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« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2003, 01:03:43 AM »
I hunt with my Shiloh Sharps in 45-70 with black powder and paper patch bullets. But I do switch guns according to conditions.
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« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2003, 03:35:17 PM »
I recently picked up a Stevens Schuetzen Junior, in .25-21 Stevens. It's a great looking, accurate rifle, but too small for most big game. I will take it next spring, when I go varmint hunting. It should do the job on small game and coyotes!
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« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2003, 05:31:10 PM »
I've carried my Browning 1885 Low Wall (.243) deer hunting a few times. Unfortunately no deer yet for her though.

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« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2003, 03:16:32 PM »
As of 4 PM today, my Ruger #1 in 6mm Rem added a very large 8 point buck to its total(at 10 AM). I bought the rifle in 1967(actually recieved it in 68) and it's accounted for around 22 Deer. At 4 PM the NEF Handi in 45/70 added deer 24(large doe) to it's score; been shooting that one for 13 years now.   I suspect they work all right.

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« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2003, 03:58:07 PM »
When not packin' a Winchester lever I carry my Browning B-78 30-06 that I bought new in '78. Several Blacktail and Mule Deer have fallen to it. None has required a second shot.
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« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2003, 09:24:29 AM »
I just got back from John Taylor at Taylor Machine what amounts to an American-Style rook rifle, chambered for the .32 S&W Long revolver cartridge.

I had laying around an old pre-war H&R .410 single-shot shotgun.  This was one of the tiny, cute, small actions, about the proportion of an English rook rifle, not the fence-post and railroad iron clunker they sell now.

John machined and fitted a new replacement rifle barrel which would interchange with the .410 shotgun barrel, so that I still had the use of the shotgun.  This made more sense to me than lining the shotgun barrel, as it cost very little more.  

The completed rifle weighs a few ounces over 5 lbs. with iron sights and just over 6 lbs. with Unertl blocks and 6X Small Game straight tube scope. This is going to be my standard walking around rifle from now on!  My Single Six Ruger now has a hunting buddy!

The rifle barrel is 26" long and skinny in contour, fitting the original shotgun wood.  Rifling specs are equal width lands and grooves of normal .30 cal (.300x.308) dimensions, with a 16" twist of rifling.  The chambering reamer was one which I had made when I was on the NRA staff in the early 1980s, when we were testing this cartridge in T/C Contenters for Hunter's Pistol silhouette.   The introduction of the .32 H&R Magnum killed the project, because they didn't want people loading hot silhouette loads in .32 S&W Long for T/Cs, but our special S&W Long chamber shoots better than the H&R Mag. with SAAMI dimensioned chamber, when used in a rifle.

The chamber body is of minimum SAAMI dimensions, based on the pressure-velocity test barrel.  However, the "second shoulder" or transition from the .335" diameter at the case mouth, to the .3114" diameter of the forcing cone entrance is 15 degrees included angle.  This provides an easy transition for lead bullets and enables a narrow front driving band as large as .314" to rest against the origin of rifling.  The forcing cone angle is 3 degrees included angle, which provides a Mauser-style long tapered throat which enables you to seat a 150-gr. FN cast bullet with only the gascheck and the bottom band in the case, for added case capacity if you want to experiment. So-loaded the case holds enough RL-7 to provide a subsonic "blooper" rifle load.   About 20 years ago I tested the concept thoroughly in a single-shot target rifle and got sub-moa grouping at 100 yards when breech seated.

More practical for field carry are any ordinary revolver loads for the .32 S&W long, which also shoot spendidly in this chamber.  Factory loaded 98-gr. LRN or HBWCs make about as much noise outdoors as Eley Tenex fired in a .22 sporter.    My standard revolver load with the Saeco #325, 95-gr. SWC bullet and 2.5 grs. of Bullseye gives about 850 f.p.s. in a 4-5/8" revolver and remains subsonic in the rifle, being quieter than high velocity .22 LR, but should be much more effective.

A heavier revolver load I shoot in my Ruger Single Six, 7 grs. of #2400 with the same bullet, gives 1050 f.p.s. in the revolver, and I expect would approach 1300 f.p.s. in the rifle, approximating the standard ballstics for the .32-20 Winchester, one of the best small game rifles ever invented.

I contacted Henry Arms and suggested that they consider a quiet, long barreled center-fire small game rifle, available in either .25-20, .32-20 or .32 H&R Magnum.    No lever action cowboy gun here,  but a handy, well-balanced walking gun like a single-shot rook rifle, or maybe even a trim bolt action, slim, balanced at the natural point of carry, without excessive belly or clubby wood.

