Author Topic: Reloading Experts Opinions Please  (Read 883 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Fred McIntire

  • Trade Count: (31)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 582
  • Gender: Male
    • http://www.FredMcIntire.Com
Reloading Experts Opinions Please
« on: September 19, 2003, 05:55:30 AM »
I, like everyone else, am looking for that perfect hunting load for pheasants. I would like to reload some 12 gauge shells with a mixture of #4 shot and #7 1/2 shot. I'm thinking a 50/50 mixture.

Can this be done? Is it safe? Would it create too much pressure? How would you suggest I accomplish this?

Thanks for all of your help!

Offline Toobroke

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 17
Reloading Experts Opinions Please
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2003, 01:55:25 AM »
They've been loading specialty turkey loads similar to this for quite some time. Don't exceed your shot loads in grains and put the heavier shot on top.

Offline .45 COLT

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 319
Reloading Experts Opinions Please
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2003, 03:00:55 AM »
It can be safely done, but why? I've never understood the duplex, or triplex, load. If you need 4's, for whatever reason, the 7 1/2's are wasted space. If the 7 1/2's will do the job, why lower your pellet count with the 4's?

My "perfect" pheasant load has for years been 1 1/4 ounces of #6, 3 1/4 DE.

Just my opinion.
On the 19th of April, 1775, a tyrannical government sent an army to disarm its citizens. They ran into a touch of trouble.

Offline Mr. 16 gauge

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 27
Reloading Experts Opinions Please
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2003, 04:56:19 AM »
...and they probably wont pattern for crap!

  My favorite load in 12 gauge is 1 1/3 oz of copper plated #5s, 3 3/4 dram equivalent.  In 16 gauge, it's 1 1/8 oz of copper plated #5s at 1300 fps.  Good luck.
"if your dog thinks your the greatest, don't go seeking a second opinion."

Offline rickyp

  • Moderator
  • Trade Count: (19)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3052
  • Gender: Male
Reloading Experts Opinions Please
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2003, 02:18:49 PM »
I have not seen a duplex load in a long time.
I have been thinking about making my own but really dont see any need fot them but as a "play load"

Offline RandyWakeman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1246
    • RandyWakeman
Re: Reloading Experts Opinions Please
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2003, 12:38:06 PM »
Quote from: Fred McIntire
I, like everyone else, am looking for that perfect hunting load for pheasants. I would like to reload some 12 gauge shells with a mixture of #4 shot and #7 1/2 shot.


Sure it can be done, has been done, but there is no advantage to playing with duplex loads that has ever been shown. I've averaged over 35 cock pheasants a year from Illinois ditches, waterways, and hedgerows for over thirty years. Naturally, I have some opinions.

Neither #7-1/2 or #6 shot has any place in an effective pheasant load-- too many runners. If you want to be certain of picking up your bird, you need to break a wing and a leg. #4 or #5 shot does that more reliably than #6 or smaller. Nickel plated, #5 shot is the best compromise I've found-- using #4 late season, starting right about now.

This should come as little surprise to waterfowlers who used #4 or 5 shot on decoying ducks when lead was still allowed. Far more exposed bodies than on a pheasant that hops up, head down, wings pumping as hard as he can to get away in a hurry.

The next bit of advice (correctly priced at free) is to pattern your hunting loads. That at least gives you an idea of the pattern percentages you might expect out in the field-- in your gun.