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3 blade vs 4 blade
« on: May 19, 2009, 03:35:31 AM »
I have had an outfitter tell me that a 3 blade will make a better cut and
blood trail than a 4 blade and NO mechanicals
any response to this.
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Re: 3 blade vs 4 blade
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2009, 10:16:27 AM »
Well... That outfitter needs an archery lesson. Its dependant on the Broadhead itself. Some 3 blades do make a better wound than some 4 blades and vise versa. The are no absolutes in broadheads. There are some mechanicals that do AWSOME wound channels such as the Rage broadheads. It not only according to the broadhead but also what animal you are going for. I personaly would not hunt with that so called outfitter just because of that statement he made. Shows me he doesnt have any true experience in the real world or he has just guided people with absolutely no knowledge in archery products. If going for Elk then I personaly would recommend a fixed blade. There are many that like, and are successful, with mechanicals but I know my G5 Montecs are going to penetrate at that critical quartering away shot and I have seen mechanicals just rip down the side not penetrating. Just my lil ole 2 cents worth good luck on your hunting experiences this year! 
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Re: 3 blade vs 4 blade
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2009, 03:52:41 AM »
I don't know a lot about any of them but the Slick Tricks and G5 sure
look good and have a good story. The Rage 2 blade may get a try this year
also.
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Re: 3 blade vs 4 blade
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2009, 07:55:33 PM »
I used the Slick Trick for my first hunt and I don't think I will
change soon! That little blade dropped the kudu real fast.

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Re: 3 blade vs 4 blade
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2009, 12:34:40 AM »
I have had an outfitter tell me that a 3 blade will make a better cut and
blood trail than a 4 blade and NO mechanicals
any response to this.


Find another guide. Shot placement is the biggest key to archery kills. It does not sound like that guide know about archery.
Remind the outfitter that the Native Americans killed buffalo with, wooden arrows with stone broadhead's.

I have killed a lot of game with 2,3 and 4 bladed broadhead's. All made big holes in the animal. As for mechanicals, this is going to be my first year using them on something other than deer. I have had great reports from buddies that use them as well as from other hunters.
I am going black bear hunting, and using 2 bladed Rage mechanicals.  My buddy took 2 black bear with them, and the bear's did not make it further than 30 yards. He said the blood trails were very easy to follow, there was blood every where.
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Re: 3 blade vs 4 blade
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2009, 05:11:37 AM »
"there was blood every where"
sounds good. ::)
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Re: 3 blade vs 4 blade
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2009, 06:23:55 AM »
"there was blood every where"
sounds good. ::)

So what is wrong with what I said?  When the guy explained that blood was sprayed all over the tree's and bushes and all over the ground.

What exactly is your issue with what I said?

If you have your opinion already, why ask for any response?  ::)
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Re: 3 blade vs 4 blade
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2009, 10:06:48 AM »
"there was blood every where"
sounds good. ::)

So what is wrong with what I said?  When the guy explained that blood was sprayed all over the tree's and bushes and all over the ground.

What exactly is your issue with what I said?

If you have your opinion already, why ask for any response?  ::)

I NEVER SAID ANYTHING WAS WRONG
if you will read i said blood every where sounds go to me,thought that was the idea.
MAN get a grip, i think :-* ::) you must have an issue.

and yes i have an opinion doesn't every one, you notice i still haven't aired mine.
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Re: 3 blade vs 4 blade
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2009, 11:54:03 AM »
I have always used fixed two blade,usually get complete pass through if it dont hit bone,
Makes for a good blood trail.I know alot swear by the mechanicals,might try some in the two blade,never to old to try something new. :D
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Re: 3 blade vs 4 blade
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2009, 12:41:27 PM »
"there was blood every where"
sounds good. ::)

So what is wrong with what I said?  When the guy explained that blood was sprayed all over the tree's and bushes and all over the ground.

What exactly is your issue with what I said?

If you have your opinion already, why ask for any response?  ::)

I NEVER SAID ANYTHING WAS WRONG
if you will read i said blood every where sounds go to me,thought that was the idea.
MAN get a grip, i think :-* ::) you must have an issue.

and yes i have an opinion doesn't every one, you notice i still haven't aired mine.