They need convincing.  I paid about $360 in custom work, $85 of which was for the XS Ghost ring peep sight and white line Patridge front, to get mine, but if you don't have an action floating around, a factory gun would sure be nice. Certainly there must be other shooters out there who understand that a truly utilitarian small game rifle should use a cartridge other than a .22 rimfire and shouldn't "crack" in the report to alarm the neighbors or make your ears ring.  It should balance more like a good fly rod than an SMLE!

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« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2003, 01:01:18 PM »
I use my Browning B-78 25/06 when hunting Blacktail deer in the large clearcuts here on Prince of Wales Island. It is topped with a Leupold M-8 6X42 and is just plain effective at long range. One good shot is usually all that is needed. Best of luck. POW

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« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2003, 04:55:25 PM »
ED Harris,
 I totally agree! I own several single shot rifles chambered for small centerfire cartridges, and I thoroughly enjoy shooting, and carrying them.
 One of my favorite is a small frame Belgium Comblain chambered for the 9.1x40 mm cartridge. This is close to the old .38 Colt, but uses a .374" bullet. I make cases for it from .38 specials, and cast my own bullets. This little rook rifle is a joy to shoot, and weighs about 5 lbs! It has a small delictae stock, like most European rifles, with very fine checkering, and a flat shotgun style buttplate.
 My other fun rifle is my Ballard #2 in .32 Colt, with double set triggers. It's a bit heavier, but a fun cartridge/rifle combo!
 I like my BIG singles, but the little pistol calibers are more fun!
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« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2004, 03:06:12 PM »
i only hunt with a 30-30 tc 16" barrel for deer and have taken around 30 deer in 9 years with it .some out to 250 yards.

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« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2004, 02:37:41 AM »
I to use the single shots. love the big bores also.
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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2004, 02:41:16 AM »
I also use the single shot rifles. I like to think they make a better hunter out of you. Duke45 [Al.]
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« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2004, 07:48:19 AM »
Shot a medium sized Black Bear with an 1885 Browning in 45-100 cal.  Did a fine job.  Shot one a couple of years back with a sharps 45-120, also did a fine job.
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« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2004, 12:38:11 PM »
Living in Alabama, I get to enjoy a both a long season and a liberal quota. I took four whitetails with my 44 Mag Handirifle this year, 2 with a handload using Speers 270 grain Gold Dot and 2 with a handload using a cast 256 grain bullet. I also took 1 deer with a handload using the Hornady 180 XTP in my 357 Maximum Handi (a rechamber of a 357 Mag) In past I have taken deer with  with an 1885 Browning in 45-70 and an old Mossberg 20 guage inwhich the spring for the magazine was broken, rendering it a single shot.
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« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2004, 03:01:31 AM »
yes sir me and my son hunt with singleshots

20ga ultraslug here with a buck i shot this year.more pictures to come

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« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2004, 05:56:44 PM »
Yup, I hunt with single shots too...From the 10GA Street Sweeper NEF Turkey gun to the 12GA Ultra Slugger barrel I have for the 10GA receiver for whitetail...It's all good when you are carrying a single shot...
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« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2004, 06:28:37 PM »
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Yup, I hunt with single shots too...From the 10GA Street Sweeper NEF Turkey gun to the 12GA Ultra Slugger barrel I have for the 10GA receiver for whitetail...It's all good when you are carrying a single shot...


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« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2004, 02:12:13 PM »
I was at the range this morning preparing for our spring varmint hunt. I'm planning on taking a couple of my old single shots to hunt with. Worked up some loads for my Remington Hepburn also while I was there. Being a .45-70, it's not going to go varmint hunting with us, but my Stevens 44 1/2 Schuetzen rifle in .25-21S, and my Haenel Aydt in 8.15x46R are both going along this year!
 The Aydt was shooting under 2" at 100 yds, with open sights. This was while I was fire forming the brass! Hopefully they will tighten up a bit once I get them reloaded again!
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« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2004, 10:07:08 AM »
This last season was an excellent "single shot season". Two whitetail: (Browning M78 25-06), one mulie (NEF 30-30 Carbine), and two antelope (NEF 25-06).
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« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2004, 08:17:24 PM »
I've been using single shots since 1985.  I started out carrying a T/C Rifle, I have .338, .35 Whelen, 30-06, 7mm mag, .243, and 22-250.  Then I discovered NEF/H&R.  I now carry a handi with me almost exclussively.  I have a .50cal Huntsman, 45-70, .35 Whelen, 30-06, .243, and .223.  My Dad used the .35 to kill a Moose, I use the 30-06 for Black Bears and Wolves.   My son uses the 45-70 for Black Bears in the spring, He hopes to get a Moose this coming year.  I have a 14 Day float trip in the Brooks Range planned for next September, and I am taking the 30-06 Handi.
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« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2004, 07:28:26 AM »
Sourdough good to see a fellow Alaskan here. Does NEF/H&R actually offer the Whelan or did you have it converted? Sounds like good medicine for big game alright. Best of luck. POW

