anyone shoot a S&W K22

[Questor]

Old Griz:

I can understand that. I got mine just as a target gun not thinking they would appreciate so much. I still shoot it, though. It's a good gun.

[Old Griz]

I don't why, but I have always been fascinated with them. It's one I'll always wish I had, but will never pay what they are asking today for one.

[Waldo Pepper]

I have a K-22 Target Masterpiece Model 48 (WMR) with factory LR cylinder and it is accurate and a fine gun, but my Dan Wesson is more accurate and less finicky on ammo and has better trigger and sights. I would swap my 48 in a heart beat for another DW 22 for sure, but the DW is like finding a chicken with teeth. Few were made and for some reason seldom seem to come up for sale. I would sell any S&W I have before I would sell my Dan Wesson's.

Another thing that kind of erks me about the S&W is the market has gone crazy with the older model guns. Three or four years ago a M-48 like mine would sell for $200 to $300 range and now that same gun if you can find it will bring $600 plus and that is crazy, but people seem to be willing to pay and not care. I am wondering if the gun market will crash like house market if a large turn over in Congress happens in Nov next year.

[buckeye509]

I got my first handgun lessons from my LEO Dad using a K-22 when I was around 14-15 yoa. Soon after I was roaming the woods with it and a 22 rifle just "plinking", ground hogs, ground squirrels and the like. The K-22 is one of the finest revolvers S&W ever put out IMO. Incredible smooth double action and crisp single action.

[gwhilikerz]

I can remember my Mom rabbit hunting with a K22 when I was just about knee high. My Dad carried either a Browning Sweet 16 or a little Browning 22 auto. My brother and I had a 410 and 20 ga. Winchester 37's. Mom could shoot walnuts out of trees with that k22. I once saw her shoot a jumping bass at a lake that was being drained. My brother still has that gun.

[Hammerdown]

Over the years I've owned about every type of handgun made. It's been fun, but I've finelly settled on my favorite. For me it's the S&W K22, or it's predicessor the K22 outdoorsman. I have 3 pre-war outdoorsman that I shoot, and 1 post war K22. As well as 2 S&W model 48's. The same gun in 22mag.

Ya just got to love the K22's. Argueably the finest 22 ever produced.

Whats your favorite 22.

Hello Pastorp
I agree with you on this totaly. S&W wrote the Book on Fine Target Model .22 revolvers starting in 1931 with the release of the First Edition K-22 Outdoorsman model. I have one from 1936 and love it. Post-War K-22's saw the addition of the barrel rib, short cocking action, Trigger travel stop, & Larger Micro sights making them The Target Masterpieces. Shown is my 1947 Transitional model with a 4 digit Low serial number and Large  Mushroom shaped cylinder extractor knob from Pre-War times that shipped in Early 1947. After 1957 S&W started to Place model numbers on the K-22's being the model 17. Shown is my Model 48 in .22 W.M.R. which is a 4 screw gun that shipped in 1961 with a Hard to find 4" Barrel Model marked a 48 No dash. The Dash series of K-22's started in 1962 time frame and shown below that is my Special order model 17-2 with a special  Red Post Patridge front sight, Wide Target Hammer & Trigger and a set of Factory Rosewood large style diamond Target grips. I Guess I have been Bitten by the K-22 Bug... Hammerdown

[Old Fart]

Man Hammerdown that is a sweet looking specimen there.

[Three44s]

Three .22 rimfire sidearms here:

A post war K22, 6"

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There are only two kinds of Round shooter owners:

Those that have a truely good .22 lr revolver, and those that need to get one POST HASTE!!!

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A 48-4 ...... also a six inch

..... and a DW Monson .22 lr ......  another six inch.

The Smiths I own beat the DW 22 as to trigger.

My DW in .41 mag (another Monson gun)  ....... well THAT's a DIFFERENT story!!!

That trigger is set for "thinkin'  "  ...... beats anything I have ever fired!

