Author Topic: Rage 2-Blade (Read 1571 times)

Redhawk1 · « **on:** April 29, 2009, 05:30:20 AM »

I have been a fixed blade broadhead shooter for over 30 years now, I have ordered some Rage 2-Blade broadhead's. I have heard some good things about them.

Anyone have experience on game with them? I am planning on using them this year on my black bear hunt in Maine.

Cottonwood · « **Reply #1 on:** April 30, 2009, 05:44:39 AM »

Awesome Picture Reviews

Rage 2 Blade Pictures - Game Results

huntswithdogs · « **Reply #2 on:** May 01, 2009, 09:07:06 AM »

I was looking thru the new Cabelas BowHuntin cataloge, last nite, and Rage now has a smaller 2 blade! I currently shoot the 3 blades, but have been considering the 2 blade deals. I've shot the practice 3 blade and one of the hunting heads into may target. Both shoot pretty dang close to my field points. The only problem I have with the 3 blade is, they wanna open up in my quiver. Maybe I ain't doing something right? Kinda sucks trying to get them closed before loading one onto your bow when it's still dark. No cut finger yet!
Do the 2 blade ones open up like this in ya'lls quivers?

HWD

addicted · « **Reply #3 on:** May 08, 2009, 11:24:23 AM »

I shot a Kansas doe at 50 yards with a 2-blade Rage and it went completely through.

She was no little girl either... she weighed in 190 on the hoof.

Great broadhead... you'll like them.

Good luck this season.

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #4 on:** May 08, 2009, 01:23:50 PM »

What is wrong with the current setup? Is stuff not dying? I'm all for capitalism and freedom to choose whatever you want to choose. You'll find that all these Rage promoters were absolutely ecstatic over the last broadhead they were using. I can in no way believe these people have reinvented the broadhead. I am not saying they do not work as advertised either, but , when is the last time you had a fixed blade broadhead fail to make it out the other side of a deer or blacky for that matter. If you put a broadhead into the shoulder socket it's game over the penetration is going to be poor I don't care if its arrow or rifle bullet for that matter.

Don't take me wrong if you want to try something different then God bless you and good luck with your hunt. I just don't think you are going to find a magic bullet in a Rage blister pack.

Cottonwood · « **Reply #5 on:** May 08, 2009, 06:30:32 PM »

Well Empty Quiver you could be right, but then again you could be wrong. There are so many broadheads out there that it gives us many choices to pick from. Some good, and some are pretty bad in the selection area. Some of these broadheads are not worth .02 cents. But rest assured there are some new ones on the market that are better than the old.

Your choice may not be what other choose, so let them be happy with their choice.

huntswithdogs · « **Reply #6 on:** May 09, 2009, 05:17:37 AM »

Empty,

I reckon it all comes down to something along the lines of the famous 270 vs 3006 or Ford vs Dodge vs Chevrolet debates.

I've tried various fixed and expandables, personally. I've not found the accuracy that I've found from the Rages. Others have fallen for all the commercials, but I tried these before I bought them. Maybe I'll get the chase top poke a deer with one this season.

HWD

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #7 on:** May 09, 2009, 09:03:18 AM »

Well I wasn't really trying to poo-poo on someone wanting a better broadhead. What I was doing was trying to figure out why a change was needed. ie. these no good Zwickey Eskimo's keep rusting and they whistle in flight, or, I am sick and tired of sharpening broadheads.

I've got a pretty nice supply of slightly used broadheads in a box. Every one of them "better" than the one I was replacing. There are several hundred dollars worth of machined al. and stamped stainless steel in that box. In the end every one of them produced a dead deer if I did my part. A few heads are in the trash proven too weak to even make it through pre season practice. After thirty years of shooting I'm going to leap to the conclusion that the OP can judge a crappy design when he see's one. Most likely the head he is currently using is of excellent construction and flies pretty darn good as well. Thirty years is a pretty good amount of time to fine tune ones equipment and skills.

I suppose my intent in posting was to remind people that you can waste a lot of time and money trying to reinvent the wheel. If on the other hand you just want a nice set of 24" spinners for that new Escalade get 'em, it is a free market and your decision after all is said and done.

Cottonwood · « **Reply #8 on:** May 09, 2009, 03:55:40 PM »

Hey Empty Quiver, if you don't want those ol broadheads I can use them for my Bowhunters Education Classes.

No you didn't poo poo on the thread. The fact is that many of todays broadheads are not necessary when the old designs still do work, and work quite well. But, the industry as a whole has created a new and improved feeling for those that want the new designs.

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #9 on:** May 09, 2009, 04:40:10 PM »

Good point on improving what is the current line of equipment. I remember when Thunderheads were putting the old Wasps to rest which made the first generation of Satelite heads obsolete.

