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What commercial casters use Veral's lube?
« on: May 17, 2009, 03:06:29 PM »
Hello.  I'm a recreational shooter who doesn't cast bullets.  I've thought of it, but I'm just not interested.  In my head, lead bullets are (or should be?) cheaper than jacketed.  I've also heard that they can be more accurate and allow your barrel to last longer.  Still, not interested in becoming a caster.

I've tried a couple or three different commercial cast bullet sources for my pistol(s), but they lead TERRIBLY.  Most recent example is with moderate loads in my 10mm auto pistol.  At ~1050 fps, they're leaving gigantic quantities of lead in the bore.  Not exactly inaccurate, so that's good, but I don't appreciate all the lead.

So, I'm wondering whether any commercial casters use Veral's magical lube?

Thanks.

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Re: What commercial casters use Veral's lube?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2009, 08:38:52 PM »
  The only commercial caster using my lube at present is Montana Bullet Works, but their bullets are hand cast and sized, which demands a premium price, up there with jacketed, I believe.  But they WILL outperform jacketed.  Probably more than you want to pay.

  The simplest fix if to purchase a couple sticks of our blue soft solid lube, which is much like modeling clay in consistency at room temperature.  Wipe just a little off the stick with the index finger of your master hand, then smear it very lightly over whatever lube the commercial caster is using.  In most cases your leading problem will go away and accuracy will improve.  Lube won't improve poorly made bullets, of coarse, so stick to the bullets you are now using with satisfactory accuracy.

  All shooters need to understand the hard facts of commercial bullet casting.  They sell their bullets almost as cheaply as you can buy the same alloy, and make their profit on the difference in wholesale lead bought in large volume and retail lead in small volume.  Since very few of their customers understand a thing about cast bullets or how to make them work, and because they operate on a shoestring budget, they use the cheapest lube they can buy.  Those who can't live with the performance start casting their own.  Those who are content with a loud bang and holes somewhere on the paper most of the time, buy commercial cast. (That last is a bit slanderous to many commercial casters who do turn out good quality, but don't realize how important good lube is.)  (May I make this real clear.  Slander is a visious lie, and I don't do it, but I do want to drive a point home.)

  The little smear of LBT lube will make the well cast commercial cast shoot very well in most cases.  If they are undersize and allow blowby, (which causes leading) but playing with powder charges till you get the bullet bases to obturate will normally fix that problem.  In other words, if you still have leading with LBT added, and your loads are mild, up the charge to max in the manual you are using.
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Re: What commercial casters use Veral's lube?
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2009, 10:07:55 AM »
Thank you very much, Veral.  I read many and many a post of yours here before asking my question, and based on what I read in response to various questions about leading, and based on what I've fiddled with so far to try to stop the issue, it appears to me to be a lube problem.

If you think I can just wipe a bit of your magic lube over the top of the waxy stuff that's on these, perhaps I'll try that as a first step.  Thank you!

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Re: What commercial casters use Veral's lube?
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2009, 08:46:28 PM »
  I didn't call it magic lube, but do dearly love the term, and believe you'll still use it after trying our lube!
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