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« on: March 21, 2009, 10:38:32 AM »
This is not orgional to me. I observed a older fellow in New Mexico living like this. I like it, doubt that I could sell the idea to the wife though. ;D

I would like to build a rubber tired sheephearder wagon, and get a team of mules to pull it. I'd have a wooden water barrel and tool box on the outside. The other side a table to fold down for cooking and eating on. Bed and gear inside. A team of mules to pull it.

I would live in the southern rocky mountains. In the fall I'd head south into the high desert/foothills to winter where It's warmer. In the spring I would start back to the high country and summer where it's cooler. All I would need would be supplies that I could purchase in several towns along the way, out of my retirement check.

Cheap living, Livestock to take up my time, Camping out year round, What a life. Regards,

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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2009, 11:20:33 AM »
Great,but where do you pick up your SS check?
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2009, 11:22:26 AM »
My wife would love it and it would probably kill me in a month. Maybe we could trade? :o

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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2009, 12:21:48 PM »
Ever bathe in a mountain stream?  How do you keep your beer cold?  Where do you plug in the computer and the cell phone?  It'd be a lot of fun for a couple of weeks, but after that I think it would get old very fast.  It would be a lot simpler to get a small cabin with utilities out of the main stream of things, with acreage you could hunt, fish and garden.  Harvest a lot of your own food, burn your own wood.  My wife spins, knits and weaves, if you wanted, you could make some of your own clothes.  You also would not be anywhere so vulnerable.

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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2009, 04:03:09 PM »
On the SS check you have direct deposit at one of the towns you will pass through to their local bank. You use a bank card to withdraw. Most of the places I'd be you won't need cash anyway.

Cell phones probably won't work. No antanas but the power is not a problem with a small solar pannel and 12 volt battery set up to power the lights in the wagon. The computer would be a problem unless you had a satelite connection.

Paying bills would be set up on auto-pay through the bank.
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2009, 04:36:56 PM »
Swap the wagon for a Winnebago and the mules for a couple of duel sport motorcycles to head into town on so's the Winnebago can stay hooked up to power and water at the campground and you might have something I'ld consider.  ;)
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2009, 04:58:37 PM »
I have encounter a few Basque shepherds over the years.  A lonely life, and they do a lot of artwork in the Alder Patches.  Most of it has to do with nude women.  I never encountered one with a woman in tow.  They must be allergic to the cold high mountain water because clean clothing and bathing may not be a priority.  I rather suspect that the odor comes with the job.  The ones I ran into did not speak much or any English. 

My image maybe incorrect, they could be old white males, who got a job herding sheep, and dropped out from society.  Smelling bad, and not speaking English shortens visits, and discourages return company.  But they do live a busy life herding the sheep, and protecting them from varmints.  A couple of tourist encountered one of them.  He was covered with blood, tried to communicate with hand signals, and smelled rather bad. 

The tourist reported a crazy man who had shot and killed somebody.

The Sheriff responded all available units, and gathered up the SWAT folks.  Turns out the sheepherder shot a bear protecting the herd and started to bury it.  Felt it was too much work and went out to the highway and flagged down a tourist.   He had been described as a craze man, covered in blood, and speaking in riddles. 

I give them credit for doing the job, they do.

This crazy thinks about taking a couple of pack mules and doing the Pacific Crest Trail from Mexico to Canada.  Need to start in the Spring before it heats up, and then might have to hold up a little to let the snow clear the trails in the Southern Sierra.  The bankcard is on the money. 

I spent a summer living in a high mountain camp in small camp trailer.  A small nearby stream was used to bath in.  Freezing temperatures were common all summer.  Our toilet was a deep trench on a hillside, with a floor made from limbs with a campground type fixture.  Camp water was hauled in ten-gallon milk cans.  There was no TV, or telephone, and very little contact with other people.  Winter snows are measured in feet, and I was happy to go back to college in the fall.

