Author Topic: Loud Pipes (Read 8051 times)

BlkHawk73 · « **Reply #30 on:** May 08, 2009, 12:32:39 PM »

Glad to see ppl are able to accept and have respect for each other here.

Just as happy to see that ppl are able to have respect for another opinion if it differs from their own.

I stick by my opinions too. Guess I'm jealous and envious too.

wareagleguy · « **Reply #31 on:** May 08, 2009, 02:23:13 PM »

It is a good thing I am not LEO cause if I was I would be a ticket writing SOB.

Requadless of your reason you do not have the right to make so much noise to wake me up in my house because you are scared.

Show me any study that shows loud pipes save lives.

BlkHawk73 · « **Reply #32 on:** May 08, 2009, 02:40:53 PM »

Bingo! You enjoyment of volume is within one's rights but it ends when it interferes with mine. I guess to some this goes unseen (blinded by one's own opinions) but again, common courtesy...well not so common I guess either.
I'd also like to see some actual study where it's shown loud is safe.

wareagleguy · « **Reply #33 on:** May 08, 2009, 05:14:23 PM »

It's not just bikes.
I live about 15 miles from the town of Phil Campbell, Al. The train runs right through the middle of town and I can hear the damn thing in my bedroom. 15 MILES!!!
No reason for it cause every crossing has a block so that damn loud horn is NOT NEEDED.

I always see the guy with that damn loud bike is more like look at me, I am sooooo cool. I am loud, so everyone can hear me. Day or night.
Grow up.

mirage1988 · « **Reply #34 on:** May 08, 2009, 05:33:11 PM »

Warchicken-
If your ears are so sensitive that a train 15 miles away bothers you- get earplugs! A honda spree must give you a migraine then?

re-read the title of this forum- It is called "bikers who hunt and shoot", NOT "scooters and crossbows"

Go whine someplace else!

Cheesehead · « **Reply #35 on:** May 08, 2009, 05:50:20 PM »

This reminds me of my dog, since he has gone completely deaf, he is finally at peace with the world, otherwise he hated everything that made a noise. Moral of the story; go deaf or stop being a hater.

Cheese

mirage1988 · « **Reply #36 on:** May 08, 2009, 05:51:56 PM »

mirage1988 · « **Reply #37 on:** May 08, 2009, 05:58:00 PM »

Wish there was a forum for hunters and shooters that ride american bikes, drive american trucks and shoot american guns, there must be at least two of us here?

BlkHawk73 · « **Reply #38 on:** May 09, 2009, 12:28:55 AM »

American bikes....that narrows it down a LOT - Remember a LOT of those covented HD's aren't US.

American trucks...same as above

American guns...that one is a easier but...

I ride a Triumph, drive Toyotas and shoot HK's...

GRIMJIM · « **Reply #39 on:** May 09, 2009, 02:45:58 AM »

How about we drop the arguments and name calling and get back on topic.

Respect for others remember?

I'm removing a post or two and if it doesn't mellow out I'll lock this topic. I'm getting complaints.

Beers · « **Reply #40 on:** May 09, 2009, 05:14:48 AM »

You need a study to prove the blindingly (or deafeningly, as the case may be) obvious? Bikes are small, and difficult for drivers of larger vehicles to see, especially in heavy traffic. When I'm in traffic with someone that's practically eye-level with my running board, I like to have some way of knowing where they are.

There's no question in my mind as to whether or not loud pipes make a biker safer.

As I said before, I don't ride - So I don't have a dog in this fight. No, I don't like it when I'm attempting to take advantage of a rare opportunity to sleep in and I'm jolted awake by the group of bikers thundering up Rt 7... I still think that bikes should actually be required to make a certain level of noise in order to pass inspection.

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #41 on:** May 09, 2009, 06:04:18 AM »

Most places do require a bike to meet noise restrictions, They are not enforced to heavily thou. In most states it is against the law to modify your exhaust at all but most people do so go figure it out, I can't.

