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SB-2099 They are trying to sneak another one through.
« on: May 26, 2009, 06:09:08 PM »
This Senate Bill will place a 50.00 tax on all firearms you own.  Its sneaky,
They can have the Finance Committee pass it.

http://www.usacarry.com/forums/2nd-amendment-politics/8197-sb-2099-a.html


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Re: SB-2099 They are trying to sneak another one through.
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2009, 03:23:30 AM »
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"This bill will become public knowledge 30 days after it is voted into law."

I didn't need to read any further.
The day something like that happens, I'll start singing "Oh Canada".
EVERYTHING is available to the public before it becomes law.

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Re: SB-2099 They are trying to sneak another one through.
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2009, 04:02:42 AM »
A thinly veiled gun registration scheme? What else is new?
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Re: SB-2099 They are trying to sneak another one through.
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2009, 10:47:22 AM »
As redhawk said guys, it's a proven hoax.  Started circulating back in 2000.  Wasn't real then, still isn't real now.

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Re: SB-2099 They are trying to sneak another one through.
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2009, 11:32:50 AM »
I just searched for that bill on opencongress.org.  It doesn't exist.
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Re: SB-2099 They are trying to sneak another one through.
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2009, 01:42:24 PM »
Hi
 I just did a search to see what SB-2099   status was and found this.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocTypeID=SB&DocNum=2099&GAID=10&SessionID=76&LegID=45018

 So I wonder what this is all about.
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Re: SB-2099 They are trying to sneak another one through.
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2009, 01:54:20 PM »
Hi
 I just did a search to see what SB-2099   status was and found this.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocTypeID=SB&DocNum=2099&GAID=10&SessionID=76&LegID=45018

 So I wonder what this is all about.
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That's a bill in the Illinois senate, not the US Senate. From the "Full Text" of the bill linked off the page you linked (http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=&SessionId=76&GA=96&DocTypeId=SB&DocNum=2099&GAID=10&LegID=45018&SpecSess=&Session=), Illiniois SB-2009:

Amends the Illinois Governmental Ethics Act. Makes a technical change in the provisions specifying who must file statements of economic interests.

Nowhere in the bill are guns or firearms mentioned.

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Re: SB-2099 They are trying to sneak another one through.
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2009, 03:30:21 PM »
Hi
  It seems that there are two SB-2099's.  I gave you the incorrect URL to the correct website.  The SB-2099 that I am referring to is at.

http://ron.dotson.net/guns/sb2099.htm

Try that and see what I am referring to.  Sorry about the mix up.
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Re: SB-2099 They are trying to sneak another one through.
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2009, 05:19:55 PM »
Hi
  It seems that there are two SB-2099's.  I gave you the incorrect URL to the correct website.  The SB-2099 that I am referring to is at.

http://ron.dotson.net/guns/sb2099.htm

Try that and see what I am referring to.  Sorry about the mix up.
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It's somewhat similar to the email, but not quite the same.  This is a standard senate bill, so it would not be passable by any Committee.  It can do to the committee for approval, but that just means it gets to be voted on - it would still have to pass the house and senate (and get a presidential signature) to become law.  It, like all other legislation, is also freely published rather than the public being notified 30 days after passage.  It also doesn't make you declare anything on your 1040 (which implies an annual tax), bur rather imposes a $50 tax on the manufacture of handguns (long guns are not included), and taxes the transfer of handguns (though doesn't set an amount for that).  Vaguely similar to the incredulous email, but really a different beast.

Bottom line though is that this is a bill that died in committee back in 2000.  If it doesn't pass during the Congress that it's introduced in then the bill is dead.  It can't be acted on unless it's reintroduced, but a senator can introduce any legislation they want - most stupid bills like these die in committee.  As an example, a SC state senator introduced a bill that attempted to outlaw profanity - written, spoken, recorded, whatever.  Disseminating profanity would have been punishable by 5 years in jail.  That's got first amendment violations all over it, but the same guy tries stuff like that every year.  He's an elected official - it's his right to introduce it, but he in turn gets rightfully ignored.

This is nothing we need to worry about or get into a tizzy about unless it's reintroduced.