Author Topic: Yes!!! The navy rescued the Captain. (Read 3226 times)

newstart2k · « **Reply #30 on:** April 13, 2009, 02:40:03 AM »

The last I heard an unspecified force (read SEALS) parachuted in to the USS BainBitch (Sorry surface pukes, that's USS Bainbridge, old submariner habits die hard). Three shots were fired and three head shots were recorded.

Go Navy!

myronman3 · « **Reply #31 on:** April 13, 2009, 03:17:43 AM »

sadly, the myronman was not involved. happily, the operators that were proved to be up to the task. good on them and good for the captain's family! this is a happy day for the U.S.!

magooch · « **Reply #32 on:** April 13, 2009, 03:31:59 AM »

Unless an awsh*t comes out to cancel it, the Obama gets an Ataboy for at least not making the military stand down. Fair is fair. No worries though, his liberal bent will kick back in shortly.

Questor · « **Reply #33 on:** April 13, 2009, 03:42:03 AM »

They acted too late. It is only by the grace of God that the Maersk captain survived this. Waiting for permission until after the public opinion polls are completed is no way to run a hostage rescue. This situation was botched in every way except that good fortune prevented the loss of a hostage.

Questor · « **Reply #34 on:** April 13, 2009, 05:07:39 AM »

You are probably right. I didn't consider the sleep deprivation part of it.

gstewart44 · « **Reply #35 on:** April 13, 2009, 07:15:24 AM »

Quote from: myronman3 on April 13, 2009, 03:17:43 AM

sadly, the myronman was not involved. happily, the operators that were proved to be up to the task. good on them and good for the captain's family! this is a happy day for the U.S.!

Myronman - you may get your chance yet......The skinnies said on the noon news today they are rallying and vowing revenge on the US.......

I just wonder how many of these lowlifes will need to be eradicated for them to get the message?

?

BBF · « **Reply #36 on:** April 13, 2009, 07:23:14 AM »

Probably every one of them.

Perhaps it is time to go back to old style convoys unless you can arm every vessel going thru these waters. It would be cheaper for sure then keeping navy vessels on station.

Questor · « **Reply #37 on:** April 13, 2009, 07:37:32 AM »

It will be very interesting to see how our other enemies see this display of US weakness. The apparent indecision, the protracted hostage situation. I still believe that in the long run it was a big mistake not to act quickly and decisively.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #38 on:** April 13, 2009, 07:41:10 AM »

GEE WIZZ he did what Regan would have done , just not as fast !

myronman3 · « **Reply #39 on:** April 13, 2009, 08:05:30 AM »

i give numbnuts credit. he did not restrain the guys with their finger on the trigger. one only needs ask "what would willy do?" to realize that he didnt get it wrong.
to some of you, he can do nothing right, and that is your right to think that way. i try to be a bit more objective than that. to each their own.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #40 on:** April 13, 2009, 08:15:17 AM »

Well he gets some credit(man that stuck in my throat er uh fingers) for giving the goahead, but then he may have said you goatheads better not shoot those skinnys, and they read it as goahead and shoot the skinnys!

All jokes aside, Praise for the Navy, and ....................................the administration

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #41 on:** April 13, 2009, 08:27:35 AM »

if he gets us all back to work , 401K's flush with money , leaves guns and hunting alone etc. he will be a hero .

by the way what did the Easter bunny bring ya'll?

Oldshooter · « **Reply #42 on:** April 13, 2009, 08:34:21 AM »

A BRAND NEW GRANDSON......... Jonah, 6 lbs 9 ounces a chip off the old block !!

gypsyman · « **Reply #43 on:** April 13, 2009, 08:44:35 AM »

Like I said in my earlier post. I'll give him credit, even if he kept quiet, and didn't stop the military from doing what we all know they can. NOW, the next week will tell us were he really stands on this. If he does nothing, we all know another ship will be taken. Might be a month or two, but they will. Air Force needs some practice runs on Somali ports, eliminate them. I doubt that the teflon don has it in him though. He'll want to set up talks with them. Send them a stimulis package or 2. gypsyman

Jimbo47 · « **Reply #44 on:** April 13, 2009, 09:51:09 AM »

Since the Pirates (terrorist) said they would get even, maybe Obama better keep tabs on his brother and family in Kenya!

DDZ · « **Reply #45 on:** April 13, 2009, 10:22:26 AM »

I agree with Questor, it took way to long to act. What happened, should have happened right away. Obama should have given the order right away, not wait untill he see's which way the wind is blowing. The media keep refering to them as Somalian pirates. They are nothing but Islamic terrorists. We will see if they think twice about bording another ship with an American crew on board. The crew on board said that they were under attack for a week before they were boarded. That was left out by our boot kissing media, NBC, CBS, and ABC. We have a great Navy but they do have to take orders from Obama. What a shame that is.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #46 on:** April 13, 2009, 11:38:26 AM »

maybe we had to get assets in place ?

