Author Topic: Repair parts needed. (Read 3041 times)

Double D · « **on:** June 05, 2009, 07:21:31 PM »

The drive pully on my 1 inch sander grinder blew up this morning. Pieces of plastic pully all over the shop. I am in need of a drive pulley PN: 926-11-991-9441 for a Rockwell 1 inch sander grinder Model 31-352. All the online sources say no longer available.

I tried www.mikestools.com but they don't have it. Anyone have another source for obsolete parts

Victor3 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 05, 2009, 09:37:07 PM »

Might check if a Kalamazoo one will fit. I think they're both 1/2" shafts but I don't know if the OD is the same or not...

http://www.kalamazooindustries.com/belt_sanders.asp

Double D · « **Reply #2 on:** June 06, 2009, 03:12:13 AM »

Thanks Victor, it's worth a try. As I get my shop equipment set up and running I am finding age, moving all over the country and use has been pretty rough on it. Lots of little stuff.

The lathe kept tripping a breaker...found the motor mounts bolts had come loose and the motor was jumping when started. The drive belt on my lathe makes me realy nervous it's frayed. I don't even want to think about what it will take to change.

I was adjusting the table on the drill press the other day and the clamp nut stripped.

It goes on.

Then this morning I woke up to this.

Victor3 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 06, 2009, 03:22:45 AM »

"The drive belt on my lathe makes me realy nervous it's frayed. I don't even want to think about what it will take to change."

What lathe, and what style belt?

Double D · « **Reply #4 on:** June 06, 2009, 03:45:14 AM »

Early 1980's Jet 1236 P. The headstock bearings have to be pulled to get the belt on.

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #5 on:** June 06, 2009, 05:52:08 AM »

There is a style of belt that is made of little loops linked to the next. A bit more expensive than a vee belt BUT it BOTH lasts MUCH longer and is more efficient (more transmitted HP). Look in the standard catalogs (MSC, McM-Carr, etc.)

Double D · « **Reply #6 on:** June 06, 2009, 11:34:57 AM »

The pully wheel is 3.375 OD x 1 inch width x .620 shaft hole.

Double D · « **Reply #7 on:** June 06, 2009, 03:03:47 PM »

Quote from: Cat Whisperer on June 06, 2009, 05:52:08 AM

There is a style of belt that is made of little loops linked to the next. A bit more expensive than a vee belt BUT it BOTH lasts MUCH longer and is more efficient (more transmitted HP). Look in the standard catalogs (MSC, McM-Carr, etc.)

Is this the type of belt that doesnt require the pulling of the head stock gearing?

GGaskill · « **Reply #8 on:** June 06, 2009, 03:15:03 PM »

The pulley wheel is 3.375 OD x 1 inch width x .620 shaft hole.

These dimensions are for the sander pulley? What style/size belt does it use? Can always make a pulley. Sure the shaft hole isn't .625"?

dominick · « **Reply #9 on:** June 06, 2009, 03:30:00 PM »

http://www.mcmaster.com/#v-belts/=27etmo

Douglas, here's a link to the belt I think he's talking about.

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #10 on:** June 06, 2009, 03:38:46 PM »

Ya beat me to it. That's it.

same catalog has pully wheels.

dominick · « **Reply #11 on:** June 06, 2009, 03:49:31 PM »

The sander pulley that broke, is it a flat drum type that the sanding belt rides on or a V belt pulley? If it's a flat drum pulley, it can possibly be made from a piece of solid round with a 5/8" hole bored in it.

Double D · « **Reply #12 on:** June 06, 2009, 04:03:21 PM »

Actually George it probably is .625. It drives the sanding belt. From my research on the net, it appears a lot of people are looking for the various pulleys for this machine.

I looked into buying the material to make the pulley and choked at the price. I can get a new machine cheaper.

Here's what the McMaster Carr says for belt for the lathe:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#6173k38/=27f6ma
6173K38 Twist Lock Adjustable-Length V-Belting 5L, B, Belt Type, 5/8" Belt Width

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #13 on:** June 06, 2009, 04:08:15 PM »

Can you post a pix of the old pulley? There are several of us that have lathes - and there are a LOT of odd pieces of aluminum and such that are scrap-pile free.

