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What a GIRL!
« on: March 24, 2009, 04:41:29 PM »
A story with a happy ending!
Now this is my kind of girl !!!


This nineteen-year-old ex-cheerleader (now an Air Force Security Forces Sniper) was
watching a road that led to a  military base when she observed a man digging by
the road. She engaged the target (i.e., she shot him). Turned out he was a bomb maker
for the Taliban and he was burying an IED that was to be detonated when a US patrol
walked by 30 minutes later. It would have certainly killed and wounded several soldiers.

The interesting fact of this story is the shot was measured at 725 yards. She shot him
as he was bent over burying the bomb. The shot went through his butt and into the bomb
which detonated; he was blown to pieces. The Air Force made a motivational poster of her:

 


       (Folks, that's a shot 25 yards longer than seven football fields!)


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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2009, 04:47:23 PM »

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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2009, 05:10:33 PM »
May or may not be a HOAX.

I see nothing that says it's a hoax.
They do call into question her school activities but not her shooting.

I don't always trust snopes.



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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2009, 05:56:34 PM »
Believe what you want.  Look around, it's listed as a hoax on lots of sites...  maybe... because...

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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2009, 05:59:42 PM »
Believe what you want.  Look around, it's listed as a hoax on lots of sites...  maybe... because...
everyone knows that women can't shoot-duh! ;)


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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2009, 06:19:18 PM »
Believe what you want.  Look around, it's listed as a hoax on lots of sites...  maybe... because...

I didn't say I beleaved one way or the other.
Just stated that snopes didn't say her shooting was a hoax.
They only questioned her being a cheerleader and her schooling.


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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2009, 06:21:21 PM »
Last I knew the Army was not putting women in combat roles.

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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2009, 07:25:31 PM »
The first post lists her as being in the Air Force.



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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2009, 08:42:10 PM »
 i choose to believe it.. she kinda looks like an actress ive seen on tv.. but i never seen her play a part like that..if its not true an the story says she popped a bushwhacker .. it oughta be. slim..

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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2009, 01:48:03 AM »
She's a sniper maybe not a Cheerleader
I couldn't copy it so I took a Picture of it
Sorry its not that good to read, but I'll try to blow it up if anyone complains


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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2009, 03:11:30 AM »
Looks like the same lady to me........

If there is any hoax, it may be in some details, or in under-reporting her credientials, but she looks pretty impressive to me, as are the many airmen who lay it on the line.

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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2009, 04:47:24 AM »
I'm impressed.  Over 700 yards, It's taken me over 20 years to learn how to shoot that far, and she is only 19. 

As for women shooting, ha they pay attention in class and listen.  The boys seem to feel like they already know it all, and do not want to sit and learn, they want to go shoot.
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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2009, 06:04:51 AM »
When everyone relies on snoopes for the answers, how do we know
if snoopes is on the up and up.
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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2009, 08:24:33 AM »
Just because it says snopes don't make it so.
They have been called into question before.


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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2009, 09:06:14 AM »
Just because it says snopes don't make it so.
They have been called into question before.


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Oh for god's sake...
a) If it seems too good to be true...
b) I know personally I don't believe anything that calls me into question...  Obviously.
c) Here's the picture ON A SITE RUN BY THE MILITARY!  (I doubt you'll trust them either - See (b)) http://www.acc.af.mil/photos/index.asp?galleryID=658
    1) No mention of 700 yard kills there... Wonder why?
    2) Don't you think if it were true it would be listed here where they talk about her accomplishments? http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10956030
d) Here's a link from ArmyParatrooper.org http://www.armyparatrooper.org/dropzone/showthread.php?s=2487e4fdd0d5787401da2823b611e5d7&t=16998&page=2  They are understandably skeptical although they agree that she is attractive.  I'd agree.
e) The urban legend first called her "Kimmy" from a USMC unit.  I wonder why the story has changed?
f) Here's a listed unit for her, send her a letter and ask why
     Senior Airman Polly-Jan Bobseine
     9th Air Force
     823d Security Forces Squadron
     Moody AFB, GA

Now, is it great that she's a good soldier?  Absolutely.  Did she make a 700+ yard kill in an incredibly unlikely scenario?  I sure doubt it.

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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2009, 10:49:54 AM »
Kinda hard to think she made it thru basic, and sniper training, and into combat at the age of 19. Not saying it can't be done. Just hard to believe it could be done.  gypsyman
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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2009, 01:51:53 PM »
How could anyone say she is a Marine?  Get real, she is wearing an Air Force uniform.  The picture speaks for itself on that point.  Look at the stripe on the sleeve.
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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2009, 01:55:24 PM »
LONGTOM,
Thanks for posting this.  Whether the article is perfectly accurate or not, it was pretty interesting to learn about this exceptional young lady.  Her military resume, as described in her official bios, is incredible.  With her qualifications and modern equipment, a 725 yard shot would not be a stretch at all.  She's accomplished a lot at her young age and she is a credit to herself, the Air Force, and this country.

Kinda hard to think she made it thru basic, and sniper training, and into combat at the age of 19. Not saying it can't be done. Just hard to believe it could be done.  gypsyman

I believe I read that she entered the USAF in 2003, and a 2006 article had her age at 21. That seems more plausible. I agree - it would be a lot to accomplish by age 19.  (It was pretty routine to get through training and into combat at age 19 in the mid - 60's though!)
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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2009, 02:08:18 PM »
My son is 20, and many of his buddies from High school have already been to Iraq and back.  Everyday I see 18 and 19 year olds at Ft Wainwright.  Ready to go overseas.  If parents sign the waiver a young man or woman can go in at the age of 17, and some parents will sign the waiver.

If Sky had wanted to go in when he graduated we would have let him.  But he decided he wants to be an Officer and fly jets.  To do that he needs his degree first.  Last week we had a discussion, his best friend dropped out of college, enlisted and is in boot camp now.  Sky then told me he wants to go into the military.  But he wants to fly either the F-22, or a Harrier.  He already flys fixed wing and rotor aircraft.  My buddy is a CFI and started Sky flying when he was 14.  Sky started flying helicopters when he was 16.
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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2009, 02:21:13 PM »
Yeah,
I do remember when a 25 year old was an "old guy" and a 40 year old NCO was "gramps".
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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2009, 02:48:58 PM »
I guess it must be a hoax then.

I don't know why some get so defensive.

I never ever said it was true or not.
I do question snopes only because they have been proven wrong in the past.

Seems like a few of the places has her as being from different brances of the military.
Which one is correct, I can't say.
Just proves that not all sites are correct in their statements.


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Re: What a GIRL!
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2009, 06:33:02 PM »
Longtom:  Look at her uniform, that is an Air Force uniform and those are Air Force stripes on her sleeve.  I don't care what anyone else says, this gal is Air Force period.

Age, I don't know.  Whether she made the shot or not I don't know that either.
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