Three 44s

[Waldo Pepper]

My DW 722 (M) and my K-22-M-48 no- both have about the same trigger, the S&W has a little better SA trigger and the DW is way better double action mode. With the DW I can shoot better groups, but I think it is because of the K frame being a tad small for my hand or too light, or what ever reason.

I haven't shot the 48 in quite a while now, the DW 722 with the WMR cylinder is just an all around better gun. I haven't even shot the new Long Rifle cylinder that I can remember for sure, but I probably did test fire a least six for function after I got it back from Keith at Dan Wesson. I had a bad LR cylinder that may have been a bad cylinder job from factory, but Keith installed a new LR cylinder and honed the old LR cylinder to WMR size and it has been a dream shooter. So far I have out shot some fellow club members Ruger's, a Mk III Target pistol on the 25 yard range, a older 10/22 with custom barrel, and my own Ruger 96 22 WMR lever action at 50 yard range. That 8" DW is just about impossible for another 22 LR or WMR to out shoot, that is a gun I will never part with and have thought about finding another.   

[Hammerdown]

I have a K-22 Target Masterpiece Model 48 (WMR) with factory LR cylinder and it is accurate and a fine gun, but my Dan Wesson is more accurate and less finicky on ammo and has better trigger and sights. I would swap my 48 in a heart beat for another DW 22 for sure, but the DW is like finding a chicken with teeth. Few were made and for some reason seldom seem to come up for sale. I would sell any S&W I have before I would sell my Dan Wesson's.

Hi
I am Pleased to announce That Forum member here, Waldo Pepper and I struck up a Trade agreement. Shortly he will have a Brand New In Box S&W Stainless .22 Target Pistol, and his Beloved S&W Model 48 Revolver in .22 W.M.R. Caliber along with the auxiliary .22 L. R. Caliber cylinder, will be residing in my S&W collection.   I have scoured the Internet for a "S&W Model 48 Convertible" shortly after selling off one I had that was Mint back in 1997 to No Avail. That was One I always Regretted getting rid of afterwards as These revolver's do not come along often with Both cylinder's, and through the Grace and Patients of Waldo, we have struck a Great swap for Both of us from the results of this Thread. I Look forward to adding his 4 screw First Year 48 to my S&W collection and now the shorter Brother I have that is also a 4 screw Model 48 will No Longer Be lonely. Thank's for the Trade Waldo, and remember, be careful what you wish for on a Trade in these Gun forums as someone may call you out on it if you offer that special Gun for Trading Purposes...   Here is my 4" Model 48 that I have right now, That I fired at a B-27 Target at the 100 Line with {Target also shown} and Don't believe it for a minute when someone tells you that the .22 W.M.R. is NOT accurate in a Handgun, it is The Person behind it that makes One Truly Perform... I shot this B-27  man sized Target Off hand On a Dare at my Local Range as Four Other Range safety officers Looked on with spotting scopes to see if I could hit the Target in a Kill zone at 100 Yards. Once I shot all six rounds, holding on the neck Region The Ones watching with spotting scopes said "Well, He did It, Five out of Six in The Kill Zone" and a  A Very Humble Silence fell over the Peanut Gallery In The 9 Ring area I Placed Two shot's in One on The left Hit, and Just flinched a Bit on the Far right Hit just on the edge of The Black area {The Peer Pressure from On Looker's was Unbelieveable}...I will Post Pictures of this Hard to locate  S&W Model 48 Covertible, with His Little Brother shown when it shows on my end...Hammerdown

[Waldo Pepper]

You are so right hammerdown, you are so right. 

Hey you know I had a friend send me a picture of his -4 and that is when I realized that his did not have the crane and neither did my 48, it is my Dan Wesson that has the crane and cylinder. Sure would be a lot easier to just unscrew the ejector and remove the cylinder on the DW from the crane and switching cylinders like the Smith. Even if the S&W had the crane it would be a lot easier with S&W then the DW, as the S&W would just require the removal of the crane screw on the side plate, where the DW would require removal of the side plate and removing the stop ring holding the crane in place and that is not a job for the woods or outdoor range.

