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a remington 722 for a new england surviver???
« on: March 27, 2009, 04:22:07 PM »
a friend has a remington model 722 in 300 savage, i have a new england surviver in 308. he wants to trade me the remington for my new england even, he says he wants a gun already set up with scope and because of cheaper ammo (i use federal hi shok from wal-mart for $14.00 a box) the shops with 300 savage ammo want $30-$40 a box. so what do you guy's think? i have a little over $400 in the new england cause of the nikon scope. the rem. has a plain walnut stock no checkering and from the s.n. it was made in the mid 50's, it really looks nice. i have never had one before ( remington or 300 savage ) i need a little help making up my mind, the 308 will shoot 3/4 to 1 inch groups at 100 yards. my friend says the rem. shoots good but has'nt shot it at long range cause of no scope. thanks for any help.

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Re: a remington 722 for a new england surviver???
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2009, 06:15:17 PM »
The Remington 722 is a good action and the father of the Remington 700 short action.  My father had a 722 for years and gave me first choice of his three, 300 Savage when was in his late seventies.  I chose it’s strong action, proven accuracy, and the ability to load it a little hotter then the other two rifles, and model 99 Savage, and Model 81.  I did not blink when I made my selection. 

http://www.remington.com/library/history/firearm_models/centerfire/model_722.asp

My wildcat brother wanted that rifle for its action.

I use my reloads for hunting.  The rifle favors IMR4064 for 150-grain and 165-grain bullets.  The 300 Savage is a cartridge that can be improve upon with reloading.  I load .01 grain below Hornady’s published maximum for the 165-grain bullet.  My Chrony says I am getting 2670 fps fifteen feet from the muzzle.  This was done at 6700-foot elevation.  I started serious loading for the rifle about 30-years ago.  Once I loaded up the empties we had, and started looking for another sources.  I was soon using 7.62 cases, and a small base RCBS die to bring the machine gun fired cases down to size.  I have also purchased bulk Remington and Winchester 300 Savage cases.

I have complaints from others about the short neck.  I have never had an issue with it.

Initially my loading focused on 150-grain bullets.  Results were satisfying, but after experiencing some aggressive bears one fall I experimented with 165-grain bullets.  I had passed my 30-06 along, but I kept a large supply of 165-grain bullets and bought more later. 

I shot the buck below using the Model 722 with a 165-grain Nosler PT.  Why did I use a Nosler PT?  Because I had them, not because they were needed.  The rifle is wearing a Weaver Classic 2x10-38 scope.  The scope stayed clear on that 15° morning.



I believe the Hornady, and Remington 165 would have been just as successful.  Here is
Three of my .300 Savage loads, 165-grain Nosler, Hornady, and Remington.


IMR4064 has been my GO-TO powder, I have tried IMR4320, but my strong second choice is AA2015BR when loading 150-grain Hornady, and 150-grain Nosler BT.  BR stands for Bench Rest.  AA2015 does a good job in the 300 Savage case.  I have only tried it with 150-grain bullets.

My wildcatter brother who has numerous high velocity rifles recently returned to his roots.  He found an early Remington M760 pump in the 300 Savage.  He found factory ammunition to be expensive, and turned to his reloading bench.  He called me for a recommend 300 Savage loads, and he gave me a list of powders he had on hand.  I recommended the AA2015 powder he had on hand.  I told him his H4895 might be okay but I had not used it.  He called me back a couple weeks later and said he was very satisfied with the AA2015BR load, and was not trying anything else.

When brother was looking for factory ammunition he found the big retailers to be expensive, and the local mom and pop shop $15 a box less.





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Re: a remington 722 for a new england surviver???
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2009, 08:05:30 PM »
Done it already?!? Just Curious.

Those Remington 722's are fetching some unreal prices. The 300 Savage is way good and with Remington Coreloks can really get the job done efficiently.

My Dad has two Remington 722's, both in 257Roberts, until next month when I go to bring them all back to my gunroom. (A bitter-sweet trip, to be sure) His have custom stocks which he carved back in the late 50's. Offers 20 years ago were over $500, but he wouldn't sell, for which I am very thankful. The older one (a 1949 model, like me) was my Grandfather's and purchased used in 1953. Dad's was purchased new in 1952. They are kinda special to me and will not be sold while in my custody.

