Author Topic: Buffalo Classic fitted to TC frame.....w/pics (Read 1855 times)

brennemanj83 · « **on:** March 30, 2009, 11:22:48 AM »

Well here its is my Buffalo Classic barrel fitted to my Target Classic frame.

A knife I got for my Birthday before I even had a 45-70

A few I have loaded up..........Waiting for my other brass to get here so I can get some more loaded up and head to the range.
Right to Left......425gr GC Ranch Dog....500gr Lee #459-500R.....and 500gr Hoch all loaded with H4198

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** March 30, 2009, 11:28:09 AM »

Lookin good Jon!! Range report...range report....

Tim

bajabill · « **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2009, 11:31:47 AM »

is the brass on the left shorter than the others, or just a result of photography?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #3 on:** March 30, 2009, 11:33:39 AM »

Hornady LE brass maybe? Or Jon got carried away with his new trimmer!!

Tim

brennemanj83 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 30, 2009, 11:34:57 AM »

Quote from: bajabill on March 30, 2009, 11:31:47 AM

is the brass on the left shorter than the others, or just a result of photography?

It is....Its a hornady leverevolution case.Dont know why but they are shorter....just like the 444 Marlins.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #5 on:** March 30, 2009, 11:37:12 AM »

It's shorter so it can be crimped and still cycle with the longer pointy bullet.

Tim

brennemanj83 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 30, 2009, 11:39:05 AM »

Quote from: quickdtoo on March 30, 2009, 11:37:12 AM

It's shorter so it can be crimped and still cycle with the longer pointy bullet.

Tim

Thats what I thought but wasnt for sure.

Chas. · « **Reply #7 on:** March 30, 2009, 12:32:09 PM »

That one on the right looks like it has a bit of a wrinkle in it. Maybe you had the die set for the LE brass and had another brand in the press?

brennemanj83 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 30, 2009, 12:52:41 PM »

Quote from: Chas. on March 30, 2009, 12:32:09 PM

That one on the right looks like it has a bit of a wrinkle in it. Maybe you had the die set for the LE brass and had another brand in the press?

Nope its not wrinkled.It is an older case that has the cannuler that runs around the case.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #9 on:** March 30, 2009, 01:14:39 PM »

That's not a wrinkle,THIS is a wrinkle( ala Crocodile Dundee)!!

Tim

burntmuch · « **Reply #10 on:** March 30, 2009, 01:35:12 PM »

I like the 45/70 on the knife handle

Lon371 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 30, 2009, 02:18:06 PM »

Very nice rifle and knife.

Lonny

AtlLaw · « **Reply #12 on:** March 30, 2009, 03:14:59 PM »

COOL!!

I'll let you shoot mine if you let me shoot yours!

brennemanj83 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 30, 2009, 03:18:16 PM »

Quote from: AtlLaw on March 30, 2009, 03:14:59 PM

COOL!!

I'll let you shoot mine if you let me shoot yours!

OK........................I'm ready

JerryKo · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2009, 12:56:28 AM »

WHoa....I had Thompson Center on my brain, and thought you did a conversion to a "TC" frame. I know I'm not the only one.

Looks good! Beaut of a knife there.

Jerry

petemi · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2009, 02:16:01 AM »

Jerry, you weren't the onlyest one

A very nice couple!!

Pete

Blackhawker · « **Reply #16 on:** March 31, 2009, 04:32:18 AM »

HA!! I was thinking the same thing! I saw the photo and asked myself, "OK, very nice....now where is that Thompson frame?" (Oh yeah, TC...Target Classic!)

Looks great nonetheless! I like the knife handle....nice touch!

Question, do you have any problems chambering that 500 Hoch? It looks as if the ogive is a little high on the bullet and I recently ran into a problem chambering bullets with a higher ogive and those that are near .452-4 inches near the chamber mouth. They end up jamming into the lands and cannot be fully chambered. I guess this is the classic "throating" issue that so many of you have talked about on other threads???

Anyway, nice rifle and knife rig!

brennemanj83 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2009, 04:46:45 AM »

Quote from: Blackhawker on March 31, 2009, 04:32:18 AM

HA!! I was thinking the same thing! I saw the photo and asked myself, "OK, very nice....now where is that Thompson frame?" (Oh yeah, TC...Target Classic!)

Looks great nonetheless! I like the knife handle....nice touch!

Question, do you have any problems chambering that 500 Hoch? It looks as if the ogive is a little high on the bullet and I recently ran into a problem chambering bullets with a higher ogive and those that are near .452-4 inches near the chamber mouth. They end up jamming into the lands and cannot be fully chambered. I guess this is the classic "throating" issue that so many of you have talked about on other threads???

Anyway, nice rifle and knife rig!

I have no trouble chambering the 500gr Hoch.Maybe I just got lucky or its possible the barrel has been throated.I cant wait for my other brass to get here.At the moment I only have 15 rds of brass and I;ve got another 100 on the way.Anybody wanna recomend any loads for me to try?

Blackhawker · « **Reply #18 on:** March 31, 2009, 05:06:23 AM »

I've been using IMR-4198 and IMR-3031 and have had some decent results with them. However, I'm still pretty new to the BC and the 45-70. I've found that some rounds need a polyester wad added and some don't...and the added fill in the cartridge does vary in the accuracy you get. For example, a load with "X" gains of a powder without the wad might shoot moderately well, but add the wad and it shoots very well.....or visa versa. I have found that there is a lot of tinkering to do with this round and I haven't quite found the perfect load yet. You might ask some of the 45-70 veterans here for loads: Tim (quickdtoo), Petemi, AtlLaw to name a few.

Good luck with your rifle and enjoy!

PHATINJUN · « **Reply #19 on:** March 31, 2009, 06:02:14 AM »

I've used quite a lot of 5744 from 25 to 40 grains depending on bullet weights. Have been happy with results. Accurate has a lot of published data on the 5744 powder. Kurt

Blackhawker · « **Reply #20 on:** March 31, 2009, 08:15:11 AM »

Jon,
Quick question: What did you do with the 38-55 barrel from your Target Classic?

brennemanj83 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 31, 2009, 08:24:09 AM »

Quote from: Blackhawker on March 31, 2009, 08:15:11 AM

Jon,
Quick question: What did you do with the 38-55 barrel from your Target Classic?

I sent it off to have the chamber opened up.

Blackhawker · « **Reply #22 on:** March 31, 2009, 10:34:46 AM »

Quote from: brennemanj83 on March 31, 2009, 08:24:09 AM

Quote from: Blackhawker on March 31, 2009, 08:15:11 AM
Jon,
Quick question: What did you do with the 38-55 barrel from your Target Classic?

I sent it off to have the chamber opened up.

OK, so you're keeping it then. (Geez, I feel like a vulture....but if I didn't ask, someone else would have)

You'll like that barrel. I really enjoy my 38-55. It's accurate, fun to shoot, and easy on the shoulder. You sort of get the fun of an old big bore caliber like the 45-70 (both in loading it and shooting it) but you can shoot it all day long and then some.

brennemanj83 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 31, 2009, 10:55:57 AM »

Yes I will be keeping the 38-55 barrel as it is one of the calibers I am quite fond of.Along with the 30-30,32-40,40-65,and 32-20 just to name a few.