Double D · « **Reply #14 on:** June 06, 2009, 04:39:31 PM »

If someone had a piece of 3 1/2 in. dia scrap aluminum round, Could make the pully on my lathe as long as the belt doesn't break first.

wvdad · « **Reply #15 on:** June 06, 2009, 04:41:20 PM »

Yes, I agree, if you have a picture of the pulley and some dimensions I am sure I or many of us here would have the means or the materials to make what you need.

wvdad · « **Reply #16 on:** June 06, 2009, 04:42:30 PM »

How thick does it have to be?

seacoastartillery · « **Reply #17 on:** June 06, 2009, 05:00:32 PM »

DD, I think we have a solution for your 1" belt sander. We have a Delta, Model 406-00-752-001. Looks like parts for it will fit your machine. The two large pulleys are 3.450 dia. with .625" axle holes. The two small pulleys are 1.990" dia. with .500" axle holes. These pulleys are crowned, black, polycarbonate with sealed bearings and a composite sleeve that fits the axle shafts. There are no individual parts no.s visible, but a Delta dealer should have a parts list for this popular machine.

Although the pulleys are slightly different O.D.s from your pulley's O.D., the amount of adjustment for tensioning should more than make up for the delta in sizes.

Good luck,

Tracy and Mike

GGaskill · « **Reply #18 on:** June 06, 2009, 07:18:39 PM »

Looks like the pulley is crowned slightly? How is it anchored to the shaft? This should be easy although it won't be exactly the same (no webs.)

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #19 on:** June 07, 2009, 02:56:59 AM »

I have PLENTY of rounds that are 3-4-5 inches in diameter, usually 4" or so long. Cheap to mail too.

Double D · « **Reply #20 on:** June 07, 2009, 04:59:18 AM »

Mike and Tracy,

I do like your idea....I tired searching for your sander and I could not find that model. That looks more like a part number any way. I tried searching that with no results also.

I think we are on the right track here.

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #21 on:** June 07, 2009, 06:46:09 AM »

Quote from: Double D on June 07, 2009, 04:59:18 AM

Mike and Tracy,

I do like your idea....I tired searching for your sander and I could not find that model. That looks more like a part number any way. I tried searching that with no results also.

I think we are on the right track here.

Manufacturing industry rule of thumb: if someone else makes the part, buy it rather than try to make it.

seacoastartillery · « **Reply #22 on:** June 07, 2009, 07:53:29 AM »

Tim, A more wise Rule of Thumb I don't believe exists, unless it is the one GGaskill mentioned recently,
which I will paraphrase, "When you contemplate making something, remember, it will cost twice as much and take three times as long as your initial estimate". I hate to admit how many times I have ignored the first rule and been totally oblivious of the second!!

Older, but not always wiser,

Tracy

Double D · « **Reply #23 on:** June 07, 2009, 09:33:15 AM »

I have always heard a third section to George's rule:

"When you contemplate making something, remember, it will cost twice as much and take three times as long as your initial estimate and the first one won't work".

GGaskill · « **Reply #24 on:** June 07, 2009, 07:07:42 PM »

I think youse guys are giving me credit where credit isn't due.

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #25 on:** June 08, 2009, 12:30:48 AM »

Quote from: GGaskill on June 07, 2009, 07:07:42 PM

I think youse guys are giving me credit where credit isn't due.

Take it an run, George.

One atta-boy is worth .....

WallyT · « **Reply #26 on:** June 08, 2009, 12:29:38 PM »

Hi Wally,
Just so you don't get the wrong impression, the parts I have available, are replacements for those parts, and not those actual parts themselves. I have a more detailed description with some photos, can be seen at this link on Ebay.
I am running low and really need to re-order, but am scheduled to under major surgery in a couple weeks, and was going to wait until my recovery before I re-order. At this time, I would have them to sell you, but may not in a few days...it goes in streaks. I can send an itemized invoice direct to your paypal account, or you can send me a check or money order. Both the 2" idler and the 3-1/2 " idler, are $19.00 each, and the 3-1/2" drive wheel is $18.50, if you would happen to need one of those also. Shipping is $5.50 for one to five of the items. Let me know what you would like, and how you want to take care of payment.

Thanks, Jim jimliechty at yahoo.com

Take it as information, I replaced two idler pulleys and then my drive pulley started coming apart. Always something to do.

Double D · « **Reply #27 on:** June 08, 2009, 12:47:41 PM »

Funny you should post as I just found one on Ebay, even looks the same except for the PN which matchs the one M&T posted.

I'll send you an email since this part of the post has gone from where to look for parts to actually buying.

WallyT · « **Reply #28 on:** June 08, 2009, 03:32:33 PM »

I posted because I am also looking for parts for my Delta 31-350 sander. the email I quoted from Jim Liechty was the only reasonable source I found, I will probably buy the drive wheel from him when he recovers from open heart surgery. I found this thread on a google search and decided to share information, if I broke protocol please accept my apologies.

Wally

Double D · « **Reply #29 on:** June 08, 2009, 04:00:27 PM »

No you didn't break protocol, I just wasn't sure about your post...it seemed like it was from two different people. Thanks for the tip. I ordered the drive pully.