not to push too hard

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #20 on:** March 25, 2009, 11:00:00 AM »

as we gun owners stand shoulder to shoulder ( i pray we do ) figured someone should be reasonable . I think your resolve may help the re-education process .
And so you know I grew up 25 blocks and 1 river crossing from the place where the give me Liberty or give death speech took place ! And find them still good words !

Cabin4 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 25, 2009, 11:31:07 AM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on March 25, 2009, 10:02:41 AM

That was my point it can be legal . Then what will we do ? If the correct / legal course of action on the law makers part deletes our right to arms what then ?

Do not give up any of your arms. Just because they pass a law does not mean they can enforce it. I lived in Illinois about 10 miles from Morton Grove (aka Moron Grove). They passed a local ordinance outlawing hand guns. There was a mandatory confiscation period. Some people gave up their arms and others defied the township to try and enforce it. The township was powerless without BATF (federal) support. So that answers the local law issue. BTW: This law was later challenged and over turned recently.

If a federal law is passed, then it will be significantly more difficult. The best method is of course litigation on constitutional grounds. If we have the same 5/4 court, then it will likely get stricken. If we have the 4/5 court that the obamanation wants, then it will be upheld. If upheld by the supreme court, then I refer you back to earlier comments about living death.

FWiedner · « **Reply #22 on:** March 25, 2009, 11:56:30 AM »

This is why civilians aren't "allowed" to have sawed-off shotguns.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #23 on:** March 25, 2009, 12:01:37 PM »

my shot gun has 9 inch barrels

Dee · « **Reply #24 on:** March 25, 2009, 12:26:47 PM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on March 25, 2009, 10:02:41 AM

That was my point it can be legal . Then what will we do ? If the correct / legal course of action on the law makers part deletes our right to arms what then ?

The CONSTITUTION is what the Government CANNOT DO. The Bill of Rights is what THEY CAN DO "ONLY AFTER DUE PROCESS OF LAW". The Second Amendment is a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, but as far as I'm concerned is a GOD GIVEN RIGHT. To my knowledge God has not REPEALED MY 2nd AMMENDMENT RIGHTS. At least I have not been notified by any representatives from Heaven. When I am notified, I suspect I will not need the 2nd Amendment anyway.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 25, 2009, 12:50:39 PM »

Quote from: 45-70.gov on March 25, 2009, 12:01:37 PM

my shot gun has 9 inch barrels

Shhh Shhhh

Cabin4 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 25, 2009, 04:47:45 PM »

Never will I give up or give in.

"Resistance to tyranny becomes the Christian and social duty of each individual. ... Continue steadfast and, with a proper sense of your dependence on God, nobly defend those rights which heaven gave, and no man ought to take from us."
John Hancock

slim rem 7 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 26, 2009, 01:57:48 AM »

im with you every step cabin.. hope that don t bother you any..
don t turn them in.. don t fight at your home.. you loose .guranteed..
do organize and makum know we watching..be willing to do whats necessary to stop opression no matter what mask its wearing..
be careful who you align yourself with .. the gun crazy exstremest will if alowed steal your freedom movement an just be another tyrant..
its a time for cool heads an firm resolve..slim
ps an prayer

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #28 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:36:08 AM »

the next 2 years will be interesting !

tbull55 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 27, 2009, 08:44:34 AM »

So let's say the federal law is passed and local law enforcement and BATF get orders to start confiscating guns and they start in your town. Now we all know that the order can be given to the locals, troops, etc. and they will start and there would be a good month or two between the order being given and them stopping due to the law being reevaluated or said to be against the constitution. Kind of like hurricane katrina but on a much bigger scale. It ws illegal, but they did it anyway.

So, in these weeks they start coming door to door in a mans neighborhood and searching houses because they know who has what and so on. They come to a mans house who has a family and this man has already decided that he will not give up his guns without a fight. they knock on or knock down the door, this man resists and draws his own weapons, as to follow the, "they will have to pry it from my cold dead hands" saying and the "law"enforcement ends up killing this man. Because in the begining these"law"enforcement guys are going to be jacked up with the itchy trigger fingers. Yes, he might have taken a few with him but, in the end this man is dead, they got his guns, and now his family has no husband and father, the wife and children are essentially left on their own.

How can this situation be avoided or how could this situation been delt with differently but still up hold the, "YOU AINT GETTIN MY DAMN GUNS" attitude? The man is dead and his attitude has changed nothing except for the fact that he is dead and his family is on it's own, no revolution was started because of his actions, no mass backlash against law enforcement started. this man basically becomes a statistic to report years later. Men must be smarter than that, not to say anyone is not smart, this situation just needs to be thought about.

What say you??

Tbull