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Offline Victor3

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Christmas card cannon...
« on: April 23, 2009, 12:22:59 AM »
 This is the card my Wife got me last year. What kind of gun is that?

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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2009, 12:48:13 AM »
Obviously a cannon for blondes.   ;D
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2009, 01:45:00 AM »
Looks like Mons Meg, the giant cannon in Edinburgh, Scotland.
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2009, 01:45:08 AM »
Mons Meg

 

http://www.edinburghcastle.gov.uk/index/tour/highlights/highlights-mons-meg.htm

Looks like a good way to get rid of a poodle.......
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2009, 02:42:00 AM »
Obviously a cannon for blondes.   ;D

 Watch it now... My Wife's a blonde. ;)

 Inside the card was $200 cash. She wrote that it was intended for me to buy "a cannon or bullets or something."

 Beat that  ;D
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2009, 04:40:24 AM »
I'd say your loving wife understands you, & likes you to have the things that make you happy,

cards with money in them are always a nice thing!
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2009, 05:39:01 AM »
That Cannon is a Head Hunters "Head Eating" Cannon from Borneo! Thought that would be obvious from the photo! Either that or one of those Clown shooting Cannon, retired from Barnum and Baily a few years ago! Not to disparage either Head Hunters or Clowns, of course. BoomLover
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2009, 01:10:47 PM »
It looks like they have moved it outside. When, I was there in '96 it was inside. Sorry about the photo. It was taken pre-digital. So, this is a photo of a photo since, I do not have a scanner.  :)

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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2009, 04:41:44 PM »
Actually it may still be inside, I found the photo on the web no telling when it was taken,
I also found several taken inside I just liked this one so I used it.
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2009, 03:19:54 AM »
Mons Meg

 

http://www.edinburghcastle.gov.uk/index/tour/highlights/highlights-mons-meg.htm

Looks like a good way to get rid of a poodle.......

 From what I read about it, sounds like it should have had a seamless steel sleeve epoxied in. ;D

 This one's from the 1400's. What older cannons are still around?
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2009, 12:59:52 PM »
here you got the 2 oldest swedish cannons ever found , the loshult cannon is estimated to 1320 - 1340 depending what source you read . many both national and international sources claim this cannon to be the oldest surviving cannon in the world . the earliest pictures of a cannon known today is from 1326 and show an almost identical cannon as this one .

the other picture is the morko cannon , estimated to 1350 - 1385 . but its more like a hakebus .
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2009, 04:28:56 PM »
Any idea what the lettering on the second one says?
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2009, 07:50:58 PM »
sorry , but I dont know .
will try to call the museum today and ask them .
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2009, 01:48:45 PM »
It reads:

Use Ye black powder only, read instruction scroll before use, do not look in big hole end while

firing........



Sorry I couldn't resist.........  ::)
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2009, 03:45:34 PM »
oooohhhh , is this the first Ruger model  ??   ;D ;D
yeah could be , as they was the first to build guns with cast parts .  :o
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2009, 06:57:12 PM »
oooohhhh , is this the first Ruger model  ??   ;D ;D
yeah could be , as they was the first to build guns with cast parts .  :o

Actually that isn't true many guns from 1840's on used cast parts..... Ruger only improved on it with lost wax process.

But I see what I was thinking of wasn't lost on you  ;D
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2009, 07:31:13 PM »
the morko is definatly on the "to do" list  ;). the inscrpistions are religious but i havnt discovered what they are or mean .                   


here you got the 2 oldest swedish cannons ever found , the loshult cannon is estimated to 1320 - 1340 depending what source you read . many both national and international sources claim this cannon to be the oldest surviving cannon in the world . the earliest pictures of a cannon known today is from 1326 and show an almost identical cannon as this one .

the other picture is the morko cannon , estimated to 1350 - 1385 . but its more like a hakebus .

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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2009, 01:58:59 AM »
Any idea what the lettering on the second one says?

This end towards target.   There is even a little arrow for those who can't read.
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2009, 02:10:49 AM »
oooohhhh , is this the first Ruger model  ??   ;D ;D
yeah could be , as they was the first to build guns with cast parts .  :o

 I remember when one or another Ruger pistol (think it was the MK-II) came out, one gun rag writer noted that if you get tired of shooting it, you can read it  ;D
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2009, 02:53:50 AM »
 

Apparently someone in Denmark is reproducing this Gonne, take a look at this photo album..... 


http://picasaweb.google.dk/www.griffen.eu/BornholmsMiddelaldercenter2006#


Dan is there any way you can contact this fellow and find out more information?
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2009, 11:35:43 PM »
yeah it seem that someone already makes a similar gonne , but what I can see from the photos it doest have the engraved writing on it . if I could find some kind of contact info I would contact him .

I just got a reply from the historical museum in stockholm and those pictures .

the weight is 945 gram

I havent got the exact words of the writing yet , but they claim that its a missunderstood or contaminated phrase from the ave maria pray , in german and latin . the writing is only at the upper 3 surfaces of the gonne .

I will try to have better photos and the exact writing .

maybe even ask them if I could borrow the original to produce an  identical copy ,
but that will probably be difficult . they will of course not let it leave the museum ,
but maybe if I do it in the museum .
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2009, 01:29:39 AM »
...they claim that its a missunderstood or contaminated phrase from the ave maria pray...

 Ave Maria = Hail Mary.

 Handgonne not likely to hit target = Long pass into end zone not likely to be received.

 It's all coming together...
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Re: Christmas card cannon...
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2009, 11:33:26 AM »
some better photos I just recieved from the museum .
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« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2009, 11:44:12 AM »
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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2009, 02:15:25 AM »
I just got a 4.6 mb picture from the museum , if anyone want it in fullsize just send me an email :   dan610324@hotmail.com
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