That got me to wondering why would you even want the crane involved if the cylinder was timed correct? I rechecked my 48 with the aluminum cleaning rod again last night and it appears in perfect time. Since I have never fired the cylinder before or after it went to S&W for a check up and opening the B&C from the .002" to about .004" IIRC, but I never took the gun out to range to shoot and it is still unfired since its return. Anyway I will tomorrow or today if I get back from gun show in time see if it can be done with the DW like the S&W w/o a crane being used. Sure would make switching at the range easy with the DW and make the DW more user friendly.

 

[Rutin2tin]

Built in 1968. I've recently added new (old stock) target trigger and hammer, and Wilson Combat trigger & main springs
and an action job to the gun.



My SW617 (no dash)

[Waldo Pepper]

If you have nothing to contribute to a thread that is ON TOPIC how about just now posting to it. Stop trying to steal threads and turn them into a discussion of something else. If you wish to talk about the other items start your own thread about them. Graybeard.

[dorothy daily]

think colt diamondback,if you can find one, and be amazed at the improvement.

[Waldo Pepper]

I must say I have never seen people take as good pictures as Hammerdown, I have wondered at times if he maybe was a pro shutter type. He has the 48 of mine now and I have a 2206 6" target model to replace it with, I think he got the better deal. But who cares I was wanting a shooter. Just today was on S&W site and see they have brought back both the 4" & 6" model 48 now with MSRP $1043 for 4" and $1082 for the 6" models. Best guess is the shoots will go for the new ones with the Infernal Locks and collectors will drive the old guns out of reach of us mere mortals.

Here is the 2206 in its rig.


The 2206 w/o holster.


It's butt ugly but they are very good shooters and not ammo finicky jamatic's like Ruger Mk III guns.

[pastorp]

Here is my favorite plinker and fun shooter of revolvers. Has single action that makes S&W owners cry and DA that confuses S&W owners when the hammer rises and falls in half the trigger travel of their S&W. What's not to love about a 22 rimefire that is N frame size. 

The weight...............JMO

Regards,

[Waldo Pepper]

The weight...............JMO

Regards,

On the range it's a plus, put the 4" barrel on and its weight of L frame is fine carrying in woods. Nothing like a revolver better built then S&W, more accurate and user friendly on barrel changes, pulling inturnals out for cleaning and repair.

[pastorp]

It would not be a plus for me.  But your entitled to your opinion. However this was a S&W K22 thread.

JMO but Dan Wessons are more useful for a boat anchor. I bet I've got 22 rifles that are lighter than that thing your shooting. Have you ever handled a pre war K22?  Now there is craftmanship.

Regards,

[Waldo Pepper]

Yes and they suck. Didn't mean to rain on your parade, but since were being snippy I guess I can to.

Hey, I have very large to go with my 6'5" 290 lb body and K/L frame S&W's are just to small a hand fit. I love my S&W N frames and my 22A with its large grip so go ahead and bad mouth my Dan Wesson as you opinion has no weight with me as I figure like the old saying goes everyone is entitled to their own in this free country.

My favorite 22 Auto is my 22A just so you know.

[pastorp]

Just trying to point out Waldo that everyone else on this thread are talking about and showing pictures of S&W K22s.  Your free to start a Dan Wesson thread. Now, with your permission, could we get back on track.

Regards,

[Waldo Pepper]

So you didn't see the posts about the K22 M48 of mine?

[Drilling Man]

Dan Wessons are more useful for a boat anchor. I bet I've got 22 rifles that are lighter than that thing your shooting. Have you ever handled a pre war K22?  Now there is craftmanship.

Regards,

  I agree!

  DM

[S.B.]

Here is my favorite plinker and fun shooter of revolvers. Has single action that makes S&W owners cry and DA that confuses S&W owners when the hammer rises and falls in half the trigger travel of their S&W. What's not to love about a 22 rimefire that is N frame size. 

