Author Topic: It really is in the water... (Read 2012 times)

Matt · « **on:** April 03, 2009, 11:05:44 PM »

23 published studies report an association of reduced IQ
with high fluoride exposure

http://fluoridealert.org/iq.studies.html

Matt

stubshaft · « **Reply #1 on:** April 03, 2009, 11:11:26 PM »

So you're saying that we will have morons with gleaming white teeth running around? I think I've seen them...Congress!

Elijah Gunn · « **Reply #2 on:** April 04, 2009, 04:28:57 AM »

I remember as a kid in 2nd grade (1969) the school gave us all fluoride treatments. They packed our cheeks full of cotton which was held in by some metal clips,and then put a fluoride paste all over our teeth.
The "old ladies" who did that to us looked like they could have been concentration camp guards.LOL

Sourdough · « **Reply #3 on:** April 04, 2009, 06:30:29 AM »

Yea, looks like the same pack of women that came to my school and gave us our shots.

OR-E-Gun Bill · « **Reply #4 on:** April 04, 2009, 06:42:49 AM »

Ever noticed how you can remember things from your childhood, yet today you can't recall what you had for lunch yesterday?
Our school nurse Miss Buerkenbihl, a very sturdy woman, who resembled Sgt. Schultz, was our dispensing agent...

Bill

Skunk · « **Reply #5 on:** April 04, 2009, 07:12:33 AM »

Quote from: OR-E-Gun Bill on April 04, 2009, 06:42:49 AM

Our school nurse Miss Buerkenbihl, a very sturdy woman, who resembled Sgt. Schultz, was our dispensing agent...

We had one of those too, Bill. She was built like a refrigerator with a head.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #6 on:** April 04, 2009, 05:02:48 PM »

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Ever noticed how you can remember things from your childhood, yet today you can't recall what you had for lunch yesterday?

Hey I look thru the previous post from yesterday and see one that I made and open it and see what I said!

Brett · « **Reply #7 on:** April 04, 2009, 05:10:11 PM »

Quote from: Oldshooter on April 04, 2009, 05:02:48 PM

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Ever noticed how you can remember things from your childhood, yet today you can't recall what you had for lunch yesterday?

Hey I look thru the previous post from yesterday and see one that I made and open it and see what I said!

Damn!... I was going to comment on the original topic but I have forgotten what it is.

Matt · « **Reply #8 on:** June 10, 2009, 10:16:10 AM »

I cant help but wonder why this topic never got any response?... How many of you put fluoride in your body everyday?

Matt

Matt · « **Reply #9 on:** June 10, 2009, 10:27:18 AM »

Does your water have fluoride in it... find out here at the CDC.

Mine does not... GB is in the clear also...

http://apps.nccd.cdc.gov/MWF/Index.asp

Matt

Skunk · « **Reply #10 on:** June 10, 2009, 10:42:13 AM »

It appears that where I currently live, they do add fluoride to the water

Water source: Ground

Water system type: Community

Does this water system supply fluoridated water?

Yes. This water system adjusts the natural fluoride concentration upward to the optimal level for the prevention of dental caries (cavities).

Optimal fluoride concentration: 1.10 mg/L

Date fluoridation started: March 1, 1966

This water system is under the jurisdiction of: State of Wisconsin

For further information, contact:

Division of Public Health
1 W. Wilson Street
PO Box 2659
Madison, WI 53701-2659
(608) 266-5152
lemaywr@dhfs.state.wi.us

Oldshooter · « **Reply #11 on:** June 10, 2009, 11:09:48 AM »

Nope, No flouride here unless its leaking in from the septic system where I spit my toothpaste drool!

billy_56081 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 10, 2009, 12:46:28 PM »

Good thing I was raised in the country on well water.

slim rem 7 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 10, 2009, 01:46:38 PM »

well water here..

Elijah Gunn · « **Reply #14 on:** June 10, 2009, 05:39:12 PM »

Is there anything that can help remove, or reverse the effects of having sodium floride in your body?

DDZ · « **Reply #15 on:** June 10, 2009, 11:46:40 PM »

I have been drinking well water all my life, but I do remember my parents taking me to the dentist for floride treatments when I was a kid.

Glanceblamm · « **Reply #16 on:** June 11, 2009, 01:08:16 AM »

Quote from: Elijah Gunn on April 04, 2009, 04:28:57 AM

I remember as a kid in 2nd grade (1969) the school gave us all fluoride treatments. They packed our cheeks full of cotton which was held in by some metal clips,and then put a fluoride paste all over our teeth.
The "old ladies" who did that to us looked like they could have been concentration camp guards.LOL

Quote from: Sourdough on April 04, 2009, 06:30:29 AM

Yea, looks like the same pack of women that came to my school and gave us our shots.