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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2009, 05:40:38 PM »
I sort of lived like that when I lived in New Mexico.  I would spend weeks at a time out in the dessert rounding up cattle and horses.  Living out of a pack saddle, tent (sometimes, sometimes I would not bother, just slept under the stars), Not enough water usually to bath for a week.  Eating what I cooked over a campfire and in a dutch oven.  Sleeping real light expecting snakes, coyotes, or wet backs, to come into camp.  After a couple of years it got old.  While I could do it if I had to, I don't want to.
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2009, 05:44:33 PM »
I'll agree mountain streams an't for sissies. I've bathed in a few of them. As long as I have my Charmin I can handle the pit to go in.  ;D regards
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2009, 05:46:39 PM »
actually where I was thinking of was between Reserve NM and Lordsburg on the low end. Silver City would be the mid point and where I would bank.
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2009, 05:48:40 PM »
I will say this I draw the line at those smelly sheep. ;D I just want the wagon and the mules.
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2009, 05:49:17 PM »
Idaho. Period.
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2009, 06:01:15 PM »
Idaho offers no where to winter. It would be great in the summer, as would Montana.
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2009, 06:12:46 PM »
I like winter. Cold & snow are good.
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2009, 07:16:32 PM »
Not living outside. The only way it would work would be to part-time it and go home in the winter. I want to full-time it, that means moving with the seasons. In the southwest you don't need to move far just to a lower altitude.

I lived in the Gila river country for 16years and I like it. Packed all over it. The climate suits me and the people do too. I miss the chilies. ;D

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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2009, 05:20:01 AM »
I never been to the Gila River area but it looks great from the pics on google images. I would not mind New Mexico at all if it were not for the illegal immigrant issue. Now maybe that area does not have that issue. But it's important to me overall, to be around like minded people. Ifin you now whata mean!
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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2009, 07:09:09 AM »
I will say the nice thing about southern New Mexico, is that in the winter you can be in Alamogordo at 50 degrees, and in 20 minutes be sledding in Sunspot with snow up to your hips.
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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2009, 07:22:30 AM »
So true Sourdough, You can have whatever climate you want except tropical & rainforest.

There are wetbacks passing through the area but Silver is far enough from the border that it was not a problem when I lived there.

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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2009, 08:11:30 AM »
C4...in parts of NM, etc. you are considered the illegal immigrant..... :)...TM7
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And thats why I won't go there.

I rather be cold in the winter then be considered an immigrant in my own country any day.
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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2009, 08:38:59 AM »
The statement made about brown skinned people being considered illegal on sight is simply not true. Even the Mexican Americans resent the illegals. At least in NM they do. The majority of the residents in southern NM are of Mexican desent. If you speak spanish thats a plus. The people that are born and raised in the area get along. They eat the same food and most are bylingual. I found the mexican people to be very warm hospital people, as a group. We still have very dear friend in the southwest that we keep in touch with.

My wife is native american and most of the local people thought she was hispanic. She did not speak spanish so they soon found out she was not. It just really did not matter to most of the people in the area what color your skin is. I've found that everywhere I've traveled if you treat people with dignity and respect they usually respond in kind. The peoblem that americans have as a people group, is that we are arigant and condesending. If you just treat people the way you want to be treated things will go better for you.

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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2009, 09:56:45 AM »
Well, I don't speak any Spanish and never will. It still does not sound like an area I would like although it sure looks darn purtty.

I need to be around by kind. I suppose I'm no differant then the native Americans or Mexicans for that matter in this respect. Most Indians want to be around Indians and Mexicans want to be around Mexicans, blacks, etc. Makes sense to me. I'm feel the same, just from a differant group. If someone feels comfortable in that setting, thats good for them. By issues go far beyound race & skin color. I want to be around people who have the same sence of living, politics, governments role as I do. As a few examples.



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« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2009, 12:52:40 PM »
Cabin4, I've lived in a lot of different places and in different culures. Each has it's own beauty,just like each geographical region of our great country has it's own beauty. It's been 34 years since I've lived where whites were in the majority. I honestly don't pay much attention to race anymore.