Questor · « **Reply #47 on:** April 13, 2009, 12:14:04 PM »

Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

Five days is five days, no matter what reason.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #48 on:** April 13, 2009, 12:21:52 PM »

shorter time than it took Bush ( either one ) to set up the counter attack and i like both Bush's .
He did what we think was the right thing ( only time will tell ) so far if he does not see support from American's he may "CHANGE" next time !

He is a smart man , he is also a politican . Look at where he is and the short time it took to get there . He likes power all politicans do , it couldn't be the money ! He will do what the American voters want or be out and he knows it . He put himself out front to be seen . If we are to worry it should be over congress .

jimster · « **Reply #49 on:** April 13, 2009, 12:27:51 PM »

I am going to give President Obama a thumbs up on this one, I don't know when he gave the order, but he gave it. Yes, would have been nice if they did it faster, but I don't know any details on the when's and why's. Maybe the Navy took some time as well after the order, beats me. I'm the kind of guy who can say Good job when it's due, that doesn't change my mind on other things, but in order to be open minded and fair all the way around, I'm saying keep that kind of stuff up Obama, and you can keep going all the way to where they live far as I'm concerned too, no complaints here. I was hoping Obama would use the Navy, and he did. I find it hard to find fault with that right now not knowing any details, except the details of those were three good shots made all at the right time, on a moving ship aiming at a moving target. Obviously, the communication between those three shooters and their timing is outstanding. To say I am impressed ia an understatement.

There are plenty of other threads to beat up the President on, this one is "YES!!! The navy rescued the Captian"

And all I have to say to that is...YES! They did!

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #50 on:** April 13, 2009, 12:36:03 PM »

i did not vote for the man and still would not . He said he would be all Americans president and this time he did just that . give credit where its deserved and keep a watchful eye open , we live in trying times !

45-70.gov · « **Reply #51 on:** April 13, 2009, 12:40:21 PM »

why does obama get a thumbs up or attaBOY or any credit at all

all he did was let trained people do what they were trained to do

they spent years of training during the bush administration

he made the only logical decicion.........let them do their job

they advised him of the situation....all he had was their reports

just because a man does not blunder for a CHANGE

is nothing spactacular

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #52 on:** April 13, 2009, 12:43:10 PM »

He stayed out the way , left politics out . After Clinton and Carter it just seems he did the right thing .

Questor · « **Reply #53 on:** April 13, 2009, 02:44:31 PM »

Shootall:

Um. Bush took longer than 5 days to do what?

stubshaft · « **Reply #54 on:** April 13, 2009, 02:49:10 PM »

Quote from: Questor on April 13, 2009, 12:14:04 PM

Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

Five days is five days, no matter what reason.

2 White house dinners and the results of the polls... It doesn't take 5 days to get anywhere in the world!

Brett · « **Reply #55 on:** April 13, 2009, 02:52:10 PM »

Navy snipers had multiple chances to shoot Somali pirates
The SEALs held off until prospects for a peaceful rescue of Capt. Richard Phillips appeared to shrivel. President Obama promises a sustained campaign against piracy.
By Julian E. Barnes and Greg Miller
5:00 PM PDT, April 13, 2009
Reporting from Washington -- Before ending a pirate standoff with three fatally precise shots, U.S. Navy SEAL snipers had passed on multiple opportunities to fire.

They had moved into position after the White House expanded the authority it had given the world's most powerful navy against a rag-tag foe holding an American hostage.

They kept their scopes trained on their Somali targets as prospects for a peaceful resolution seemed to shrivel.

Most of all, they waited as a series of seemingly insignificant moves -- from extending the pirates a rope to bringing an injured brigand onboard -- improved the sharpshooters' odds for success.

In his first public remarks on the rescue, President Obama on Monday pledged a sustained campaign against piracy.

"I want to be very clear that we are resolved to halt the rise of piracy in that region," Obama said. "We have to continue to be prepared to confront them when they arise. And we have to ensure that those who commit acts of piracy are held accountable for their crimes." Obama was briefed on the crisis at least 18 times. But the crisis seems to have crystallized for the administration on Friday, not long after the White House got word that Capt. Phillips had tried to escape from his captors.