Loud pipes do not make you a biker thou, Riding a Harley dosen't make you one. Riding a bike because you want to makes you one.

Beers · « **Reply #42 on:** May 09, 2009, 06:52:00 AM »

I wasn't talking about a restriction on how loud they can be, What I meant would be a restriction on how quiet they can be.

horsepower · « **Reply #43 on:** May 09, 2009, 11:00:36 AM »

Quote from: mirage1988 on May 07, 2009, 01:20:31 PM

Quote from: horsepower on May 06, 2009, 05:37:56 PM
When I'm sitting at a light, I sometimes lay my hand on the tank to feel the vibration and make sure it hasn't died!!

Seriously!?

Seriously, it is very quiet. But I also have a helmut that blocks out a lot of sound. In a half helmut or a looser fitting one, I could hear it as it isn't a problem to hear if I fire it up to move it out of the way in the garage or something. But it is one of the quietest bikes I have ever seen.

GRIMJIM · « **Reply #44 on:** May 09, 2009, 12:32:04 PM »

I've had that also when riding in a pack. As I said my bike is a little louder than stock but when you have a large group all running at the same time it is hard to tell sometimes if it's your bike you hear or the one next to you.

horsepower · « **Reply #45 on:** May 09, 2009, 12:43:28 PM »

I rode with a group a couple weeks ago. I could hear the bikes in front of and behind me but not my own!!

wareagleguy · « **Reply #46 on:** May 09, 2009, 01:21:52 PM »

Made in America doesn't mean what it did in the past. Most of the parts of all "American" made is NOT american made. Including Harley.

Swampman · « **Reply #47 on:** May 09, 2009, 02:25:26 PM »

Most Harley parts are made in America. Putting loud pipes (and removing all the decals) on a rice burner won't make it a Harley.

I like loud pipes.

Cheesehead · « **Reply #48 on:** May 09, 2009, 02:42:56 PM »

Quote from: wareagleguy on May 09, 2009, 01:21:52 PM

Made in America doesn't mean what it did in the past. Most of the parts of all "American" made is NOT american made. Including Harley.

Does "most" mean more than 50% ?

Cheese

buck460XVR · « **Reply #49 on:** May 09, 2009, 03:05:22 PM »

so much anger.

hillbill · « **Reply #50 on:** May 10, 2009, 02:11:38 AM »

what nobody seems to remember is the original reason for loud pipes.some of the old knucks, pans and shovels would just run better, when yu removed the mufflers.they started easier and gave more peak horsepower when useing a unrestricted exhuast.exactly the case with a shovel i had for years.after getting stopped by the cops a couple times i tried to put a quieter type exhaust on it with no success. it just wouldnt start worth a crap. as it was kick start only, ease of starting was fairly important.

varmintman · « **Reply #51 on:** May 10, 2009, 03:06:09 PM »

OH my, well anyway I like the sound of harleys and if a bunch went by my place at night and woke me up I would just smile. My hog has thunderheader exhaust on it and more then once has scared critters off the road such as deer because they HEARD me comeing Deer have been getting alot of bikers in my area lately. Have a good evening.

deernhog · « **Reply #52 on:** May 14, 2009, 07:49:43 AM »

I luv loud pipes and have no problem saying so. Myron stick to your guns man and don't change with the flow like some do. I still don't like scooters, I wear sleeveless shirts and you can see my tattoos any time I feel the need. I don't care for the all the tourist that jump in around here and stir the bucket. A little anonimity goes a long way in creating bravery on here. When in person you would back way the heck off or find out just how committed you are to the subjects throwed out around here. Have a nice day or kiss my assets your choice

Uncle Howie · « **Reply #53 on:** February 03, 2010, 11:01:00 AM »

I think loud pipes from a few are going to be the undoing of us all, eventually. It doesn't matter if it's H-D straight pipes, or pipes on a repli-racer from one of the Big Four, running down the road at 10K rpm. Even the AMA has finally started to address the issue.

