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one more miniature cannon builder.
« on: March 31, 2009, 02:59:35 PM »
Take a look at these mini cannons.


http://craftsmanshipmuseum.com/Rivera.htm

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Re: one more miniature cannon builder.
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2009, 03:21:15 PM »
 Those mini's are very nice, Thanks for sharing.
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Re: one more miniature cannon builder.
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2009, 03:34:41 PM »
Yeah I also though so.. These are my favorite..










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Re: one more miniature cannon builder.
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2009, 03:38:50 PM »
 Ed, believe it or not, i picked that Chinese Falconet as #1 too.
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Re: one more miniature cannon builder.
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2009, 03:39:43 PM »
evil minds think alike... ;D

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Re: one more miniature cannon builder.
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2009, 03:42:35 PM »
 I'm tempted to try and make one like it.
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Re: one more miniature cannon builder.
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2009, 03:57:19 PM »
1/4 Scale ... That's the ticket..

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Re: one more miniature cannon builder.
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2009, 04:06:57 PM »
I am awstruck! Fantastic work.

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Re: one more miniature cannon builder.
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2009, 04:59:20 PM »
Thanks for the thread Caz, this man crafts some fine miniature pieces.



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Re: one more miniature cannon builder.
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2009, 05:30:12 PM »
I went to the home page of the "Internet Craftsmanship Museum" and ogled around a bit, I thought that George, Mike and Tracy, Victor and some of the other machinists here might enjoy this (and anyone else for that matter, I'm not a machinist and I was interested, heck, I was more than interested, files are all that I have to shape metal).





"Who made this project and why?
The project shown above exhibits mastery in metalworking. Each hand-fitted piece is machined and filed to such close tolerances that you can barely see the joints when assembled. It does not appear to have any function other than to be a test of a craftsman's skill, perhaps at the end of an apprenticeship program or in order to qualify to be hired for a particular job. The sad part is, it was purchased for $.50 at a swap meet in Clairemont, CA by Tom Boyer's wife and given to Tom as a curiosity. The name of the original craftsman is no longer identified with the project, and his family obviously had no appreciation for its history or the high level of skill needed to create it. It was sold off as so much junk. This is one of the reasons the Joe Martin Foundation was started; that is, to honor this type of work and the craftsman who created it.

Don't let this happen to your work. If you have projects that exhibit a high level of skill, don't assume that members of your family or your friends understand or appreciate what went into making it. It may end up on eBay or at a swap meet like this beautiful project. We ask that you consider donating your work to the Craftsmanship Museum while you are alive and can take advantage of the tax benefit for the value of the donation, or add a codicil to your will specifying it be donated to the Foundation upon your death. That way, a record of your skill will be preserved to inspire future craftsmen, and your name and your story will be forever identified with your work. Do a search on eBay for "steam engine" and see how many projects that are for sale there identify the builder. The answer is, almost none. It is our goal to reverse that trend and to honor the most skilled and creative people in our society—the craftsmen".
RIP John. While on vacation July 4th 2013 in northern Wisconsin, he was ATVing with family and pulled ahead of everyone and took off at break-neck speed without a helmet. He lost control.....hit a tree....and the tree won.  He died instantly.

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Re: one more miniature cannon builder.
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2009, 03:38:20 AM »
 That's an interesting piece Boom J.

 I agree, it looks similar to some trade/gunsmithing school projects I've seen. I'm sure M&T will chime in, because it's got more than one feature used on the Brooke rifle.  :)
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Re: one more miniature cannon builder.
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2009, 05:36:05 PM »
That's an interesting piece Boom J.

 I agree, it looks similar to some trade/gunsmithing school projects I've seen. I'm sure M&T will chime in, because it's got more than one feature used on the Brooke rifle.  :)

When I first saw this, I just thought that some of the machinists on the board might find it interesting, but now that you mention it, this piece does appear to have some similarities with operations that M&T may have used in making their treble banded Brooke rifle.
RIP John. While on vacation July 4th 2013 in northern Wisconsin, he was ATVing with family and pulled ahead of everyone and took off at break-neck speed without a helmet. He lost control.....hit a tree....and the tree won.  He died instantly.

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Re: one more miniature cannon builder.
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2009, 09:29:55 AM »
Boom J

dont underestimate files as a tool to shape metal . many people does this days .
when I started my mechanical education we had 17 weeks of bench work the first semester .
the only tools we used was files , emery cloth and a vise .
it takes some time but you can do almost anything with just a few files .
Dan Pettersson
a swedish cannon maniac
interested in early bronze guns

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Re: one more miniature cannon builder.
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2009, 02:26:54 PM »
Oh, believe me when I say, I'm not underestimating what can be accomplished with only files and abrasives. All the hardware (mostly steel, some brass) on the solid bed naval carriage I recently finished was done by hand. I'm now doing some work (the machinist that made the barrel didn't exactly bring it to a high degree of finish) on the steel .50 cal. barrell that the carriage was made for. I've still got to make the base, block and tackle, and complete the work on the implements; when everything is done, I'll post photos of this project on the board.

RIP John. While on vacation July 4th 2013 in northern Wisconsin, he was ATVing with family and pulled ahead of everyone and took off at break-neck speed without a helmet. He lost control.....hit a tree....and the tree won.  He died instantly.

The one thing that you can almost always rely on research leading to, is more research.