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Offline Big B

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« on: September 10, 2003, 03:29:47 PM »
Anybody age there Land sets for K 9's. I heard of some trappers doing this and just wondered if anybody around here does that and what methods are used.....B.....

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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2003, 03:47:29 PM »
If you are refering to dirt hole sets, I prefer them fresh as can be.  The odor of fresh dirt is an attractor in itself and then we have the added eye appeal of fresh dirt too.  I freshen all sets by scratching them up after a hard rain.  Ace :-)

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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2003, 04:14:10 PM »
I recall discussions with an Old trapper that told of putting sets out and waiting for the wind etc to erease all signs of distrurbance before luring the set.  I remember that this was done primarily to get the old fussy ones.  I have not done this.

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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2003, 04:18:29 PM »
Asas' idea of keeping a fresh looking dirt hole is a good idea . Canines or what ever you are after  think another animal has just buried something.  Now sometime a canine  gets dirt hole wise if it sees its litter mates or has its toes nipped from a trap going off and is educated.  THEN using various types of flat sets with the  ground over trap blended to look like surronding area is  important to  catching some of the trap wise canines.  One can use a  small broom to take top ground duff  off site where trap will be and then brush back over set when done setting trap to blend area.  Also one can use  water  with cap perforated with small holes so you can sprinkle over trap set to  age it   so when it dries it looks old and not new.

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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2003, 05:14:25 PM »
i have never aged one because i wanted to lol.  but i have aged a bunch on accident.  the first check on a coyote line is fun.  the second check will work ya in the skinning shed, the 3rd check you wont be in the house for a while....matt

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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2003, 02:19:17 AM »
Like RdFx stated, I reserve completely blended sets for the digger or set avoider that has been educated.  I generally add such a blind set along with a group of dirt holes in the event such a wary 'ol coyote happens along.   I have always called these "Blind Scent Sets" as I never heard the term "Flat Set" when I was growing up. I try to make these blind sets in sand or moss when possible, carefully scraping aside the surface material, bed the trap and finish off blending with the set aside surface material.  In grass it is a little more difficult to get a perfect blind set but can do quite well by pulling short grass or by cutting up longer strands of grass with a scissors while blending in the set.  The scent object accompanying these blind sets are something natural such as a rock, tuft of grass, small bush or root jutting upward.  Ace

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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2003, 09:33:40 AM »
ace, the only real sand i have ever trapped in is river sand bar sand.  in that stuff i use foam like you can buy at wal mart under the pan.  now the time i am there is in early fall when freezing is not much of a problem.

if ya dont mind telling, what system do you use in damp sand in freezing weather up in the michigan country?  i would like to see the U.P. myself some day....matt

sorry i kinda got off topic

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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2003, 11:39:06 AM »
I've used the foam pads Matt, back in the bounty era of trapping Summer months.  It was a good way to help prevent ruffed grouse dusting themselves on the sets from springing the trap.  However, as you mentioned, foam pads will freeze solid in a hurry in freezing weather.  Up here in the U.P., one has frezing nights to deal with right from day one in trapping season.  I use waxed paper as a pan cover along with spraying a 50%-50% mixture of glycerine/water in layers when the set is being covered.  Once it really begins to freze hard, I use waxed paper underneath the trap to prevent the trap from freezing to the ground.  We only have a short time of this and then we are right into deep snow.  At deep snow sets I wrap the entire trap loosely in crushed waxed paper.  Crushing the paper helps prevent the wind from drifting the snow off the trap and to prevent a crinkeling noise should the canine step on the jaw first.  Ace :-)

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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2003, 12:03:30 PM »
My thoughts on this are simple- I either want the set to look like it was made a minute ago or look like it has been there for 20 years.  

It's the inbetweeners' that kill ya.
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2003, 01:32:42 PM »
thanks ace.

thats funny steve, the inbetweeners lol...matt

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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2003, 02:43:44 PM »
Yep Trappnman gets all goofy and INBETWEEN when he checks out his lure supply to make sure they are still good.  Heck i think Lori has to put a lock on the lure shed to keep Steve out of there so she can talk to him once in awhile.  Heck even ol Fargo ( da pooch)  can find Steve and hes half blind cause Steve  spills alot on himself when hes 's sniffen :)   It has been rumored Steve doesnt even have to put lure out when he makes a set  becuase just him being there scents up the trap set :roll:

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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2003, 03:29:27 PM »
:grin: I totally agree trappnman, no in-betweens!  The sets are either fresh, fresh, fresh or so blind one couldn't spot it with a microscope.  Fresh attracts all those juvenile canines as well as a majority of adults.  Blind puts the finishing touches on those wary 'ol yotes that are suspicious of just about anything and everything.  My favorite is deep snow Winter trapping where all sets are totally blind once one gets a skiff of snowfall to obliterate any disturbances that were made when constructing the set. In snow my favorite sets are big conspicuous scent posts made along travelways.  The only thing about the set thats visible is the post itself wreaking with a coyote or fox gland/passion scent. Ace

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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2003, 05:02:54 AM »
Fresh or 20 years old....I like that.
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2003, 05:21:01 AM »
If I remember correctly, snow is white, cold and wet; a form of froozen rain please tell me if I'm wrong on this :(

Who says there aren't regional differences? :eek:

In my country your sets age fast often by the time you manage to pull the truck door shut against the wind.

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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2003, 05:34:35 AM »
:grin: Hey Wacky, snow storms, sand storms, same thing in the trapping game.  Ace

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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2003, 11:23:20 AM »
Asa, you've been out in the weather too long :)