Author Topic: reducing recoil? (Read 2409 times)

slickest · « **on:** May 28, 2009, 02:11:40 AM »

How many of you use muzzle brake? Do they reduce the accuracy and muzzle velocity greatly? Im looking for solutions to ease the kick of my 300wm some and have thought about a muzzle brake but im not sure if I want to go that route since I have heard they greatly increase the loudness of the firearm.

What other routes can I go besides using a muzzle brake? What are some good brands of after market butt pads for reducing recoil? is their anything else that can be done besides a muzzle brake or butt pad? Cost isnt that much of a concern just looking for some options

jls · « **Reply #1 on:** May 28, 2009, 02:27:11 AM »

Put a Que Industries brake on my 300wm along with a limbsaver pad. Pad works great, brake--holy crap!! I almost got strung up after turning one loose under a covered range. recoil was about like a 243 but the muzzle blast was too much. I took the break off, my hearing is already bad enough. alot of good pads out there and a little extra weight would help some. Alot of practice helped me more than anything.

Mikey · « **Reply #2 on:** May 28, 2009, 02:30:07 AM »

slickest: muzzle brakes do not increase the sound of the report, they just re-distribute the blast so it sounds louder. There are some muzzle brakes that are designed to direct the blast groundward, or downward, which helps control rearward recoil and as a result helps deaden some of the report..I think they refer to those as 'stabalizers' more than muzzle brakes and have vent holes on only one portion of the brake to provide directional control.

I have a mil-spec brake on a 6.5 Swede that definately helps reduce recoil but the report seems much louder. I also have one on a long barrelled Kalashnikov that has the same effect. I have used stabalizers on the Kalashnikov and that helps keep the report down to a tolerable level.

When I'm on the bench I use a PAST Recoil Sheild, which is great. When I'm in the field I hardly notice anything except a bit of recoil. HTH.

BBF · « **Reply #3 on:** May 29, 2009, 12:37:42 AM »

Reducing recoil: muzzle brake, pad to reduce felt recoil, add weight to the rifle, use reduced loads. On a shooting range something similar to a led sled would help.

mattl · « **Reply #4 on:** May 29, 2009, 10:12:25 AM »

If you are not too worried about adding a little weight to your rifle (most people are), you could have a mercury recoil reducer put into your stock and maybe your forend if the balance is off. I have a buddy that built a 458 Win Mag and installed several mercury recoil reducers to it and they reduced the recoil to a very managable level. I imagine I could shoot that rifle all day and not feel too much pain (if I could only afford the ammo). The recoil of his 458 Win Mag, with the recoil reducers, feels more like a synthetic stocked 30-06. I'm pretty sure he has 2 reducers in the stock and one in the forend. With all 3 I think the weight added to the rifle is about 2 lbs. He also installed a limbsaver recoil pad on it. Total weight of the rifle is about 11 to 13 lbs, not for sure though, we never weighed it.

Matt

vabowhntr · « **Reply #5 on:** July 20, 2009, 06:36:16 AM »

What kind of recoil pad is on it. I just put a new limbsaver on an old remington 30-06 and it seemed very mild with 165 gr bullets at near max charges. It was an amazing improvement over the steel plate that was on it before...

BBF · « **Reply #6 on:** July 21, 2009, 04:51:14 AM »

Had three rifles with the Magna(?) Muzzle Brake. This is the type with the slots cut into the barrel spaced in a V like pattern. The worst kicker I had was a Standard Ruger#1 re-chambered into 300 Wby
They made a difference and no I didn't care how loud they are. On the range, ear protection is a must anyway and in the bush it doesn't matter.

Rangr44 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 21, 2009, 01:54:35 PM »

Stock design also has a surprising effect upon felt recoil - especially the amount of drop from the bore's centerline to the heel of the buttstock at the top of the BP or recoil pad.

The shape/angle of the stock comb does, also - the more parallel with the bore it is, the less felt recoil - and if it's angled, it should move backward, away from the face at firing ILO slapping the cheekbone under recoil.

I've had a poorly-stocked older .30-30 levergun, with a lot of drop, slap me silly - while a properly-stocked .338 Win Mag was just fine.

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charles p · « **Reply #8 on:** July 21, 2009, 04:54:45 PM »

Use ear plugs and ear muffs. You'll bee surprised what that will do to reduce a flinch. Won't reduce recoil but will greatly improve trigger control and accuracy. In the field, you will never feel the recoil or hear the blast, but your trigger control and flinch control from practice sessions will carry over to your field use.

