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Offline Ron C.

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« on: September 09, 2003, 06:57:13 PM »
Just bought one of these on impulse (unusual for me, I usually research things to death) , they are on sale at the Cabela's in Kansas City for $200.  Always wanted a SAA  type for fun and looks very well made.  I know it is a "no frills" model with the brass guard, backstrap and matte finish but appears to be a pretty faithful copy of Colt SAA.  I am tempted to buy two more for my sons before they go off sale on the 14th, just seeking any opinions.  Is this price as good as I think it is?  Also I reload, would these use .454 or .451 bullets?  Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2003, 08:24:31 PM »
The price is right, that's half the price of the Uberti Cattleman.  The bullet should be .451 jacketed or .452 lead.  Don't load it past "Colt" levels.
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2003, 01:56:11 PM »
They are an excellent buy at that price. I'd recommend you pick up those other two.

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Thanks for the help!
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2003, 06:54:33 PM »
Definitely going to get early Christmas presents for my sons, I think these are a steal and after having it a couple of days I am impressed by the quality for the price.  The only thing I did not like was the thick shiny varnish on the grips, pretty nice wood underneath.  I decided to just smooth them out and take off some of the shine with some 0000 steel wool.  Did not want to get dust in the works so after looking at the diagram it seemed easy to get the backstrap and grips off.  I am kind of a basement gunsmith, have some tools and the knack for it so never been afraid to take things apart when called for.  Came off easily using proper screwdrivers and smoothed out the grips. Decided to smooth out the brass backstrap and trigger guard also.  I like the result, not polished bright,  but not the "unfinished brass" as Cabela's described it.  Never worked with brass parts like this and discovered they have a little "spring" in them.  Things did not line up readily but took my time and all back together as new.  

     Cabela's also has the Ultramax 250 gr. round nose flat point for $15.99 per 50, Remington brass, looks to be about wholesale price for new ammo.  As I plan to reload, I may buy four or five more boxes to shoot and for the brass.  Any opinions on the Remington brass vs. others for reloading many times?  Thanks again guys.
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2003, 07:03:16 PM »
I have and use Remington brass, but I much prefer Winchester or Starline.  Federal is also good.
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Why Winchester?
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2003, 08:07:53 PM »
Just wondering, do you get more life out of the cases, etc. ?  I think I can get similar loads in Win. for about $1 more per box.  Thanks.
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2003, 02:06:57 PM »
If you are just loading these to Colt level loads, you will get many firings form any brand of brass.  The Starline seems about the best I've worked with, but I load full tilt for a Ruger Bisley, the Remington brass does not last long for that application.
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2003, 05:48:53 PM »
Howdy,

It's not unusual to get 10 reloads from straight walled brass in CAS loads.  Some folks enjoy telling us about more, but at 10, you've paid a penny a piece.  Let them rest.

Hope you enjoy the pistolas.  They are the same mechanics as the high dollar models and excellent candidates for "antiquing" down the way.

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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2003, 08:03:42 PM »
I've had Remington 357 plated brass split on the first shot.  'nuf said.
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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2003, 03:35:32 AM »
I bought one a couple of years ago when they were still $199.95 plus shipping. Drove to the Kearney store to pick it up.  I like it but it is obviously not up to the quality standards of the $400 -$1000 revolvers. I had a trigger job done on it because of grittiness which also involved replacing springs because of cracks; this is after about 500 rounds. The bore was extremely rough with machining marks so I shot 25 or so lapping rounds through it which really improved smoothness of the bore.  The forcing cone had to be re-cut. I also had the barrel turned because it shot about 8" to the left of point of aim at 25 yards. I have about $160 in gunsmith expenses in it.

I bought a couple thousand Hornady swaged 255 grain RNFP .454 diameter bullets and use just a hair over the minimum recommended dosage of AA #5. I tried Unigue, Bullseye & W231, but mine seems to prefer AA #5. The chamber mouths are a consistent .452 but it still shoots the soft .454 bullets well with no leading.

For the money, I thinks it's one heck of a good buy. I don't shoot cowboy action, but it's my favorite swinging target plinking gun.
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2003, 06:04:32 PM »
Bought the other two yesterday for my sons, but one will have to be exchanged tomorrow.  Should have looked closer when I bought it but the backstrap and trigger guard were poorly fitted to the grip and frame, overhang at bottom and back.  It was not terrible, but quite obvious.  Probably being picky for $200 but the other two are so much better.

  The quality (except for the fit on the one) is excellent, nice crisp trigger pull, etc.  The windage being off is a concern on fixed sight revolvers like this.  Will try to check that when I get to the range next week.

   Thanks for all the helpful comments, think I will by some Winchester ammo to get started and Starline brass.
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2003, 06:45:58 AM »
I got one of these revolvers and figure that it was worth every penny.  The bolt/trigger spring did go south on me in fairly short order, but I put a Wolff cowboy spring kit in it (took all of about 2 minutes) and haven't had a problem since.  Of course, it doesn't shoot where I point it (like most SAA clones from what I understand), but it groups well.  I haven't taken the time to get the front sight right just yet.

I've gotta say, though, that I absolutely can't stand that finish that comes on the gun.  I took some Mother's Mag Wheel polish to it, and it looks much cooler now, and about 80 years older.  When I get a chance I'm going to take a buffing wheel/compound to the brass.  Then I'll be completely happy.
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2003, 12:22:04 PM »
Thanks, I was also thinking about polishing the matte finish a little, can't really hurt it.   I just took 0000 steel wool to the brass, smoothed it up but not a high polish finish. The windage being off on these kind of concerns me,  any way to correct other than turning the barrel?
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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2003, 09:06:59 AM »
I haven't done this, but I've heard of guys making minor windage corrections by putting a wrench on the sight and giving it a VERY GENTLE nudge in the correct direction.  I still have some more loads to try first though.
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2003, 07:04:54 PM »
Bending the sight may lead to breaking it off... It's silver soldered (if you're lucky) into a  recess in the barrel.  Sometimes they are just pressed in.  Resoldering requires a reblue.  Usually, a gunsmith will turn the barrel.
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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2003, 01:49:25 PM »
To change point of impact to match line of sight you can file the front sight or open the notch in the frame on the rear on one side.File the rear notch on the side you want your shot to move to.If your gun shoots low file the front sight down.Just remember to file a VERY little at a time and keep checking for bullet strike on target. If your gun shoots high you need a taller front sight, or you could try a heavier bullet or lower vel. load.--Willy
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2003, 05:51:56 PM »
I have just been down that trail pilgram. I bought the .45 Long Colt made by Uberti for Beretta. ( $360.00) On another site, I was told not to load these guns made by Uberti hot. I settled on 7grs. of Unique. I tried 8grs. but it had too much bounce. I back off a grain and 7grs feels just right with 255gr. SWC. That should be about 700fps. I have not had a chance to chronograph it yet. It sure is a fun gun to shoot. OOBuckshot :D
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« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2003, 06:24:13 PM »
The $100, or less, that you will pay a good gunsmith to put your point of aim in the black with your selected load is a bargain.  DO NOT bend your front sight, you'll end up paying a $100 dollars to have it fixed and still not be on target.  If the pistol in question is not too far off, and you'd like the flexibility of shooting other loads, have a front sight dovetailed into the barrel.  The potential for other problems exists with this fix, but it is the most adjustable method, especially if you have the smith fix you up a couple of extra front sights that you can file if need be.  For one load, get the barrel rotated by a good smith, it's your best value.
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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2003, 10:53:49 AM »
From Cabela's web site they price their revolver at $249. Where ya'll getting them for $200?
Rick :shock:
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