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Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« on: April 05, 2009, 01:18:14 AM »
I have a Marlin 60, and as others have stated, its picky on ammo and sometimes jams.  I would like to pick up another rifle in semi-auto and invite any comments or opinions as to which one is the most dependable.  I realize that the most accurate may not be the most dependable and all that.  But, I need a place to start and figured you all would'nt mind offering some advice.  Thanks, in advance, to all who post on this thread.

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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2009, 01:56:36 AM »
  I have a '60's made Remington Nylon 66 that I can't remember it ever jamming. And I used to shoot it fast when I was a kid in the New Mexico desert. Very fine firearm, too bad they ceased production in the 80's. I think Remington's current line is dandy as well i.e.- the model 597

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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2009, 02:13:47 AM »
Ruger 10/22.  I have a Mannlicher version taht I picked up in the late 70's.  I've used it to train young shooter to shoot silhouette and for general plinking.  Takes a licking and keeps on ticking...  No add ons other than a beat up Simmons shotgun scope (50yd parallax)
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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2009, 02:22:00 AM »
I agree with the replies you have already.  I have a Nylon 66 that has never jammed and a couple of modified 10-22s that have never given me any trouble either even though they have match chambers.  I also did have a Marlin Model 60 that neither the factory or my local smith could fiigure out how to make work.  Lots of folks have good luck with them, and when it worked I liked it.  But I prefer the 10-22s.
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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2009, 02:49:53 AM »
10-22 ruger. prolly one of the most sold rifles ever. 8)
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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2009, 04:06:12 AM »
Any of you Ruger guys ever use the aftermarket Hi-Cap mags in those?  Do those plastic mags hold up and feed OK?
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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2009, 05:00:37 AM »
Ruger 10-22.  Clean it every 2 or 3 thousand rounds and you're good to go!

I have a Ram-line extended mag that's been reliable so far, only had it for about a year so can't say how it will hold up in the long run.

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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2009, 06:46:34 AM »
I have several 10-22s no problems, I shoot only sub sonics. They feed well. I have heard you need to get the steel lip magazines. I do not have any all of mine are plastic lips and no malfunctions. Stock for stock the marlin is more accurate than a 10-22. At the least a 10-22 needs a target hammer to be equal. Add a bull barrel and enlarge stock channel or buy a new one and you have less than 1 moa.

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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2009, 02:21:00 PM »
  Some of us don't like to have to use a clip in a 22, and my Remington 552 has been about the most reliable 22 i've ever owned.  It has sat out in the barn for years, (more than 10) never cleaned, and when i pick it up and pull the trigger it's still 100% reliable...

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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2009, 04:34:15 PM »
I have also used and own a Rem. 552.  It is a very reliable gun and can shoot short, longs(if you can find any) and long rifles in it.  I have had one from the 60"s and completely forgot about it as I have been shooting the 10/22 and my Marlin 39 (a lever action that I have had for over 40 years).
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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2009, 03:26:32 AM »
  Best part is, the 552 doesn't sit in your hands like a bloated beeched whale, like the 10/22 does!  Yes i have one of those too, but i hate the way it feels when your carrying it...

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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2009, 07:59:23 AM »
Any of you Ruger guys ever use the aftermarket Hi-Cap mags in those?  Do those plastic mags hold up and feed OK?

I have several cheap model hi-cap mags that the only problem I have had out of them is when I drop one and break it.  I also a 50 round drum for my 10-22 the only problem I had out of it was you have to break it in.  The first time I shot it it would not feed correctly.  I had like 15 jams so I went straight back to my dealer to tell him about it and he said you had to shoot it a few times before working properly.  no problems since.

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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2009, 08:06:38 AM »
I have a little Belgian made Browning that my dad left me. It loads thru the stock and shoots lights out and has never jammed! Don't know the model number right off but I can check it. Its a "bottom feeder" and bottom ejector. I Think those are made in Japan Now, but they are real nice shooters.
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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2009, 11:27:43 AM »
I believe the Nylon 66 to be the most reliable .22 semiauto ever made.  I too had one that I never experienced a jam with and would shoot longs just as well as the long rifles.  I also had a Browning Auto that I never had a jam with and was a sweet little rifle.  It shot very well as long as you kept the barrel nut adjusted so that it would just barely make it to the latch position.