What brand is this gun, please? Doubt I'd care for an N frame sized .22? Love the balance of the S&W k framed .22s thou.
Steve

[chefjeff]

My fav is a 651 S&W. RR front sight. SWEEEEET

[RJL-77]

I also have been fortunate enough to finally have a 48-3. 6" and I like it alot. got it a the local smiths store, about 5 years ago for $175. Jim 

[saddlebum]

I got my K-22 at a pawn shop for 200.00. The guy wanted 400.00 for it but somebody slopped paint all over the sights and it had a Pachmayr grip on it so I talked him down. It's an early post-war model with the neat hand checkered hammer spur and 6" bbl. It cleaned up real nice and is very accurate. I put a S&W target grip on it for 10.00. Not a collector but a real  nice shooter.

[S.B.]

I got my K-22 at a pawn shop for 200.00. The guy wanted 400.00 for it but somebody slopped paint all over the sights and it had a Pachmyer grip on it so I talked him down. It's an early post-war model with the neat hand checkered hammer spur and 6" bbl. It cleaned up real nice and is very accurate. I put a S&W target grip on it for 10.00. Not a collector but a real  nice shooter.

How long ago has this been and would you please post some pictures of your find? Both your price you paid for the gun and grips seems extremely low.
Steve

[saddlebum]

I think it was about 6 or 7 years ago I bought my K22. The pawn shop is in Reno, Nv. One reason the price was so low was because the rear sight was covered in pastel green latex type interior wall paint. The front sight had red paint slopped on it with runs down the sight base. When I was horse tradin with the guy I used the dull blueing as an excuse to lower the price, not knowing at the time that it came that way from the factory,(not brite blueing). The '70s or '80s style target grips is one of 2 pair I bought at a cheezy little gun show they used to have in Reno once a month. That was a couple of years before I got the K22 when the going price for the grips was around 40-60 dollars. One of the few good things about the city, IMO, is finding good deals on used guns in pawn shops and small gun shops, or new ones in discount stores. Many times pawn shop guys don't know what they have or what it's worth or the salesman just isn't too sharp. The other thing about PS is they buy or pawn really cheap. Most of the time they have very little money in the guns. If you find the right salesman that wants to make a sale, he will look at how much they have in the gun and make you a good deal. Some will settle for nothing less than ripping you off. Some examples: S&W M57 4" pinned and recessed like new with Pachmayr grips= 250.00........at the same time-same PS,  M657 6" near new factory grips= 300.00 about 8yrs ago, different times M651=200.00 about 6 yrs ago, M36 3" like new with a set of factory combat type grips= 300.00 about 1yr ago, M81 Remington Woodsmaster in 300 Savage needed stock refinish blueing great= 185.00 about 6 or 8 yrs ago. I could go on but I will just say that the last time I went in a pawn shop I was looking for a gun for a lady friend of mine. I asked to look at a Browning HP 2-tone. It turned out to be a .40 S&W, no extra mag, came with the molded plastic box and showed very little use and no wear, pretty much like new. Starting price was 600.00,(which is blue book on it). I told the guy I wanted a 9mm instead. Without doing any horse tradin with him, he talked himself down to 300.00. I could have bought it and made money selling it but I didn't. Sorry I don't have a camera to send you a pic of the K22. Maybe I'll try to do something with the webcam later.

[saddlebum]

Ok, Not very good pics from my webcam indoors. My laptop makes for a pretty cumbersome camera. The info I got about it's age came from a website, putting it between 1946 and 1958. Thats going by the type of hammer and trigger it has. The serial number is K 86645, stamped on the grip frame and the loading end of the cylinder. It also has a stamping on the frame that is something I can't make out in front of a 2 and the #s 3  211. The grips aren't a match to the time period for  the gun but is the best I could do, at least for now. Sorry my pics aren't very good. Any input about the gun is very welcome, thanks!

[S.B.]

Yep fish hook hammer. Looks just fine to me, congrats.
Steve