I remember these women...they are now 109 years old and still on the move

Elijah Gunn · « **Reply #17 on:** June 11, 2009, 01:24:07 AM »

It's probably been since the movie "Dr. Strangelove" that people dismiss the idea of fluoride as being something to be concerned about. I'd still like to know if there is anyway to heal,or reverse whatever bad stuff it does to a person. I'm on well water now,and try to avoid it in toothpaste.

FourBee · « **Reply #18 on:** June 11, 2009, 06:32:07 AM »

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Is there anything that can help remove, or reverse the effects of having sodium floride in your body?

Nope! nadda

Matt · « **Reply #19 on:** June 11, 2009, 07:37:52 AM »

Quote from: Elijah Gunn on June 10, 2009, 05:39:12 PM

Is there anything that can help remove, or reverse the effects of having sodium floride in your body?

Nothing that I have found...
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Most people are aware that there is a controversy surrounding public fluoridation of drinking water. Here is a list of ways to obtain drinking water without fluoride. In addition, I've listed water purification methods which do not remove fluoride from water.

Ways to Remove Fluoride from Water
Reverse Osmosis Filtration
This is used to purify several types of bottled water (not all), so some bottled waters are unfluoridated. Reverse osmosis systems are generally unaffordable for personal use.

Activated Alumina Defluoridation Filter
These filters are used in locales where fluorosis is prevalent. They are relatively expensive (lowest price I saw was $30/filter) and require frequent replacement, but do offer an option for home water filtration.

Distillation Filtration
There are commercially available distillation filters that can be purchased to remove fluoride from water. On a related note: When looking at bottled water, keep in mind that 'distilled water' does not imply that a product is suitable for drinking water and other undesirable impurities may be present.

These Do NOT Remove Fluoride
Brita, Pur, and most other filters.
Some websites about fluoride removal state otherwise, but I checked the product descriptions on the companies' websites to confirm that fluoride is left in the water.

Boiling Water
This will concentrate the fluoride rather than reduce it.

Freezing Water
Freezing water does not affect the concentration of fluoride.

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Steps to Reduce Fluoride Exposure
Don't take fluoride supplements.

Read labels on bottled beverages.
Unless they are made using distilled or reverse-osmosis water, they are probably made with fluoridated public water.

Consider using unfluoridated toothpaste.

Avoid drinking black or red tea.
They come from two different types of plants, but both leaves naturally contain high amounts of fluorine.

Be wary of tinned fish and canned food items.
Fluoride may be used as a preservative.

Avoid black or red rock salt
or items containing black or red rock salt.

Avoid using chewing tobacco.

Avoid long term use of medication that contains fluorine.
Certain antidepressants and medications for osteoporosis contain fluorine.

Matt

Elijah Gunn · « **Reply #20 on:** June 11, 2009, 07:42:51 AM »

Thanks Matt, and FourBee

squirrellluck · « **Reply #21 on:** June 11, 2009, 02:34:33 PM »

What about natural floride According to a dentist years ago he told me he knew I was from Louisiana because of the amount of floride on my teeth. Said there was high levels of natural floride in our water. And I grew up on a farm with a well

FourBee · « **Reply #22 on:** June 11, 2009, 04:22:25 PM »

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squirrellluck
What about natural floride According to a dentist years ago he told me he knew I was from Louisiana because of the amount of floride on my teeth. Said there was high levels of natural floride in our water. And I grew up on a farm with a well

Supposedly natural fluoride is not toxic to the body.

p.s. there are all kinds of fluorides, but this is what is added to your drinking water____hexafluorosilicic acid .
Fluoride cannot generally be labeled as toxic, but there are combinations with certain salts that are.
It is documented that 4grams of fluoride is lethal.

Swampman · « **Reply #23 on:** June 11, 2009, 04:32:12 PM »

Floride doesn't hurt a thing. It keeps your teeth from rotting out. All flouride is natural. It comes from the earth.

Only a moron would remove the flouride from their drinking water.

http://www.acsh.org/healthissues/newsID.724/healthissue_detail.asp

billy_56081 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 11, 2009, 04:43:29 PM »

ONe of the places I service has water that is filtered so pure that drinking it as your main source of hydration will kill you.

Matt · « **Reply #25 on:** June 11, 2009, 05:42:54 PM »

Quote from: Swampman on June 11, 2009, 04:32:12 PM

Floride doesn't hurt a thing. It keeps your teeth from rotting out. All flouride is natural. It comes from the earth.

Only a moron would remove the flouride from their drinking water.

http://www.acsh.org/healthissues/newsID.724/healthissue_detail.asp

Next time before spouting off at the mouth on a topic that you have obviously never done one once of real research on DONT...