I never had any of the Winchester autos so I can't speak from experience about them.  I did have a nice Marlin 99DL that was a pretty gun and accurate but jammed a lot on me and I traded it off.  I have a Remington 550-1 now and so far it has not jammed and is plenty accurate.  I don't shoot it much because I prefer bolt guns.

I forgot, I have the obligatory 1022 as well.  It is a Clark Custom and is very accurate, but again stays pretty much in the safe. 

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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2009, 02:02:30 PM »
  Those old Brownings, ARE pretty neat...  Here's mine that i've had since the 70's...







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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2009, 02:16:57 PM »
The only semi-auto 22s I've ever owned were Ruger 10/22s, so I can't really compare them to other semi-autos, but they never gave me any problems and they were all very accurate and tons of fun.
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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2009, 02:22:45 PM »
  Those old Brownings, ARE pretty neat...  Here's mine that i've had since the 70's...







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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2009, 08:02:17 PM »
Most dependable for me has been my High Standard/JC Higgins Mod 31 I got brand new as a kid about 50 years ago.   Still as new and never misses a beat.

Opinions vary... I've had six 10/22's, all but one were not up to the standards set by the Model 31, and that includes the current one with about $800-$900 sunk into it (not including scope).
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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2009, 02:57:32 AM »
 I know of one 'least dependable' that's probably good to stay away from; the Savage Model 6.

 My Dad bought one (Sears model) for $2 in the 60's. It was probably worth $1. I liked the way the bolt stayed open until the trigger was released. You could look into the port and see if another round was ready to go. Pops probably put about $300 worth of labor into getting it working, and it did work - until it got dirty. After that, it would often go full-auto for several rounds until it jammed. As a kid, I thought that was pretty cool.

 Dad thought it was slightly less cool for some reason...
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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2009, 05:13:11 AM »
Oldshooter & Drilling Man, I am old enough to remember seeing and being able to buy one of those Browning models for 100 bucks. I could have afforded it but thought that this was quite high for a .22 at that time.
I could have kicked myself years latter for not having done so but this is true with a lot of things. In the mean time, I continue to shoot my 66.

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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2009, 05:24:32 AM »
Well I probably would not have one had MY old dad not passed it on to me! They are a expensive now.

Funny how things go, I passed on a new 66 once and have lived to regret that!   ;)
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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2009, 06:59:29 AM »
  Back in the 70's, my brother owed me $100.00, and he offered me the above Browning to pay his debt, and i took it...  Of course it didn't look then like it does now...

  I've had a couple of those nylon 66's back when they were new, they just weren't my cup of tea...  Instead i kept the little Anschutz sporter i bought new for around $90.00, and i still have it...   8)

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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2009, 07:19:08 AM »
Marlin 70 carbine, det mag fed version of Mdl 60, feeds anything very well.
My dad has a 30 yr old mdl 60, it has always fed better with only about 8 or 9 to start in the tube, but still not perfect.
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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2009, 11:45:18 AM »
I have three Reminton 66's and one 10/22. I had the 66's first and bought the 10/22 later because I was seduced by the availability of after market add ons. One was enough to teach me my lesson. The Ruger will always be in the 66's shade.

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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2009, 12:46:39 PM »
Saved my change and put it in a jar. When I had enough money I took the change and bought a Browning 22 with it (114.00). With tax it was 117.00. I gave it to my son and it is just like new. Still have the box it came in. It has always been as dependable as any I have ever owned.

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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2009, 02:30:42 PM »
I owned a Rem Nylon 66 and now own a ruger 10/22.  Wish I had never sold the 66!
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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2009, 03:03:16 PM »
I owned several variations of the Nylon 66 and they were fine plinkers, but not as good for using with a scope.  The stocks were susceptable to side pressure and would shoot to the opposite side.  Never had one misfeed, though.  

