Author Topic: Remington 5R? what is it? (Read 2056 times)

john keyes · « **on:** April 15, 2009, 05:05:56 PM »

anybody heard of this gun?

here is one on gunbroker

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=126738077

jls · « **Reply #1 on:** April 16, 2009, 01:24:13 AM »

5R is the type of rifling in the barrel. TC uses this type in their Icon. supposed to be more accurate and easier to clean.

island66 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 16, 2009, 02:36:57 AM »

Standard Remington rifling is 6 lands and grooves with sharp, 90 degree corners between the lands and grooves. The 5R system is five lands and grooves with 45 degree shoulders. This is the rifling system that Remington uses on the M24 sniper rifles that they build for the US Army. The theory is that this design gives a better gas seal, more consistent velocity, longer barrel life, less friction and better accuracy. That's the theory. The truth, I believe, is that if you have a good standard 6 groove barrel and a good 5R barrel, you won't tell much difference between them all other things being equal. Having said that, though, the 700SS 5R Milspec has been very popular and I've heard people say that they shoot very well. My buddy has one and loves it.

All the 5R barrels will have a 1/11.25 ROT, so it should do pretty well with heavier bullets. If you're looking for a good target rifle, jump on it. I think you'll be happy.

Jason

sniperVLS · « **Reply #3 on:** April 16, 2009, 02:55:39 AM »

Jason nailed it, not much left to say other than I've always wanted one but it seems when I get the $$, I always get sidetracked and buy something else

Be aware there are 2 models floating around(kind of like how there are 3 Sendero models and it can get confusing).

The original 700 5R had a dark blue HS stock with specks of white. The current 5R has a dark green HS stock(#PSV74) with some faint white splashes and a more pronounced palm swell. Only the current one will obviously have the Xmark trigger and I don't think either model has the J lock.

They are shooters for sure and worth every penny. 99% of them DO clean up easier, that part is not myth. 2 patches of BoreTech Eliminator and its 100% done. The cleaning will vary from barrel to barrel but if you shoot a lot like I do, a quick easy clean is priceless.

Dang, now you guys got me wanting one again!

hardly · « **Reply #4 on:** April 16, 2009, 07:53:02 AM »

just bought one, still playing with loads, so far so good. Got the trigger to about 3 lbs but am sending it to Neal Jones soon.

277284 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 16, 2009, 04:24:42 PM »

There is a recent review on that on sniper--central.

diggler1833 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 21, 2009, 11:05:13 PM »

I have a 5R myself and love it. That rifle has proven sub 1/2 MOA for at least 6 different loads that I've found while I was doing load development. Doesn't matter what bullet, doesn't matter what powder, it eats it all. The one problem I did find though is that mine is really particular about the velocity to hit that accuracy node. As little as a couple of tenths of a grain either way on the powder charge will mean the difference of a 1/2 MOA rifle and a 1 MOA rifle.

I did not like how the H-S stock fit my shooting hand, that is just a personal preference. I went through to H-S stocks on the rifle until I settled on a McMillan A4. It shot great with the H-S stocks, and just as good with the McMillan, I just now have a rifle that fits me better and allows me to concentrate more on braking the shot instead of trying to get a good feel of the rifle.

Right now my 5R is sitting in the safe waiting for the new Sightron SIII to come in off of back order. Here is a picture of it before.

jmayton · « **Reply #7 on:** April 22, 2009, 04:30:14 AM »

Dang, now you guys got me wanting one again. I'd decided it wasn't a worth-while expense. But I was in two shops last week and both had one and now ya'll are talking about it again...guess I better start saving my pennies!

In answer to the question, everything I've heard about them is good. The sniper-central review is a good read. I'd like to have one, just to have something different.

On a side note, I think I noticed that Remington is putting the 5R rifling in another of their tactical rifles for 2009. Anyone else notice this? I can't remember the model.

sniperVLS · « **Reply #8 on:** April 22, 2009, 01:14:00 PM »

Quote from: jmayton on April 22, 2009, 04:30:14 AM

Dang, now you guys got me wanting one again. I'd decided it wasn't a worth-while expense. But I was in two shops last week and both had one and now ya'll are talking about it again...guess I better start saving my pennies!

In answer to the question, everything I've heard about them is good. The sniper-central review is a good read. I'd like to have one, just to have something different.

On a side note, I think I noticed that Remington is putting the 5R rifling in another of their tactical rifles for 2009. Anyone else notice this? I can't remember the model.

The high priced 700 Target Tactical is the one you speak of.

Skunk · « **Reply #9 on:** April 22, 2009, 01:16:46 PM »

I see you can get the 5R now in .223 with a 9 twist. Now that would be a cool Remington to own.

jmayton · « **Reply #10 on:** April 23, 2009, 03:57:58 AM »

Thanks, Sniper...that's the one.

Up until recently I understood that the 5R was only chambered in .308, but one shop had two: a .223 and a .300WM. I didn't realize they were available so chambered. Btw, Skunk, where did you "see" that?