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Re: a remington 722 for a new england surviver???
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2009, 01:27:06 AM »
My father-in law has a Remington 722 in .222. It's a real beauty. I hope to have it in my gun collection someday.
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Re: a remington 722 for a new england surviver???
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2009, 04:55:11 AM »
so you guy's think i should trade? i've never owned a remington or a 300 savage, i don't reload so i'll be useing factory ammo. ya'll know more than i do about this, if you think its a good deal i'll trade. i have another surviver still new, it would be nice to finally own a remington. so post back with what i should do, thanks for the help.

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Re: a remington 722 for a new england surviver???
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2009, 07:11:27 AM »
I would not let reloading be a factor.  I enjoy reloading, and I have shoot a lot compared to my Dad who did not.  I shoot in a year what my Dad shot in many years.  Dad still killed deer with the rifle.

As I mentioned in an earlier post my Dad had two other .300 Savages that were used by my brothers when growing up.  When things were tight they shared the same box of shells.  Initially the 150-grain Remington Bronze point was the round of choice, but it quickly fell to the 150-grain Remington Cor-Lokt.  I think this is the round #2 brother took his first buck.  It was a large 3x4 with tall eye guard points.  I guess in the East it would have been called a 9-point.  The big old buck had a thick layer of fat.

A week or two later the same brother killed a small 2x3 buck using the same load.  He and another brother continued being successful with the .300 Savage using factory loads in years to come.

As consumers of factory ammunition on a limited budget our practice was limited.  Most of our training time was with a .22 rimfire.  That is still a good option.

Thirty years back I got a new neighbor.  Frank was a hunting and fishing fanatic who was retired.  During his younger adult days he hunted the Utah, Colorado, Idaho, and California seasons.  Depending on the season dates he would hunt all four states in the same year.  In the 1950 and 1960 era some of the States offered up to 4 tags per hunter.  Frank all he could and filled them.  His wife and him lived will on low fat deer meat.

Frank had thick photo albums documenting his hunts.  The most common rifle in the album was his Savage 99 in .300 Savage.  Frank gun collect grew over the years and he had a number of centerfire rifles.  They ranged from the .222, 270 Winchester up to the H&H 375.

Frank had more then one 300 Savage in his collection.  He and I went to Big Gun Show in Reno, NV one year.  It is the largest gun show I have been to, it is huge!  We went or different ways in the show planning to meet up at noon for lunch.  When Frank showed up he had a Savage 99, in 300 Savage.
http://www.bigrenoshow.com/

When we went deer hunting Frank carried a 300 Savage, and the other rifles stayed home.

There is one business not far from me that carries a limited stock of centerfire rifle ammunition.  They carry 30-06, 30-30, .223, and 45-70.  That is all they carry.  Another store stocks 30-06, 30-30, 270 Winchester, and 223.  This leaves out a lot of common calibers including the .308. (I am surprised.)

A few years ago I picked up four boxes of 150-grain Remington-Peters Cor Lokt in fancy boxes.  I have most of a box of 180-grain factory Sivertips that must have come from Dad’s when we closed the house.  I have seen the ammunition on the shelves of what I called a real gunshop.  As an owner of a .300 Savage I would plan ahead. 
My hunting partners laughed at me years ago when I showed up in camp with a hundred rounds of reloads in a big plastic box.  They now except it because I do that no manner what cartridge I am using.  One season I slide down an icy slope with the Remington 722 as result of a hard fall.  The turret of the scope was damaged.  I replaced the scope with a new one, which required re-sighting the rifle.  The 722 held up fine.

I was snared by wire and fill when carrying another rifle.  The hard fall resulted in another damaged scope, and more ammunition expended.

I was recently talking to one of my hunting partners regarding the current ammunition shortage.  He hunts with a 30-06.  He is a reloader who has not had the time to reload because of business demands.  He has been picking up a box of 30-06 shells on a regulars base.  When he has found a good sale he has bought more then one box.  This way the cost is not prohibitive, and he is not worried about the shortage. 

My Dad had followed the same pattern with his 300 Savage and the 32 Special years ago.  Every few months a new box or two of shells would show up in the storeroom.  Not being a reloader should not be an issue.

The only issue I see is that you are trading a rifle you like.  If you are like me you might enjoy the new rifle, but mourn the missing rifle.  I mourn my 30-06.

*Bench rest shooters sought the 722 actions in the past.








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Re: a remington 722 for a new england surviver???
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2009, 08:03:13 AM »
So, the votes are in and the talley goes to the Remington 722. Post some pics after the dust settles? ;)

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