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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #60 on: April 10, 2009, 11:10:00 AM »
This needs to end quickly and decisively unless we want to put up with this type of BS all the time.  There is only one way to deal with the school yard bullies and that is to face them head on.  If we back down we will always be a target.   How many more American lives would be at risk if these b@$$&#8$ are allowed to think that they can get away with it even for one minute.

It's time for 'O' to find a pair and man up.  Maybe he could borrow Hillery's.   
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #61 on: April 10, 2009, 11:33:01 AM »
Quote from: tn_junk on April 10, 2009, 03:04:56 AM
NPR just announced that the Captain tried to escape, but was recaptured.
We have ships in the area. Why, in the world, did we not have SEAL's deployed,
and have them take care of the situation, especially as the Captain was in the
water, away from his captors.
I just don't get it. Have we, the US, become totally emasculated by "world opinion".

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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #62 on: April 10, 2009, 11:44:38 AM »
we  are  negotiating  with  pirates on  the  mainland  you say??
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The news reports did say today the hostage was going to be killed if the US did not back off.
The FBI advised it would be best because they felt negotiations were going ok. They are talking with "Pirate Headquaters" on the mainland who are probably not too thrilled about the fact their people took a US ship. It's speculated the leaders could throw the 4 pirates under the bus ordering them to release the hostage.
It is also noted that the Pirates have a history of ending hostage situations peacefully (releasing the hostage unharmed).

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good  they can triangulate  the tramsmission  of  that  signal
vaporize  it  them.....or  better  yet  take  them  hostage
and  put  them  on the same kind of life  boat  a few hundred yards  away
and  blow  it  up
then  politly  ask for the american  back


naw  just voporize  the signal co-ordinace   another one of us might get  hurt taking them alive
then ask for the american back
 
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #63 on: April 10, 2009, 12:03:08 PM »
We ought to.  Dont even need to trianglate the co-ordnants a AGM-88 can home in on the signal and score a direct hit. piece of cake...I used to build and maintain them in the military.  Great weapon it is!

Unfortunately AT BEST we have a re-incarnatioon of Jimmy Carter as a C&C and we all know how this story is going to play out.  I just wonder if its going to take more than 400 days like the hostages taken by Irain...guess we will see.
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #64 on: April 10, 2009, 02:12:05 PM »
It's high time we get Teddy Roosevelt's big stick back out of the closet and show the world the US is not someone to screw with.  ;)
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #65 on: April 10, 2009, 02:54:49 PM »
Nuke em till they glow, then shoot them in the dark.

No, No, No nukes, but it would be an interesting thought.

Again as I have said before Send in the pros, the SEALS, and let them handle it at their discretion.  With them on the scene it would be quick and final. 
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #66 on: April 10, 2009, 02:59:30 PM »
The military and public safety agencies are restricted by the IITWH (idiot in the white house).  Can't wait for a CNN reporter to be filmed talking with the leader of the pirates...

Obamas first test is a dismal failure!
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #67 on: April 10, 2009, 06:17:33 PM »
They should take away "o's" food and water until the captain is freed, that might speed up his decision-making process a little! (oh thats right, they are having a cocktail party at the white house tonight)
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #68 on: April 10, 2009, 06:33:51 PM »
Why should he have to suffer, just because an american citizen is faced with bodily harm and/or death at the hands of UPOS (usless pieces of s&^t)?

Who's at the dinner reception?
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #69 on: April 10, 2009, 06:51:27 PM »
Not sure, heard it was going to be for 100 guests. Any guesses on how many of them went to good friday service though?
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #70 on: April 11, 2009, 12:45:07 AM »
  You can ber pretty sure that George Soros... his controller, will be there.  :D
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #71 on: April 11, 2009, 02:20:46 AM »
Quote from: curtism1234 on April 10, 2009, 09:55:26 AM
Carter didn't give Iran weapons. I believe that was Reagan and Bush Sr. who pulled that stunt  ::) ::) ::)


OK lets go back a play the blame game. Divert what the NEW President is lacking by bring up stuff past Presidents have done. What good is all that in the situation that is going on right now?  You Obama butt kissers need to understand this is the same old crap with a different wrapper.