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 09, 2009, 05:19:04 PM »

Quote from: Empty Quiver on May 08, 2009, 01:23:50 PM

What is wrong with the current setup? Is stuff not dying? I'm all for capitalism and freedom to choose whatever you want to choose. You'll find that all these Rage promoters were absolutely ecstatic over the last broadhead they were using. I can in no way believe these people have reinvented the broadhead. I am not saying they do not work as advertised either, but , when is the last time you had a fixed blade broadhead fail to make it out the other side of a deer or blacky for that matter. If you put a broadhead into the shoulder socket it's game over the penetration is going to be poor I don't care if its arrow or rifle bullet for that matter.

Don't take me wrong if you want to try something different then God bless you and good luck with your hunt. I just don't think you are going to find a magic bullet in a Rage blister pack.

To answer your question. I went to lighted nocks, and for what ever reason with the muzzy broadhead's, my groups and shots are all over the place. When I put a field tip on the arrow with the lighted nocks, I get tight groups once again.

Well today I tried out the new Rage 2 blade broadhead's. I put them on my arrows with the lighted nocks. my groups were so tight, I could not shoot at the same spot on my target. That is what I was looking for.

So my conclusion is, the lighted nocks and the muzzy broadhead's were not a good fit, for whatever reason. So for me, my accuracy with the Rage broadhead's is more important at this time. Now all I have to do is get a black bear in my sights, and I will see how they perform. One of my hunting buddies took 2 black bear's with the Rage 2 blade broadhead's, and had great success.

mirage1988 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 09, 2009, 05:54:56 PM »

Lighted nocks are a few grains heavier than standard nocks. Sounds to me like you might need a heavier broadhead if shooting a fixed blade. With the muzzy your arrows are planing a bit and the extra weight behind the fletching (the lighted nock) magnifies the problem. If your bow is out of tune or you are torquing the grip all problems will be magnified with broadheads which is another reason a lot of shooters are going to expandables because they are more forgiving. My bow shoots the standard muzzy 3-blade to the same poi as field points, but with the bigger mx-3 heads the arrows are hitting the target practically sideways. What fletching are you using redhawk?

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 12, 2009, 06:11:43 AM »

The broadheads I was using were the 4 blade Muzzy's 125 gr. I am using the 4 inch gold tip fletchings.

dukkillr · « **Reply #13 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:51:13 AM »

Last year I shot 3 bladed rages. I ran out of them so I decided to try 2 bladed ones this year.

This was my first experience with them:
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,156674.0.html

I was impressed with the results for both types.

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 13, 2009, 02:00:27 AM »

That is a very nice buck you got. I am encouraged with the feedback I am getting about the Rage broadhead's. I hope I have an opportunity to take a shot on a nice black bear with mine.

I am going to try and file my own hunt once again this year, as I did last year. Sometimes there is just too much to think about, but I pulled it off last year.

dukkillr, are you getting very good accuracy from the rage practice heads? My groups at 20 yards are so tight, I messed up a few arrows. I have to shoot at a different dot on my target to avoid messing up any more arrows. Also what arrows are you using, I am using the Ted Nugent Gold Tips 55/75.

dukkillr · « **Reply #15 on:** May 13, 2009, 05:40:23 AM »

I shoot Carbon Express CX 300s. 70lb draw about 27" draw length. I'd bet my arrows are shorter than yours which would affect the spine.

I never noticed a difference from the rages to the field tips, but I don't really shoot "groups" with the actual broadheads. I'll shoot one or two arrows several times to make sure they fly the same as field tips.

I don't practice at 20 yards much anymore. It covers up your mistakes too much because you can have terrible form and still get decent groups at 20 yards. I usually shoot 30, 40, and 50 in a good practice. When I was getting ready for last September's caribou hunt I practiced out to 70. You'd be amazed at how much easier 40 yards is when you're practicing at 70.

I'll be leaving for my spring bear hunt Friday but there will be no communication with the outside world for a week.

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 13, 2009, 08:58:18 AM »

I am using 70 lb draw weight as well, but I use full length arrows 32 inches. I don't shoot groups with the actual Rage broadhead's, I use the practice tips. But I am not shooting for groups with them any longer, I was just checking accuracy.

I also shoot at further distances, 20, 30 , 40 and 50 yards. I am still getting great accuracy at all 4 ranges. 95% of my shooting on game with my bow has been under 40 yards, that is just the type of area's I have hunted. My bear hunt is going to be 20 yards or less from the ground.

Good luck on your bear hunt. Are you using your bow?

dukkillr · « **Reply #17 on:** May 13, 2009, 07:14:33 PM »

Quote from: Redhawk1 on May 13, 2009, 08:58:18 AM

Good luck on your bear hunt. Are you using your bow?

Yes. Good luck to you as well.

cam69conv · « **Reply #18 on:** May 16, 2009, 07:49:27 AM »

Red, Question, Why are you using 32 inch arrows? If I remember correctly your draw length isn't but 29 or so. You have a poor window on your bow and have to extend past it? Just curious. Those 2 or 3 extra inches on your arrow can deflate speed a good bit not to mention pass throughs. Not greatly mind you but it will effect. The shorter arrow may also help with the FOC problem you were having with the Lighted nochs and Muzzy's.

