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Offline Huntrap_MT

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« on: September 18, 2003, 10:13:59 PM »
I have noticed alot of conversation on here relating to US/CAN relations and I thought I might as well tell my tale to whom may care.  First of all, I live in the extreme NE corner of MT and only a jog from the Sask border.  My family homesteaded in CAN for a short time and dropped down here into MT to farm and ranch until present. For the entire time I was growing up here (I am 25) my family and all of the other families in a two county area relied heavily on Minton, Sask for our machinery parts (and still do to this day) and Regina was our area's primary and closest place for doctering and major shopping.  My family has farms and run sheep and cattle along the Sask border as well.  One of our neighbors here in MT, has a farm up in Sask as do a couple others.  We get two local American radio stations, but all the rest are Canadian. Our local economy, other than agriculture, used to be solely based on Canadian visitors coming down and spending money in our two countie's largest towns Scobey, Plentywood and everywhere else. I got to legaly drink in a bar my first time when I was 18 in CAN. :eek:  So, being this close to CAN all my "young years",  I have a pretty good idea of Canadians in general, despite what might be heard, felt, or asumed by others of the US.  From what we, at home, have always knew, the Canadian people never appeared to be much different from us Montanans down here in anyway, exept for the word "eigh" and the spelling of some words such as "cheque" and "colour"  :)  sorry for that.  I am sure there are some bad apples up there somewhere, but I don't remember bumping into any.  The general Canadians seem to go about things in much the same way as the general Americans do.  The Canadians work for a living just like us and argue a little polotics at times, just like us.  Canadians don't mind the general Americans coming up for a visit nor do Americans mind the general Canadian coming down for a visit.  We both rely on each other for certian things that each nation lacks for themselves.  For the most part, from what I can tell, the general Canadians and the general Americans seem to let each other blend right in to each other's peoples.  The problem is not the general, or I should say the "real" people, of both nations, it is the leaders of both nations in form of government!  :x  So, for both sides I say, don't let TV make our decisions on one another, nor our governments who do too much yapping on it.  Don't get the "real" people of each nation mixed up with both of the nation's, far removed from it's people, governments.  Keep that in mind when you want to go up to your favorite stomping grounds or down here for hunting, fishing, visiting, vacationing, etc.  Obviously, both nations are now in a mess left by 911, and is realy being felt HARD by us both.  In particular, we always looked forward to our 3 hunter friends from Toronto to show up every bird season to visit, dine, and get put on some good bird hunting.  However, now after 911 they hunt down to the border area, but do not come across because of all they would have to go through to get thier many dogs, tons of ammo, several guns, etc. over it.  All they could do since 911 is call us to talk and send us post cards from practically just across the border!  Few of locals venture up there now on account of all of this and our Canadian customers are threatened from here to a seriuos degree as well.  If it were not for Williston, ND having a Walmart, car dealerships, grocieries, etc.  than a huge area of our corner of the state would dry up even quicker than it already is.  The exchange rate already killed us for Canadian money keeping us going, and now that it is finally cheeper to buy in CAN, we are now in the midst of this border crossing disaster!  Well, maybe in a couple years things may mellow out a bit, but the main thing is if we just think of each other as "individuals" who make up the "real" CAN or US and are not nessacarily tied to our governments thinking and/or actions, then we all will get through things much more comfortably and at ease.

Huntrap
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-Orlando "Squawfish" de Gaskett

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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2003, 03:07:54 AM »
Thank you for your insight and wisdom! Different jobs over the years have seen me spend as much as 20 weeks a year in your fine country. Friends back home (I've lived in pretty rural areas) always have asked what the US and its people are like and my reply has always been that the country and people are just like the folks down the road and when you live that close to the border you (or we) are the people down the road. Until 911 I never felt that I was in a foreign country when I was in the States and have always said that I could easily live in your mid west states where the people and land are very much like here at home. Today to get a rifle into the States to go hunting is very nearly impossible to return a Leupold scope to the factory for repair requires a permit from the ATF. I know this is the result of a tragic event and lets all hope that one day soon we'll be back to the kind of freedom to visit our neighbors we used to enjoy. Some days it seems the border paranoia and the difficulties it has caused between friends is the biggest victory the terrorists have won.
Rich
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2003, 04:25:50 PM »
Good post.....I know and care about many American friends....I really feel the state of CAN/US relationships to be in a sorry state these days.  Like you, I have seen less of my American friends in the last couple of years due to all sorts of reasons that have nothing to do with our friendships, but with the general state of policy and politics.  I yearn for the good ole days when all was mellow between us...It should come back around...

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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2003, 07:51:50 AM »
It will come around my friends, when politicans stop acting like children fighting over a swing set in a playground. "Your selling your wheat cheaper than we can." " we're going to incease the tarriff against your lumber, so there." ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!! Get your flippin' heads out of your butts, and worry about the real problems in BOTH countries, like oh....crime!
you wanna take my guns? go ahead, it's your arm!

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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2004, 01:18:26 PM »
I toured the mid west US states in 2000.  I loved that trip and will do it again....but for a longer period this time.  It is a beautiful country out there and i would not hesitate one second to move there.  It is a shame that a line  that separates us can cause so much diffenteces.  We should all be united in a cause to really stop all this and get back to a normal way of life before 911.  My son was going to go to a convention on the week of 911 ion New York, he surely would have played tourist and visited the trade centre.  At the last minute his company pulled out and cancelled the trip.  I am glad my son is still here today.  This tragedy touch a lot of people and it is far from over.  The sooner they are stopped the better things will be.


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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2004, 07:51:50 AM »
but I don't think the governments are ever going to get back to reality.  I don't think they know what reality is.  Our countries are not governed by the people for the people. Our whole democratic systems are being manipulated by the the rich in order to get richer. We are nothing but peons working for them. If this wasn't true we wouln't have bills like C68. Nothing short of a full scale uprising will ever change things. Maybe that's why they want to disarm us?
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2004, 04:33:33 AM »
I've come to the conclusion that there are good folks and bad folks, they come in all colours, faiths,nationalities  they speak diferent languages and have diferent politics.But you can't make a call on whether they're good folks or bad folks based on any of the above.The only way to tell is by what they do.