Senior NSC officials met in the White House situation room to draft a series of options to deliver to Obama. Later that night, Obama appears to have issued his first order authorizing the use of lethal force. The next morning, that authority to use lethal force was expanded and SEALs arrived on the Destroyer Bainbridge.

A military official speaking on condition of anonymity said the sniper team had multiple opportunities to shoot, but held off, not believing Phillips was in imminent danger.

The military thought they had a crucial breakthrough on Sunday morning. The youngest pirate, who had been injured, asked the SEALs if he could come aboard the Bainbridge to make a phone call.

As Sunday dragged on, the seas grew rougher and Navy officers offered to tow the lifeboat behind the Bainbridge, telling the pirates that they would move them to calmer waters. Also, the pirates were likely experiencing a withdrawal from Khat, a narcotic leaf chewed by many Somali men, according to a senior military official. Aboard the hot and cramped lifeboat tensions escalated. Watching from the Bainbridge, the sniper team observed an apparent argument between Phillips and one of the pirates.

The SEAL team observed two of the pirates move away from Phillips and stick their heads out from a hatch. The third pirate raised his weapon at Phillips' back. Convinced that Phillips was about to be shot, the SEAL commander gave the order to fire.

"If the goal was just to kill these guys there were opportunities where we could have shot them," said a military official. "This was not the outcome we wanted. We wanted those three guys to give themselves up."

julian.barnes@latimes.com

ironglow · « **Reply #56 on:** April 13, 2009, 03:20:22 PM »

Oldshooter;
Congrats on that new grandson ! I do have to give the prez credit for doing things much as Reagan or "W" would have done it.
I don't know just how many kudos should go anywhere besides to tyhe SEALS & the captain.. President's job was easy, all he had to do was say, "sic'em".

Brett · « **Reply #57 on:** April 13, 2009, 03:54:45 PM »

Got to give 'O' credit for not continuing to stand in the way, that's all I'll give him though.

As to the Navy SEAL sharpshooters... You guys rock!

To Rescue Captain, U.S. Snipers Held Steady Despite Many Moving Parts

By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: April 13, 2009

WASHINGTON — The hard part was not the distance, 75 feet, an easy range for an experienced sniper. Far more difficult were all the moving parts: the bobbing lifeboat, the rolling ship, hitting three targets simultaneously in darkness — and all without harming the hostage, Capt. Richard Phillips.

That was the consensus on Monday from former members of the Navy Seals who said they were impressed by the skills of three Seal snipers who aimed from the fantail of the destroyer Bainbridge and picked off three Somali pirates holding Captain Phillips in a small lifeboat that was being towed about 75 feet behind the destroyer.

“For all three of them to fire those shots at the same time and take those guys out, it was quite a feat,” said Don Shipley, a former member of the Seals who now runs a private Seal training school in Chesapeake, Va. “They showed the patience the sniper has, which is looking through the scope for hours to get that perfect shot.”

A Defense official said that the three snipers, who had authority from President Obama to shoot if they thought Captain Phillips’ life was in danger, fired when they saw a pirate aiming a rifle at the captain’s back. There was no command to fire at that given moment, the official said.

Several dozen members of the Seals had secretly boarded the Bainbridge on Saturday, having flown to the area, parachuted into the ocean and then climbed aboard inflatable boats they had dropped into the sea. The Navy would not say where they were based or if they were part of even more elite, clandestine military units that have historically been used for hostage rescues.

But a former member of the Seals said the events unfolded as a classic hostage rescue operation and that Seal snipers trained daily, and under all conditions, to maintain precision skills.

“Training from a moving platform is something they do all the time,” said the former member, Harry Humphries, who is now a security consultant and actor. “That’s a classic problem at sea.”

Jamey Cummings, another former member of the Seals who is now an executive headhunter, said most Seal platoons of 16 had at least two snipers who were essential to the tactics of the group. “It’s a common misperception that Seals like to sneak up on people and use knives on them,” he said. “If you have to do that, the mission was probably not planned that way.”

Mark Mazzetti contributed reporting.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #58 on:** April 13, 2009, 05:32:41 PM »

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Got to give 'O' credit for not continuing to stand in the way

That's probably mostly what he should get credit for! But being the commander in chief he gets the blame or the glory! Go Navy!

Man I keep thinking about those shots, You really would not want to be in those guys sights!

Yea, the distance was not that far but from one rolling vessel to another smaller rolling vessel, and simultaneously Awesome shooting!

Oh and I forgot, the Grandson went home today, I'll talk about him if I have to!

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #59 on:** April 14, 2009, 01:48:47 AM »

now he can do it again maybe 3 times !
This will be the test .
Maybe Bush was correct every where we see trouble its muslims involved . This war will be long and hard