Loud pipes are likely going to be the undoing for any type of motorized recreation- bikes, ATVs, jet skis, cars, pickups. The public is just tired of it, and there's a lot more of them than there is us. Like it or not.

I happen to ride a very quiet bike. I like it that way. I do lots of long-distance touring, and noise is just one more factor contributing to fatigue. I wear a Hi-Viz jacket, have lots of reflective material on my bike, and have supplemental lighting front and rear. I think these give me as much conspicuity as loud pipes, with none of the bad PR... Hi-Viz may not be real high on the cool factor, but I can tell the difference in other vehicle's behavior toward me when I wear it.

Just to stir the pot- why do so many folks with loud pipes feel the need to rev the engine incessantly while at a stoplight or while backing into a parking space? I asked a guy with straight pipes when his brand put in a reverse gear. He told me he didn't have a reverse gear. I asked him why he was revving the engine while backing up.

I don't think he even picked up on my sarcasm...

hillbill · « **Reply #54 on:** February 03, 2010, 01:53:10 PM »

oh sum harleys depending on how the carb is jetted, yu need to blip the throttle a lot to to keep the cumbustion chambers from wetting down, makeing it harder to start when yu shut it off.same at a stop light. my shovel would wet up and run like crap for a second or two if yu didnt keep it cleared out at a stop light. for older riders it getsa to be a habit even when they graduate to a fuel injected type bike like the newer harleys.

hillbill · « **Reply #55 on:** February 03, 2010, 02:10:11 PM »

to add, some of the newer evo bikes,when yu put straight pipes on them, they dont run so well with the lack of backpressure. the older bikes liked no backpressure, the newer ones will load up and kinda flood out at low rpms.so yu keep blippin the throttle to keep them running. oh and there are those that just like to announce their arrival.yu spend 20 grand for a bike and whatever it costs to keep a good looking chik on the bak of it, yu may want people to see yu.

bobg · « **Reply #56 on:** February 03, 2010, 03:08:32 PM »

I don't ride anymore due to health reasons but when i did i liked load pipes. No special reason. I just like to hear it. What does bug the heck of of me is the guy that goes by my house every morning at 5:30 with what sounds like no exhaust system at all on his truck.
bobg

skarke · « **Reply #57 on:** February 04, 2010, 03:35:21 AM »

This'll raise the hair on some of our necks, but it is the way many of us non-riders feel. I equate loud pipes to the bass booming rap playing stereos in teenagers' cars. I certainly don't mind if a youngster wants to deafen himself with the windows up, but why roll them down? He has to know that there are very few that find his music pleasurable.

Following those lines, there are excellent pipes that provide almost exactly the same performance as the ones that make Harleys as loud as aircraft engines, but people choose the loud ones because they the riders like the sound. Why must I need to turn up my radio so that I can hear Merle?

To me, it is an issue of common courtesy, and yes, I would vote for noise pollution regulation (don't shoot me, I just thought an honest opinion from a motorcycle loving, but non-riding citizen would be helpful

).

guzzijohn · « **Reply #58 on:** February 04, 2010, 04:39:13 AM »

Well, as the old saying goes:
If you think loud pipes save lives think what improved riding skills would do for you. Plus those loud pipes would be much more effective if you could point those pipes forward. Just say'n.
Guzzi John

myronman3 · « **Reply #59 on:** February 04, 2010, 05:24:02 AM »

you get run off the road once and you will want EVERY advantage you can get. there are soooo many times approaching an intersection when a car is rolling like it is going to go through it, a cover the breaks, pull the clutch and twist the throttle to snort the engine and watch that head spin and the car hit the breaks. that has happened more times than i can count. anyone who thinks it doesnt raise awareness of a cycle in the the area, is only kidding themselves. those of us who ride see it often enough that we know how it really is.