What makes you think mexican americans or indians have any different values than you do? I've lived among them for years. They have the same basic needs and desires anyone else has. I never learned spanish either only a few words, enought to order food or ask for the bathroom. I have not learned Tsimshean either, the tribe I live among now. Those are superfical things. Whats important to most people is do you care about them, do you treat them as equals, with dignity and respect. It helps to enjoy their food as well ;D If you ever visit me I'll give you the best pieces of the baked fish heads, the eye balls. ;D

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« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2009, 01:12:59 PM »
Say cabin4, Where did you loose your horse? You got a different picture there by your name now. Would that be you? Your a young pup an't ya.  ;D

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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2009, 01:14:30 PM »
Say cabin4, Where did you loose your horse?

I'm betting the folks at the dude ranch made him return it.
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« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2009, 01:24:52 PM »
Say cabin4, Where did you loose your horse? You got a different picture there by your name now. Would that be you? Your a young pup an't ya.  ;D

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Thought it was time for a change. I'm 47 and that picture was taken last August. So am I young? I guess that all depends...
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« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2009, 01:46:35 PM »
Compared to me your young. I guess everything is relative.  ;) Enjoy it while you can. Like my moma told me when she was about 90 "This getting old an't as much fun as I thought it would be"
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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2009, 01:49:57 PM »
Cabin4, I've lived in a lot of different places and in different culures. Each has it's own beauty,just like each geographical region of our great country has it's own beauty. It's been 34 years since I've lived where whites were in the majority. I honestly don't pay much attention to race anymore.

What makes you think mexican americans or indians have any different values than you do? I've lived among them for years. They have the same basic needs and desires anyone else has. I never learned spanish either only a few words, enought to order food or ask for the bathroom. I have not learned Tsimshean either, the tribe I live among now. Those are superfical things. Whats important to most people is do you care about them, do you treat them as equals, with dignity and respect. It helps to enjoy their food as well ;D If you ever visit me I'll give you the best pieces of the baked fish heads, the eye balls. ;D

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If this works for you that’s great. I simply have a desire live around my kind. Over the years I've found very little in common with Mexicans and other minorities. I don't share many of what I feel are their poor values or desire to soak off the dole of tax payers. I'm certain they are all not the same but by in large, most are. I see the government as an evil carcass and they mostly look at it for all their solutions. I want government and it's claws as far away from me as possible and they seem to want it close by.

My only dealings with Indians was in northern Wisconsin with the Lac du Flambeau tribe and it was extremely poor. I have no use for that band of losers and their worthless tribal leadership.  I have no idea what other tribes are like and just hope they are not like the ones I met. There is clearly a long history with Indian tribes here in NA and this is their home and I respect them for that. I do think it would be interesting to learn more about Indian ways because I see them as being a very self sufficient people. Something I admire.

Dignity and respect is a 2 way street and quite frankly, I've never felt the street ran in both directions with Mexicans. We have 22 million of them here illegally today and that in itself is enough disrespect for me.

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Say cabin4, Where did you loose your horse?

I'm betting the folks at the dude ranch made him return it.

Very funny skunky.
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Compared to me your young. I guess everything is relative.  ;) Enjoy it while you can. Like my moma told me when she was about 90 "This getting old an't as much fun as I thought it would be"

I’m a trying.....trying to keep in shape and exercise...I want to die in the mountains as far from civilization as possible and figure I better be in good shape so I can get back there. ;D ;D
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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2009, 02:23:37 PM »
cabin4, I always thought I would die a violent death, perhaps eaten by a grizzly on some remote mountain top.

I've horsebacked the rochys and traveled to the 4 extreams of Alaska. Drank the Yukons waters,seen the Artic ocean, piloted my own boat through the coastal waterways of southeast Alaska. Camped out for weeks on end, all by myself, in all these places. It's been a fun ride. The great adventure.

Now I don't want my retirement to be any less of and adventure. If I end up dieing in some remote place and the varmits scatter my bones I will count my life well spent. ;)

Say whats your favorite horse? Mine was my Reg. Arabian, Amazon Queen. Best mountain horse I ever owned. You could not tire her out. She outlasted the mules.
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