It was using the roll eyes that made me think you were being sarcastic.  That is what that icon is usually used for.
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Re: 3 blade vs 4 blade
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2009, 12:42:31 PM »
I have always used fixed two blade,usually get complete pass through if it dont hit bone,
Makes for a good blood trail.I know alot swear by the mechanicals,might try some in the two blade,never to old to try something new. :D

I am with you there.  ;)
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Re: 3 blade vs 4 blade
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2009, 04:06:45 PM »
OK  no harm done.
From what i have heard here. I think i am going to try the rage 2 blade, but i am going to also try the Slick trick mag 125 or griss trick 125
and the G5   Montec 3 blade fixed
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Re: 3 blade vs 4 blade
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2009, 04:31:55 PM »
OK  no harm done.
From what i have heard here. I think i am going to try the rage 2 blade, but i am going to also try the Slick trick mag 125 or griss trick 125
and the G5   Montec 3 blade fixed

Let me know if you try the 2 blade Rage and how it works for you. I will be using them on my up coming black bear hunt in August.

I have tried the G5  Montec 3 blade fixed broadhead's with not such great results as far as accuracy. My groups with the broadhead's were not impressive to say the least. I have used the 4 blade muzzy's for many years with great success, up until I went to lighted nocks, and my accuracy went to crap. The Rage broadhead's fly great and my accuracy is extremely good, even with the lighted nocks. .
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Re: 3 blade vs 4 blade
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2009, 08:16:51 PM »
OK  no harm done.
From what i have heard here. I think i am going to try the rage 2 blade, but i am going to also try the Slick trick mag 125 or griss trick 125
and the G5   Montec 3 blade fixed

Let me know if you try the 2 blade Rage and how it works for you. I will be using them on my up coming black bear hunt in August.

I have tried the G5  Montec 3 blade fixed broadhead's with not such great results as far as accuracy. My groups with the broadhead's were not impressive to say the least. I have used the 4 blade muzzy's for many years with great success, up until I went to lighted nocks, and my accuracy went to crap. The Rage broadhead's fly great and my accuracy is extremely good, even with the lighted nocks. .


Gotta say red...You are the first person That I have heard of to have a problem with the G5's. I bust nochs with them as does everyone else I know that has them and thats a LOT of people. Never had one fail to pass through either.
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Re: 3 blade vs 4 blade
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2009, 08:22:12 PM »
Redhawk is blaming the lighted nocks. Are you using the good ones (lumenock) or the cheap ones?  The lumenocks are a few grains heavier, but not enough to throw your whole setup out of whack unless you are on the ragged edge to start with.

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Re: 3 blade vs 4 blade
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2009, 01:21:29 AM »
Redhawk is blaming the lighted nocks. Are you using the good ones (lumenock) or the cheap ones?  The lumenocks are a few grains heavier, but not enough to throw your whole setup out of whack unless you are on the ragged edge to start with.


When I was using the  G5's, I was not using lighted nocks. They did not do well as I expected they would. I tried every thing from making sure the arrows were balanced well and the arrows were paper tuned. I tied lining up the broadhead different ways with the fetching's. I then gave my buddy the remainder of my G5's and he had similar problems.

 
My other problem with arrow flight was when I was using my Muzzy's with the lighted nocks. I never had a problem until I installed the lighted nocks.
I am using the Fire Nocks, and they are not cheap at all. As soon as I put the field tips on the arrows with the fire nocks, my groups tightened right up. So I figured it had to be the combination of the Muzzy's and the fire nocks.
When I put the Rage broadhead's on, the groups stayed tight. I then tried the Muzzy's once again and my groups opened back up.
With the Rage and fire nocks, my groups are very tight. I busted a few nocks with them before I started shooting at different dots on the target.

The problem I was having with the Muzzy's and the Fire nocks was, the arrows were not consistent. I could of still used them to kill game, but they were not as good as I think they should of been.

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Re: 3 blade vs 4 blade
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2009, 04:06:21 AM »
I am hopfuly going to N.M. Sept. for elk.
I went to the Pro shop yesterday to shoot, the tech says let me chrono
your new bow. Shooting Easton game getter 2219, 31" 125 field tip
197 fps, then he says try these Easton epic carbon (old model) 242 fps
SO GUESS WHAT! I had to have 6 (new model)  supposed to be middle of
the road between speed and penatration, having them fletched with blazers.
I have the new bow set at 29" draw and 58lbs (may go to 70lbs maybe not)
 I have some muzzy 125, and 2-3 other broadheads and 3 rage 2 practice tips.
Have never shot the G5 or slick trick  I  ;Dreally like the looks of the new slick trick
grizz trick, nasty looking


OBTW
I need to stay out of that pro shop
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