The only problems I had with misfires was with some Filipine ammo that had a brittle primer mixture and would break away from the rim.  I had several rifles made by the same company.  They were crude and full of filings, but cleaned up, they worked well.

I bought a JC Higgins that was made by Winchester as the 190.  I paid $5 at a yard sale, as it was missing the rear sight.  The owner told me it shot slow, and I could not figure out what he meant until I test-fired it.  The bolt just crept along.  I must have cleaned a handful of fouling out of the action.  A Williams gib-lock sight and I was in business.  It fed reliably and shot quite accurately.  Money sell spent.

Kmart had some Chinese knockoffs of the Browning Auto and I got one.  The machining on the barrel nut was sloppy and I had trouble tightening it.  I gave it to my brother and he still uses it.  Shot all the Long Rifle I put through it and would also cycle Longs, for what that was worth.

I currently have a Ruger 10-22 and it had a horrible trigger, about 20 pounds or more.  After a little work and some drop-in parts, it shoots really well.  I mounted a laser sight on it and it is my after-dark varmint getter.  The only feed problem I ever had was fixed by cleaning the magazine.  The stock is clunky and if I reach for a woods loafing rifle, it is my BL-22, because it carries so well.

If I were in the market for another .22 auto, I think I would look at Ruger first, then at some used ones.  Most of the problems I have ever seen with auto's could be taken care of by a good cleaning.  The reason I would pick Ruger is the wealth of aftermarket offerings.  Among used guns, a Remington 552 would be a great find, and so would a Weatherby.  

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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2009, 11:08:50 PM »
I once shot a friend's auto loader, I think it was an old Remington but looked just like those little Brownings. Anyway, those autos that dump the empties straight down can be a bother if the hot shells go down your sleeve.  I remember having several empties do that to me.  I don't much care for autos but  the Ruger has proved reliable.  I do have an old Nylon 66 but prefer my bolts and levers. My kids like the full size and very light wt of the 66. But I don't like how hard it is to be sure the magazine and gun is fully unloaded, or the spray and pray attitude so many kids get with their hands on a auto. My boys hunt with single shot bolts tho I finally gave the 11 yr old the 5 shot clip for his CZ scout.
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Re: Opinions Please...Most Dependable Semi-Auto 22 Rifle
« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2009, 05:35:27 AM »
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« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2009, 11:13:05 AM »
I know guys that swear by ther old winchester 63's the new taurus replicas im not so shure about?
Ive seen them and handled one out the box but never fired one.
The Taurus 72 I have is amazeingly caaurate for a .22mag pump if its any indication of expected accuracy from ther semiauto (knock off of a browning butt fed semiauto model63)
I have a remington Nylon 66 that's reliable and accurate (hate that stupid fragile plastic bolt handle).
have a project remington 552 thats in the works have a 522 Viper thats definately not a nylon 66!

Ive had semi auto .22's, some shot great and some would have if not messed with like a model 110 calico that had mag trouble(previouse owner tinkerd with it) had a Tec.22 that was a hoot and ended up mounting a laser sight turned into a real good gun (problem with finding mags) previous owner had lost one the two mags it came with, so I had one good 10 rounder, ruger 10/22 mags dident work! I ended up tradeing it off for cash.
Was privlaged to shoot a 511 Brno semi auto .22 was nice & accurate.
Had a Spanish made Star 110 semiauto rifle shot ok with certain types ammo.
Ruger 10/22's are good but need tweaking off the getgo messing with trigger/sear just to make them a decent gun, Why they dont put them aftermarket parts in when they make the damn things?
Had one them Norinco Browning .22 knock off's that functioned perfictly but had so so accuracy.
Had a good shooting budday with a Mossberg 353 (funkey fold down forearm as i remember it)that dident seem to give any problems, why Im not shure cause he shot it all the time, only thing I remember was he kept it spotlessly clean.