Then get a real source that is not funded by:

ACSH funders have included the following:
ALCOA Foundation
Allied Signals Foundation, Inc.
American Cyanamid Company
American Meat Institute
Amoco Foundation, Inc.
Anheuser-Busch Foundation
Archer Daniels Midland Company
Ashland Oil Foundation
Boise Cascade Corporation
Bristol-Myers Fund, Inc.
Burger King Corporation
Campbell Soup Company
Carnation Company
Chevron Environmental Health Center
Ciba-Geigy Corporation
Coca-Cola Company
Consolidated Edison
Cooper Industries Foundation
Adolph Coors Foundation
Crystal Trust
Shelby Cullum Davis Foundation
Dow Chemical Canada, Inc.
Dow Corning Corporation
E.I. Du Pont de Nemours & Company
Ethyl Corporation
Exxon Corporation
FMC Foundation
Ford Motor Company Fund
Frito-Lay
General Electric Foundation
General Mills, Inc.
General Motors Foundation
Gerber Products Company
Rollin M. Gerstacker Foundation
Hershey Foods Corporation Fund
Heublein, Inc.
ICI Americas Inc.
Johnson & Johnson
Johnson's Wax Fund, Inc.
Kellogg Company
Ester A. and Joseph Klingenstein Fund, Inc.
David H. Koch Charitable Foundation
Kraft Foundation
Kraft General Foods (now part of Altria Group)
Licensed Beverage Information Council
Thomas J. Lipton Foundation, Inc.
M&M Mars
Merck Company Foundation
Mobil Foundation, Inc.
Monsanto Fund
National Agricultural Chemicals Association
National Dairy Council
National Soft Drink Association
National Starch and Chemical Foundation
Nestlé
Samuel Roberts Nobel Foundation, Inc.
Northwood Institute
NutraSweet Company
John M. Olin Foundation Inc.
Oscar Mayer Foods
Pepsico Foundation Inc. (Pepsi-Cola)
Pfizer Inc.
Pillsbury Company
PPG Industries Foundation
Procter & Gamble Fund
Ralston Purina
Rohm & Haas Company
Salt Institute
Sarah Scaife Foundation, Inc.
Schultz Foundation
G.D. Searle Charitable Trust
Joseph E. Seagrams & Sons, Inc.
Shell Oil Company Foundation
Stare Fund
Starr Foundation
Sterling Drug, Inc.
Stouffer Company
Stroh Brewery Company
Sugar Association, Inc.
Sun Company, Inc.
Syntex Corporation
Union Carbide Corporation
Uniroyal Chemical Co.
USX Corp.
Warner-Lambert Foundation
Wine Growers of California

According to ACSH, some of its funding from the food industry dried up after those companies were acquired by Philip Morris, which does not like the position that ACSH has taken against tobacco. "ACSH's warnings about cigarette smoking resulted in the loss of substantial contributions from food manufacturers that had been acquired by tobacco companies. A metal pipe manufacturer withdrew its support after ACSH defended the safety of the proper use of plastic pipes," ACSH states on its website. [14]

Capital Research Center reports grants from:
Abbott Laboratories
Bristol-Myers Squibb
Exxon Mobil
McDonalds
Chevron
Eastman Kodak
3M
DuPont[15]

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Oh now don’t you know that these guys all have our best interest at heart... whatever...

Source: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=American_Council_on_Science_and_Health

But after you having posted that comment... reading all your other posts... I now think we can close the case on this one because there is no doubt in my mind now... Fluoride reduces intelligence levels...
Matt

Swampman · « **Reply #26 on:** June 12, 2009, 01:29:10 AM »

Flouride is a great thing. It will not harm you. It will keep your teeth from falling out. My brothers grew up on well water. They have dentures. I grew up on city water. I have all of my teeth and they are perfect.

newstart2k · « **Reply #27 on:** June 12, 2009, 05:32:05 AM »

So Matt,

If I understand you and SM correctly. I can choose to be pretty and stupid or dentured and smart. Is that a succinct enough synopsis of the positions?

Newstart2k

Swampman · « **Reply #28 on:** June 12, 2009, 06:12:34 AM »

You don't have to choose. Flouride isn't harmful.

Skunk · « **Reply #29 on:** June 12, 2009, 06:32:39 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on April 04, 2009, 03:30:53 AM

"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual`s power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. [A convenient light lobotomy]

Well, there it is. Fluoride has to be the reason why the wife (hen) can have her way with me at the drop of hat without me having any say in the matter. I'm being dominated and it's because I used toothpaste with fluoride. Oh well, guess there's nothing I can do about it. I'll just have to put up with the abuse.