When are you going to pull your hear out of the sand, and take responsibility you all elected a BS artist.
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #72 on: April 11, 2009, 02:26:41 AM »
Quote from: Redhawk1 on April 11, 2009, 02:20:46 AM
Quote from: curtism1234 on April 10, 2009, 09:55:26 AM
Carter didn't give Iran weapons. I believe that was Reagan and Bush Sr. who pulled that stunt  ::) ::) ::)


OK lets go back a play the blame game. Divert what the NEW President is lacking by bring up stuff past Presidents have done. What good is all that in the situation that is going on right now?  You Obama butt kissers need to understand this is the same old crap with a different wrapper.

When are you going to pull your hear out of the sand, and take responsibility you all elected a BS artist.



Reagan or Bush senior gave IRAN weapons?

I think your liberal scum lies a little lacking in FACT.
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #73 on: April 11, 2009, 03:01:31 AM »
FBI should not be involved in this at all, this is a high seas deal, Navy all the way, they are run by the President of the US...nobody else should be involved.
They are not radical religious nuts,  or the Capitain would be dead already....they want money period.  The president should say nothing in public at all on this matter, direct the Navy to kill them all or capture them all, whichever happens first, and they could easlily do this no problem and we all know it.
You can't pay them...or you'll have to pay more after, you can't talk to them and negotiate, you must send the proper message fast and hard. 
A team of our special Navy forces could overtake that drifting life raft in seconds right from under the boat...these guys can damn near shut down a country just dumping them off shore with nothing but a knife.....we all know the Navy has been told to stand down. 

If this is not an example of inexperience, lack of guts, and lack of making a decision, what is?  A president in these matters should not be worried about what anyone thinks or how anything looks or public opinion...you do what you got to do now. If the Navy looks weak...so does their leader.  NOT GOOD!

My opinion...they vary. 
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #74 on: April 11, 2009, 03:22:14 AM »
 The pirates are not necessarily Muslim maniacs..they want money, but they are not willing to trade their lives for it. We should be able to fairly easily get the captain back and squash the whole pirate thing. 
   For curtism;
  Iran would be no problem even today if Carter had not double-crossed the Shah and made the middle east the Ayatollah Khomeni's play ground. When Carter refused to help the Shah and actually encouraged the Ayatollah to take Iran and start his Wahabism schools throughout the middle east, fueled by oil revenues..that started the march of radical Islamic terrorism. First the taking of our embassy, holding the staff hostage and then spreading to Afghanistan and so on. Thanks to "Bumbles" Carter.
  Yet, that is in the past, but I fear we have Carter II (or worse) in office today.
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #75 on: April 11, 2009, 03:31:37 AM »
They are criminal scum, kill em be done with it. Simple as that, we have some jokers that try to make everything out to be more than it is.

Oh yeah I must add, they are muslim scum, makes them all the more useless, kill em.
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #76 on: April 11, 2009, 03:52:55 AM »
Yep Billy, things are very simple if you have the guts...no guts, you make it real complicated by trying to go another route. 

We can't handle pirates...what we going to do when Iran's Navy steps on our feet, or anyone for that matter? Make that complicted too I guess.  We'll make it all complicated form here on in I suppose, have to make up for lack of guts and leadership, and we need to feel out how the American people feel I guess.
Big mistake...real big mistake.  This is not a popularity contest.

And what the h#ll is the FBI doing...investigating?  Investigating WHAT???  If that is not a sign of not knowing what to do and who to use, what is?
I guess the only answer for anyone agreeing with pussy footing around, would be negotiatons right?  So that is simple...you either think we talk, or act.
I never cared much for talkin when something needs to be done. 

Longer they wait, worse it looks.  We need someone with some sand in charge of our forces.  If we don't have that,  we are in deep trouble.

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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #77 on: April 11, 2009, 06:11:30 AM »
Tongue in cheek ;)
Send Al Sharpton and the black "cauldron" to negotiate with the brothers.
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #78 on: April 11, 2009, 07:00:20 AM »
Quote from: Redhawk1 on April 11, 2009, 02:20:46 AM
Quote from: curtism1234 on April 10, 2009, 09:55:26 AM
Carter didn't give Iran weapons. I believe that was Reagan and Bush Sr. who pulled that stunt  ::) ::) ::)


OK lets go back a play the blame game. Divert what the NEW President is lacking by bring up stuff past Presidents have done. What good is all that in the situation that is going on right now?  You Obama butt kissers need to understand this is the same old crap with a different wrapper.