As far as Empty Quivers comment. They actually HAVE reinvented the wheel when I comes to broadhead design bud. There are fixed broadheads out there that have eliminated the need for retuning from field points. Remember the old days when you had to get your broadhead to line up dead center with your fletchings? Not anymore. Remember when you would put a broadhead on your arrow and your arrow would be 6 inches low and 12 to the left? Not anymore. Technology isnt always about just marketing and commerce. Sometimes they actually get something right!

Red, As far as the rage BH's go I have heard nothing but good about them so far. I dont use mechanicals anymore since I found the G5 Montechs. Great performence dead on with my field tips, Pass throughs every time, Cut on impact tough design. Easily resharpenable so they are well worth the 30 or so bux a pack. I have 6 that I bought 6 years or so ago. All 6 have taken more than one deer and not a single nick an any. They hold a great edge as well. Good luck on your hunts this coming season.

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #19 on:** May 16, 2009, 09:20:26 AM »

I do remember broadhead problems. In my case figuring out how to properly mount the fixed blade to the shaft really helped, so did sorting out the ones that wern't jigged up properly before they were brazed/ welded. Fletching arrows so they turn in flight does wonders as well. Sounds to me like Redhawk1 is addressing a forward of center issue. If the new head fixes that then all is fine in his world and mine is good too. I have come to trust a plain old 125 grain Thunderhead on a 30" 2315 al shaft with 3 5" helicle fletches. That has been working out of my wheel bow forever, the stick I've adopted likes 2216 shafts and some old Bear Razorheads (baby crap yellow as a matter of fact). I have changed setups occasionally but really don't find that much improvement so find myself going back to the tried and true.

The Razorheads are 'bout all gone now, only three left so that is going to get upgraded to something. Maybe I can find some of those new Bodkins, been hearing good things about those. ( pick out one of those smiley things and put it here. My web fu is weak.) Is this how geezerdom begins? I just don't want to change anymore. I started with the stickbow mostly cause I can't get a compound that is finger shooter friendly, and after letting go of a release to often and target panic like results, it was easier to just hold the wieght and give up sights.

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 16, 2009, 01:06:47 PM »

Quote from: cam69conv on May 16, 2009, 07:49:27 AM

Red, Question, Why are you using 32 inch arrows? If I remember correctly your draw length isn't but 29 or so. You have a poor window on your bow and have to extend past it? Just curious. Those 2 or 3 extra inches on your arrow can deflate speed a good bit not to mention pass throughs. Not greatly mind you but it will effect. The shorter arrow may also help with the FOC problem you were having with the Lighted nochs and Muzzy's.

As far as Empty Quivers comment. They actually HAVE reinvented the wheel when I comes to broadhead design bud. There are fixed broadheads out there that have eliminated the need for retuning from field points. Remember the old days when you had to get your broadhead to line up dead center with your fletchings? Not anymore. Remember when you would put a broadhead on your arrow and your arrow would be 6 inches low and 12 to the left? Not anymore. Technology isnt always about just marketing and commerce. Sometimes they actually get something right!

Red, As far as the rage BH's go I have heard nothing but good about them so far. I dont use mechanicals anymore since I found the G5 Montechs. Great performence dead on with my field tips, Pass throughs every time, Cut on impact tough design. Easily resharpenable so they are well worth the 30 or so bux a pack. I have 6 that I bought 6 years or so ago. All 6 have taken more than one deer and not a single nick an any. They hold a great edge as well. Good luck on your hunts this coming season.

My draw length is 29 1/2 inches, and yes I use 32 inch arrows. Every animal I have shot, I have had pass through's with the muzzy's. Even when I was shooting aluminum arrows I shot 32 inch arrows. I have never had a problem with the muzzy's with either aluminum or carbon arrows, until I went with the lighted nocks. Now don't get me wrong, I can still kill animals with my set up with the lighted nocks and muzzy's, but my groups were not as tight as my field points or when I was not using the lighted nocks. When I was saying I was all over, I mean I shot all around a 2 inch circle and did not get my consistent arrows touching, or close to it. I am not talking 4 or 5 inch groups or anything like that. I just know what I am capable of grouping with my bow and that muzzy lighted nock set up was not doing it.

I already bought the Rage broadhead's and have been shooting them, and they fly great with the lighted nocks. I wanted to give them a try, and the performance of the muzzy's and the lighted nocks, gave me a reason to try the Rage. I have received a bunch of good reports from other Rage users, so I feel good about using them.

Yankee1 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 17, 2009, 04:52:11 PM »

I guess I'm way behind times. Cause I'm still shooting Satelites. Their still working well.
Yankee1