Tonk · « **Reply #9 on:** December 17, 2009, 03:07:12 AM »

Slickest, the best solution is, one to use a PAST RECOIL PAD when your shooting this .300 mag at the bench, it's cost is around $38 dollars. The other is to have the end of the barrel slotted by Mag-Na-Port and company. They do a great job and you won't even notice those small little slots in the end of the barrel. Now this will take about 10 to 12 percent of the recoil off that .300 mag and also it will remove the muzzle jump as well. I have done this to several rifles over the last 30 years of so and it works like a charm and half the cost of having an ugly "muzzle brake" installed on your rifle..........heavens NO!

Mag-Na-Ported rifles are a Remington 700 heavy barrel in .375H&H, model 70 heavy barrel in .457 cal, model 70 .458 Win mag, model 70 stainless in 7mm magnum. All of these rifles became much easyier to shoot! The 7mm mag's muzzle jump was all but eliminated, it shoots like a .243 Winchester from the bench.

JimFromTN · « **Reply #10 on:** December 29, 2009, 09:59:45 AM »

I have a rem 700 in 300 win mag that used to turn my shoulder purple if I tried to shoot a box of 20 rds thru it at the range. I installed a vias muzzlebreak and a recoil pad. I loaded some reduced recoil loads (150gr BT, 2800fps mv) and I swear my 10/22 kicks more than it does. It is an absolute pleasure to shoot.

Redneckguy77 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 21, 2010, 03:12:46 PM »

i put a muzzle brake on my m44 and it reduced the recoil by at least 30%

diggler1833 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 22, 2010, 05:19:32 PM »

I put on an American Precision Arms "LB" brake on my .260. Recoil didn't make it necessary for me before, but I wanted something that the wife could shoot. It recoils now about like a .22-250, but the direction the sound is deflected makes it pretty much unbearable for those shooting around me.

fish7x57 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 27, 2010, 03:37:56 PM »

I find a muzzle brake to be more offensive that the worst case of flatulence in a high rise elevator. The Past Recoil Shield is a much more neighbor friendly option. Shooting a more comfortable rifle is the best long term solution.

slickest · « **Reply #14 on:** April 28, 2010, 05:15:50 PM »

still havent done anything with the rifle yet. to busy playing with the savage .223. I think im going to try a limbsaver pad first and if that doesnt help enough going to look at a muzzlebrake. dont really like the muzzlebrake idea but im thinking i might have too. this ruger kicks like a mule. Is their any stocks that are made to make less recoil felt.? I noticed with my rifle it kicks practically straight back. no muzzle climb at all.

anweis · « **Reply #15 on:** April 29, 2010, 02:45:53 AM »

The best way to reduce the recoil on a 300 wm is to replace it with a 7mm-08.

Savage .250 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 29, 2010, 10:53:07 AM »

Is it possible you got to much gun for you to handle as far as recoil goes ? Just asking.

slickest · « **Reply #17 on:** April 29, 2010, 05:31:19 PM »

I can handle the recoil just fine. I just dont like it after about 20 rounds or so. thus the reason looking for some options making it easier to shoot for a longer amount of time without a huge heavy target barrel and a huge comp stock. granted this isnt a target rifle and a hunting rifle but i would still like to sit down and shoot more than a box of ammo with out feeling it the next day.

anweis · « **Reply #18 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:40:01 AM »

Quote from: slickest on April 29, 2010, 05:31:19 PM

i would still like to sit down and shoot more than a box of ammo with out feeling it the next day.

That is also very easy to fix.
Buy yourself a full size 6-7 lb. .22 LR or .22 Mag or .17 HMR, and mount on it a scope similar to the one you have on that .300. Take both rifles to a good 'smith and have him adjust the triggers so that they are similar (or, better yet, install Timneys on both). Voila, you now have a rifle that you can shoot all day.
I am not being sarcastic, but shooting that .300 off the bench will not make you a better shot. Practicing with a .22 from realistic field positions, 500 shots or more per month, will.

Cecil · « **Reply #19 on:** April 30, 2010, 03:57:48 AM »

Buy a lead sled rest, you can shoot of the bench all you want

slickest · « **Reply #20 on:** May 02, 2010, 11:03:43 AM »

thanks for the replies. limbsaver is goin on tommorrow.