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How lucky can you be?
« on: May 17, 2009, 02:24:36 PM »
These are some nice fellows from Arkansas that I met a couple of years ago. They are both enthusiastic and lucky to say the least. The man in red is tending the one that blew apart. Actually, before it blew apart. 
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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2009, 02:37:27 PM »
Darn >:(  I wish they could have been blown up. I mean the images ???  Really some interesting action. Maybe a computer wiz can.

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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2009, 02:44:27 PM »
I think that might have made a good carbide cannon.  Well, maybe not GOOD.  But certainly NOT blackpowder.

Some folks are most fortunate to still be alive.  (I count myself to be in that category!)

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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2009, 03:20:29 PM »
I have a Dom dictator and soon to have his latest GB Parrott.  Even though I don't go beyond the recommended loads, these types of images are the ones that flash before my eyes just after lighting the fuse. 

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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2009, 03:33:52 PM »
Awful thin wall barrel for any kind of charge.  Garden ornament if you ask me.
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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2009, 03:34:30 PM »
That is one of those cheap cast iron decorator cannons.  The big mistake was from the person who drilled the vent and made it a shooter.  Also, it appears from the photo of the breech fragment, that the break possibly initiated right at the edge of the reinforcing band which is a stress riser weak area and the break tapered to a point as it peeled away from the barrel.  [Not that it makes a difference since it was never intended to be fired in the first place.]

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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2009, 03:59:56 PM »
That is one of those cheap cast iron decorator cannons.  The big mistake was from the person who drilled the vent and made it a shooter.  Also, it appears from the photo of the breech fragment, that the break possibly initiated right at the edge of the reinforcing band which is a stress riser weak area and the break tapered to a point as it peeled away from the barrel.  [Not that it makes a difference since it was never intended to be fired in the first place.]

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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2009, 04:44:57 PM »
There is this dope from Ga. on Gun Broker selling a garden cannon for 12,000.00

discribes it as 3" cannon probably from the revolution............

photo from his auction........  ::)




I hope this never gets into the hands of the uninformed both from the money stand point

and the safety stand point!

Glad to hear no one was hurt by this incident reported above!
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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2009, 07:42:26 PM »
The Good Shepherd was going to let these two eliminate themselves from the gene pool, but St. Barbara intervened, and save them from being blown to smitherens. Object lesson here...always make sure of what your going to fire before you get someone hurt or killed. A little knowledge in this case would have gone a long way, and prevented even the loading, let alone firing, of this garden ornament! BoomLover
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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2009, 10:04:00 PM »
 I was just the other day googling cannon accidents. I read more than a few where people were injured or killed 50+ yards away from an exploding cannon. One guy was badly injured by a chunk thrown what they said was "hundreds of yards."

 Running 20' away from a cannon after lighting the fuse is a false sense of security.
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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2009, 05:00:30 AM »
how can anyone be stupid enough to even get the idea to put some blackpowder in a garden decoration with probably no more then 1/4" cast iron in wall thickness ??

I would guess that the caliber is approximately 2"

just waiting to see the first idiot who will try to build a mortat from an empty toilet paper tube .

is there people in this world who have been born without anything between their ears ??

its a pity that the pictures are so very tiny .
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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2009, 06:11:35 AM »
Trying to enlarge for Dan?

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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2009, 06:24:15 AM »
richard
I hope that you have told your friends some about what to do and most important what to NOT do after this accident

they are sure lucky to be alive .
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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2009, 06:58:38 AM »
how can anyone be stupid enough to even get the idea to put some blackpowder in a garden decoration with probably no more then 1/4" cast iron in wall thickness ??
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We are a nation of idoits. 

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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2009, 07:13:40 AM »
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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2009, 07:25:11 AM »
We are a nation of idiots.

The last election certainly demonstrated that.
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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2009, 07:43:07 AM »
USA aint the only nation , I know as I live in another one with too many of them .
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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2009, 08:14:14 AM »
First Cat misspells idiot, which is hilarious in its own right (forgive me Cat), then Cannonmn makes a jest directed at Cat's faux pas, and to top everything off, George then gets blatantly political. For shame, for shame, such breeches of protocol have left me dumbfounded. Well, don't anyone get to happy, I exaggerated, maybe I'll just hold a sixty second silent vigil.
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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2009, 08:38:33 AM »
First Cat misspells idiot, which is hilarious in its own right (forgive me Cat), then Cannonmn makes a jest directed at Cat's faux pas, and to top everything off, George then gets blatantly political. For shame, for shame, such breeches of protocol have left me dumbfounded. Well, don't anyone get to happy, I exaggerated, maybe I'll just hold a sixty second silent vigil.

You're forgiven.   :D
We all have to laugh at ourselves.
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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2009, 09:04:25 AM »
You're forgiven.   :D
We all have to laugh at ourselves.
I feel sorry for those folks that can't.

I'm with you all the way on this pronouncement, Tim.
RIP John. While on vacation July 4th 2013 in northern Wisconsin, he was ATVing with family and pulled ahead of everyone and took off at break-neck speed without a helmet. He lost control.....hit a tree....and the tree won.  He died instantly.

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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2009, 10:58:02 AM »
correction. Less than half of us are "idiots". :-*
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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2009, 11:50:01 AM »
correction. Less than half of us are "idiots". :-*

Scott Adams, in one of his books on management, describes in some detail how EACH of us in one dimension or another, is an idiot.  All of his books that I've read have been well worth the read.

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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2009, 12:11:32 PM »
Maybe I should have said "the last two elections (primaries and general)."
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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2009, 12:35:55 PM »
I kinda like Cat's "idoit."  Rhymes with "adroit" so it must be something positive, right?  Remember those '30 movies where everyone spoke with British accents and the'd say "You Eedjot!"  I liked that.  Maybe Cat's word oughtta be pronounced "Eee-doit."  Then only you and your drinkin' buddies will know you are insulting someone, and crack up while the victim remains in the dark.

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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2009, 01:49:45 PM »
Ahhh, humor, where would we be without it?

My spelling ability comes from being a long time member of A.O.D. -  Dyslectics of America.
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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2009, 04:19:55 PM »
Clever, Cat......but how many are going to pick it up? ::)
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Re: How lucky can you be?
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2009, 04:39:00 PM »
At least Cat made a stab at writing idiot late last night in my post i couldn't

remember how to spell it so I used dope......   ::) no the word silly!

Still I gotta get my meds straight.........


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« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2009, 11:54:07 PM »
 Look right at the top about 1 o'clock in the pic that CW enlarged to 200%. I think that might be the piece that separated.

 I read a post the other day on another forum where a helpful guy suggested a poster "proof test" his cannon by firing it after filling the barrel with sand.
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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2009, 12:58:05 AM »
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 I read a post the other day on another forum where a helpful guy suggested a poster "proof test" his cannon by firing it after filling the barrel with sand.


There might be a legal phrase for that.  It could use the word 'accessory' or 'intent'.
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« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2009, 12:59:28 AM »
Clever, Cat......but how many are going to pick it up? ::)

I can't say because that involves counting.  There are three kinds of people in the world - those that can count and those that can't.   ;D
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