Skunk · « **Reply #11 on:** April 23, 2009, 06:02:07 AM »

Quote from: jmayton on April 23, 2009, 03:57:58 AM

Btw, Skunk, where did you "see" that?

jmayton,

I first saw them on Gun Broker (just looked and there are still some available there), then as I was perusing the internet, I continued to see them listed on a few gun dealer websites.

hardly · « **Reply #12 on:** April 24, 2009, 02:35:55 AM »

diggler, care to share your load data? Just starting with the 5R 308. I use Varget with 168 SMK's and getting good groups from 43.2 to 44.4 grs. but having no luck with the SMK 175's that I thought would be the best bullet weight. Considering A-Max and Berger VLDs.

diggler1833 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 25, 2009, 04:27:49 AM »

PM sent with load data.

diggler1833 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 25, 2009, 04:36:44 AM »

Yeah they are making a 1:9 twist .223 5R, as well as a 1:10 twist .300WM 5R with supposedly a limited run of 24" barrel.

Personally I'd much rather prefer a 1:7.5 - 1:8 twist .223 as it would allow one to stabilize the heavies for shooting out to 1K. Although some have had luck with running the 75gr A-Max out of a 1:9, and I'll be giving it a shot myself this summer with my SPS Tactical.

I'd also rather have the 26" barrel on the WM. The gun looks to be more of a target rifle than a hunting rig, and I'd like to have the little extra velocity to get those 208 A-Max's and 210 VLD's out there.

Remington is onto a decent idea here with the 5R. The barrel cleans up a little easier and they seem to be more consistantly accurate from one rifle to another. Although, they are not really that much more, if any more accurate than most of Remmy's varmint/tactical production rifles.

Remington could have also done a bit of consumer polling to find out what people would want in a 5R. Not too many people that I know of would have requested the 1:9 .223.

Skunk · « **Reply #15 on:** April 25, 2009, 07:30:20 AM »

Quote from: diggler1833 on April 25, 2009, 04:36:44 AM

Personally I'd much rather prefer a 1:7.5 - 1:8 twist .223 as it would allow one to stabilize the heavies for shooting out to 1K.

Exactly how I was feeling about it too. I already have a 1:9.

diggler1833 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 25, 2009, 01:28:51 PM »

Me too Skunk. Here is mine.

Just got the parts in. It is a SPS Tactical 20" 1:9 in .223. I dropped it in a McM A5. I already have an A4, and absolutely love the stock. However, this is more of a walking varminter/coyote rig, so the A5 got the nod this time. I've got a Leupy Mk4 base and IOR rings on this one with a Mk4 4.5-14x50 TMR on it as well. Love the scope so far, although I'm seeing and hearing more and more major names in the game that are really starting to get fed up with Leupold (outsourcing a lot to China now).

Well, I slapped some bedding in between the barreled action and stock about an hour ago. I've got duty tomorrow, but should be able to pull it apart and see how it is before I go to the field in two days. Talk to you later.

nomosendero · « **Reply #17 on:** April 25, 2009, 05:13:30 PM »

Quote from: diggler1833 on April 25, 2009, 01:28:51 PM

Me too Skunk. Here is mine.

Just got the parts in. It is a SPS Tactical 20" 1:9 in .223. I dropped it in a McM A5. I already have an A4, and absolutely love the stock. However, this is more of a walking varminter/coyote rig, so the A5 got the nod this time. I've got a Leupy Mk4 base and IOR rings on this one with a Mk4 4.5-14x50 TMR on it as well. Love the scope so far, although I'm seeing and hearing more and more major names in the game that are really starting to get fed up with Leupold (outsourcing a lot to China now).

Well, I slapped some bedding in between the barreled action and stock about an hour ago. I've got duty tomorrow, but should be able to pull it apart and see how it is before I go to the field in two days. Talk to you later.

Very nice!!!

Skunk · « **Reply #18 on:** April 26, 2009, 07:58:15 AM »

Quote from: diggler1833 on April 25, 2009, 01:28:51 PM

Me too Skunk. Here is mine.

Just got the parts in. It is a SPS Tactical 20" 1:9 in .223. I dropped it in a McM A5. I already have an A4, and absolutely love the stock. However, this is more of a walking varminter/coyote rig, so the A5 got the nod this time. I've got a Leupy Mk4 base and IOR rings on this one with a Mk4 4.5-14x50 TMR on it as well. Love the scope so far, although I'm seeing and hearing more and more major names in the game that are really starting to get fed up with Leupold (outsourcing a lot to China now).

Well, I slapped some bedding in between the barreled action and stock about an hour ago. I've got duty tomorrow, but should be able to pull it apart and see how it is before I go to the field in two days. Talk to you later.

That is one nice rifle there Diggler. Very nice choice of components including the base, mounts and scope. I really like the A5 too. My 1:9 is also the SPS Tactical and my dream stock for it would be a McM, Winchester Marksman in GAP Camo, sniper fill, flush mounts, and a flush mounted rail. Thanks for sharing the cool picture Diggler. Now you got me wanting that McM stock again.

hardly · « **Reply #19 on:** April 27, 2009, 02:04:01 AM »

thanks diggler