Tend to agree with you Apple, and actualy don't have many reasons to have a detachable trap on my drowner rigs. I also prefer to use a open ended swivel at the end of my chains for mink, coons, and rats. I do, however, prefer a detachable set-up on the beaver and otter line. I pre-cut and end loop the drowner cables at various lengths and have a drowner lock allready on it. These rigs are easily stored in ziplock bags, and seem to help keep things organized, assesablke, and quick setting on the "hike in" line. I also have a subconcious fear of "the weakest link" when dealing with otter, and feel better about rigging a quick link. Most likely just parinoia on my part, and honestly have no experience using wire for the bigger critters.