Author Topic: North american gaurdian or ruger lcp (Read 1544 times)

HUNTERTED · « **on:** May 04, 2009, 08:23:58 AM »

I would like a small 380 to carry and need help
making up my mind.

ncsurveyor · « **Reply #1 on:** May 04, 2009, 08:44:54 AM »

I have the Guardian.

The only problem I had was chamber was too tight. Sent it to Utah, and they polished it, then sent it back. They also replaced the springs. no charge. Wonderful customer service. Ranks up there with Henry rifles.

I got the IWB and standard holster with it.

They make a mag extension should you desire.

It has fired ALL factory and reloaded ammo I've put through it without a feed jam.

I carry the gun all of the time, regardless of attire.

Its a little heavier than the LCP I believe.

Mohawk · « **Reply #2 on:** May 04, 2009, 11:48:51 PM »

Beretta makes nice little .380's. Seen a lot of them fired at the gun range I used to work at and the customers seemed to love them.

Savage · « **Reply #3 on:** May 05, 2009, 07:04:37 AM »

Between the two mentioned, and considering the intended purpose, I'd settle for the lighter slightly more compact LCP.
Savage

rockbilly · « **Reply #4 on:** May 05, 2009, 04:32:54 PM »

For the additional power and slight diffrence in size I would go with the Kel-Tech P-9, cost is close and 9mm ammo is cheaper and much easier to come by, especially in a good self defense round, But between the two mentioned I would go with the Rugar.

shooter · « **Reply #5 on:** May 05, 2009, 10:26:19 PM »

I've owned both.Currently carry the LCP.It's lighter.
Shooter

Savage · « **Reply #6 on:** May 06, 2009, 01:50:04 AM »

Quote from: rockbilly on May 05, 2009, 04:32:54 PM

For the additional power and slight diffrence in size I would go with the Kel-Tech P-9, cost is close and 9mm ammo is cheaper and much easier to come by, especially in a good self defense round, But between the two mentioned I would go with the Rugar.

To me, the size difference between the PF9 & the P3AT/LCP is slight, but significant enough to make the PF9 too large for a pocket pistol. (My pockets anyway) The PF9 is still small/light enough to carry IWB and just forget it's there. These days I carry the PF9 as much as the P3AT.
Savage

GH1 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 06, 2009, 02:08:29 PM »

Have you considered a Bersa? I bought one after spending some time firing a co-workers and I'm quite happy with it. There's a post on this forum about them, and if you do a little internet research you can find many positive reviews amongst magazine articles & user groups.
Just my two cents.
GH1

Savage · « **Reply #8 on:** May 07, 2009, 01:26:10 AM »

The Bersa is a nice gun, but the OP wants a nice Little pistol in .380. The Bersa is in the compact 9mm size range, and heavier than most of those. For the size pistol the OP wants, it really comes down to the LCP or the P3AT. Haven't seen the Kahr compact .380 yet. It may be a player in that market as well.
Savage

ncsurveyor · « **Reply #9 on:** May 07, 2009, 01:36:56 AM »

Quote from: Savage on May 07, 2009, 01:26:10 AM

.....Haven't seen the Kahr compact .380 yet. It may be a player in that market as well.

Suspect the Kahr will be similar to the NAA. Kahr made the frame for the Guardian.

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it really comes down to the LCP or the P3AT

Still supporting that silightly heavier all metal Guardian.

44 Man · « **Reply #10 on:** May 09, 2009, 11:04:37 AM »

Having had a NNA Guardian, I would vote hands down for the LCP. Nothing wrong with the Guardian, but it is much heavier than the LCP. When you are carrying one in your pocket for extended periods, the weight does make a difference. Even when carrying a belt gun for CCW, lighter and smaller is always preferable. Savage does make a point about the close size of the PF9, but to me, it is still not a pocket pistol. You CAN carry it in a pocket, but it is not ideal. It is better in a IWB holster and is my prefered carry gun at this time. Savage is correct in that it IS much easier to find 9mm ammo than .380 at this time. 44 Man

S.S. · « **Reply #11 on:** May 10, 2009, 06:15:45 PM »

Find a Grendel P12 and polish the crap out of every metal part
to get it to work right and be good to go. It is kind of the
"Grandpa" of the guns you mentioned.

Robert357 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 12, 2009, 12:48:10 PM »

Quote from: 44 Man on May 09, 2009, 11:04:37 AM

Nothing wrong with the Guardian, but it is much heavier than the LCP. When you are carrying one in your pocket for extended periods, the weight does make a difference. Even when carrying a belt gun for CCW, lighter and smaller is always preferable.

I want to echo this advice.

I have a KelTec P3AT (.380 Auto) that is quite similar to the Ruger LCP and find it is pocketable and light enough to carry in a pocket. Heavier handguns as 44 Man says especially for pocket carry can be problematic, especially if you carry an extra full clip in the same pocket.

HUNTERTED · « **Reply #13 on:** May 15, 2009, 02:56:39 AM »

Well I got the gaurdian with crimson laser grips
and I should have listened you guys and got
the kel-tec this thing is heavy carried for two days
already and I dont like it.

ncsurveyor · « **Reply #14 on:** May 15, 2009, 03:17:32 AM »

Quote from: HUNTERTED on May 15, 2009, 02:56:39 AM

Well I got the gaurdian with crimson laser grips
and I should have listened you guys and got
the kel-tec this thing is heavy carried for two days
already and I dont like it.

pocket or holster?

HUNTERTED · « **Reply #15 on:** May 15, 2009, 03:45:30 AM »

pocket holster uncle mikes #1

HUNTERTED · « **Reply #16 on:** May 15, 2009, 03:50:51 AM »

I guess i am going to sell it a get a p3at

HUNTERTED · « **Reply #17 on:** May 15, 2009, 04:07:28 AM »

Posted on firearms list for sale today .

HUNTERTED · « **Reply #18 on:** May 15, 2009, 08:03:44 AM »

traded naa got me a p3at kal-tec and a 870 youth 20 ga
rifled slug gun and crimson lg430 laser even trade.
now i am happy its a lot lighter and compact.

bluecow · « **Reply #19 on:** May 18, 2009, 04:32:17 AM »

look at the micro desert eagle. looks interesting but $$