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« Reply #50 on: February 09, 2004, 10:11:11 AM »
Prince of Wales they use to offer it. I had one and I beleive mine is just like Sourdough's. Most had laminated stocks, but mine was used but like new. My gun dealer had sold to this guy and he traded back in. It has the regular handi stock and forearm. I do not think there was to many of these made. Wish they would offer it again or maybe a 338-06, but for now my 450 Ultra will do.

All by the way I got crazy and sold it. :x

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« Reply #51 on: February 10, 2004, 09:19:19 AM »
Prince Of Wales:  I called Mr Garrison CEO of NEF/H&R when they offered the Rocky Mountain Elk Federation Commerative, in .35 Whelen.  I asked for a standard handi in .35 Whelen.  I did not want to get a Comerative to carry in the woods and beat up.  They barreled up one for me.  As far as I know I have the only Standard Handi in .35 Whelen.  My Dad used it to kill a Moose and it did a great job.  One shot took out heart, both lungs, and broke a shoulder.  Moose dropped on the spot and never got up.
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« Reply #52 on: February 10, 2004, 09:29:10 AM »
Sourdough the Whelen I had was a standard handi. I'm pretty sure the stock/forearm were not change, but I'm not 100 % sure.

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« Reply #53 on: February 10, 2004, 01:36:10 PM »
Yep! I have hunted deer for years with an H&R tracker 12  ga.
      My regular truck gun is a NEF Sportster in .22 mag.
  In NY State we can carry neither a loaded gun or loaded magazine in our vehicle. The NEF is really handy to stop, move off the highway, load and dispatch that "target of opportunity"...
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« Reply #54 on: February 10, 2004, 02:54:27 PM »
POW

On the nef_singlshot site on Yahoo are several folks who have had their .30-06 Handis bored out to .35 Whelen.  There is a list of gunsmiths who will do the job, in the "files" section.

Also, Daveinthebush posted where he recently picked up a NEF in .35 Whelen.  Since he already had another rifle in this caliber, perhaps you could wheedle him out of the NEF...

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« Reply #55 on: February 11, 2004, 06:31:23 AM »
Kees I was asking more or less out of curiosity. There is probably nothing on this island big enough to use it on. My calibers now are 357 mag(Marlin 62), 30/30 (Marlin 336 24"). 25/06 (B78), 308 Win (Savage 99), and 30-06 (Husky 5500).
 I do badly want another SS rifle but it would have to be something small like a Hornet or perhaps the new 17HMR. What I would really like would be a wildcat 17 based on a 357 Mag weighing in at under 5 lbs. Best of luck. POW

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« Reply #56 on: February 11, 2004, 12:04:28 PM »
:D That is about all I hunt with is single shoots, what I learnt on  :-)
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« Reply #57 on: February 12, 2004, 12:59:17 AM »
Ed; I am 100% with you....we need a good .32 cal rifle.
I entreated NEF over on the Marlin/NEF talk site to make such a rifle.
   In .32 mag it would be great as a "gentleman's coyote and 'chuck" rifle.
For "close in" pest woodchuck dispatching, one could download the speed in favor of quietness.
   Shucks, if NEF won't do it, perhaps Rossi or, (keep your fingers crossed) Savage could do it!
   BTW; my Savage 219L has a 26" barrel..I have been considering getting it shortened, for handling convenience. I don't believe it has any special collector value that I would be destroying.
   What is the optimal length for a .22 hornet barrel? Can I remove 6" and still retain all performance?
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« Reply #58 on: February 12, 2004, 04:01:39 AM »
MY handsdown favorite brush gun is my Ruger #3 in 45-70 with a 2X7 leupold compact scope. Compact, light, and easy to carry. I've taken five deer with it, all one shot kills.[/img]
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« Reply #59 on: February 12, 2004, 06:09:43 AM »
I'm not much of a hunter. Too many broken bones in the past for running around in the cold to be fun any more, but the few crows and squirrels I shoot in a year get shot with a .22 Mag Sportster. You only get one crack at a crow and rarely more than that at a squirrel.

The last few years I hunted deer, I used courtesy single shots, a Valmet 412 .30-06/12 gauge and a Franz Sodia 8x72 JR Sauer/16 gauge. Kinda like having a ss rifle for deer and an ss shotgun for turkey or grouse in one gun.
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