When are you going to pull your hear out of the sand, and take responsibility you all elected a BS artist.

It's all part of Liberal Socialist training. Blame somebody else, lie until what they are saying is finally perceived as the truth, talk over those with opposing viewpoints in discussions and interviews, and stage ridiculous protests.  The NEW President??  Wasn't there a lot of rhetoric during the campaign about how qualified he was for the job?  Seems like Hillary was right--he lacks real qualifications after all.  Obama is, in fact, proving beyond all doubt that he not only is a BS artist, but he has a real talent for appointing lawbreakers to cabinet positions.
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #79 on: April 11, 2009, 07:45:23 AM »
This situation needs to be dealt with quickly or it will encourage more of the same.   Seems it's already happening.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/12/world/africa/12somalia.html?hpw
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #80 on: April 11, 2009, 09:20:27 AM »
Yup, a tugboat pulling barges was taken. The Crew is Italian the tug is American owned. Where is Al and the Rev. Jesse ??
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #81 on: April 11, 2009, 10:16:04 AM »
Quote from: BBF on April 11, 2009, 09:20:27 AM
Where is Al and the Rev. Jesse ??

Probably getting dressed up to go have cocktails with 'O' and Michele tonight at the White House.
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #82 on: April 11, 2009, 10:39:08 AM »
Food Stamps! Maybe they would settle for Food Stamps?? Honestly, I like the Vaporization suggestion.....
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #83 on: April 11, 2009, 10:58:51 AM »
Am I out of touch?  I don't remember seeing or hearing anything from the white house? 

By the way who is the halfrican's wife wearing?
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #84 on: April 11, 2009, 01:56:40 PM »
Quote from: stubshaft on April 11, 2009, 10:58:51 AM
Am I out of touch?  I don't remember seeing or hearing anything from the white house? 

By the way who is the halfrican's wife wearing?
I think she was just fitted for one of dishes that make your lip stick out 4 inches. :o ;D Dale
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #85 on: April 11, 2009, 03:05:32 PM »
the  bowling pin?????
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #86 on: April 11, 2009, 05:39:03 PM »
There Is a WAR on Terror
They have One of US, they are Terrorist's
We are at War with Terrorists Period
 They have one of US
they are Terrorists
WE are at war with Terrorists
They have one of US
they are Terrorists
WE are at war with Terrorists

What is the Lair going to do with these Terrorists


They are not Pirates of the Caribbean they are Terrorists, We are at War with Terrorists

WHY hasn't something been Done
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #87 on: April 11, 2009, 05:49:36 PM »
The TERRORISTS have Civil Rights now.  Someone? removed them from Gitmo.  They should be treated humanly? While an honorable Captain is being held hostage by them.  The Humane Society locally, catches animals, feeds animals then gasses them.  I think that this would be a "humane" way of dealing with TERRORISTS.  I don't remember seeing Israel putting them on the news (except to show their "humanely executed corpses). 
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #88 on: April 11, 2009, 06:03:11 PM »
 While TM may well be right that there are some "invisible" perps involved (the kind with Swiss accounts), we have the pirates in our sights right now. The FBI if involved at all should be investigating the Swiss accounts, because there is nothing for them to investigate at the scene of the piracy. The world knows who are the pirates and that they would be best wiped out ..don't need the FBI to tell them that.
  Trying to think along his lines, I believe the captain figured that if he could just jump overboard and get 15-20 feet away..the pirate's boat would be turned into toothpicks..how utterly disappointed he must have been !
  As far as other pirate crafts coming out to "aid" the drifting pirates; by their showing up, they are admitting that they are pirates also. Their crafts should be sunk..
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Re: OK, Here It Is, Obama's First Test.
« Reply #89 on: April 11, 2009, 06:30:11 PM »
 o was all for "negotiating with terrorists without preconditions"- (remember that?), nobody prepped him about dealing with terrorists with a precondition (like a hostage). Maybe if we just ignore it it will go away!

He will just say something stupid tomorrow, the stock market will drop  500 points on monday, and we'll all forget about the Captain Phillips. >:(
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