WOW!! just the info I needed. You guys made my day, Both bullet molds I have, take gas checks which at the moment I have none. I still don't have a sizing die yet- will order that with gas checks soon. Will be using these in a rem. 700. Well back to casting more bullets, I hope to have 500 of each style before sizing and lubing. will post results when done testing. Thanks to all, bill439