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Offline lee1954

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colar botton bullets
« on: June 07, 2009, 06:17:56 AM »
Dear Veral
 Could I please give a short comment on colar botton bullets like the 457130. Are they for light loads or speed? Are they accurate in a 45-70, and would they work in a smaller design like .38 Spec. , 32 H&R mag or 32-20 ? I'd like to use less lead in my light loads ..
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Re: colar botton bullets
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2009, 08:06:48 PM »
  Yes they are quite accurate in 45-70 and would be in any caliber, when used with light loads as they are intended to be used.  Parlor loads they used to be called.

  I can make similar bullets for any caliber 22 to 50, but cannot get the groove as deep, due to my boring process.  Yet, I believe a better way to concerve lead is to make up a bullet trap.  I welded one up many years ago, using 3/8 plate for the bullet to impact on, with about a 45 deg angle for the bullets to hit.  They then slid along that surface around a curve and impacted on a 3/8 bottom.  Rest of the trap was 1/4 inch steel.  I made it for practice with a 22 auto pistol before I went home from work, so it sat in the machine shop waiting till everyone else went home.  A co-worker brought a 45-70 in one day and tripped a round off into the trap and it wasn't dented, because by then it had probably 1 1/2 inches of spent 22 bullets laying in the bottom. -  I had never thought of that trap since I quit the job in 1980 till now!  I forgot and left it there!

  There are several real important advantages of using full sized bullets, for your low velocity practice.  Sight setting will be closer to your working loads, no special mold is needed, the report will be milder at a given speed, because the heavier bullet causes cleaner powder burn, and if you catch them in a trap you'll save all the lead, whereas a light bullet will save maybe only half.  I've seen commercially made traps available, for probably about the price of one of my molds, and you can shoot all your guns into it, with light lead loads.  If you use it with heavier bullets than the manufacture recommends, just leave a heavy layer of spent bullets in the bottom and watch the impact area for denting.  If your loads dent it at all, back off on the charge till they don't.
Veral Smith

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Re: colar botton bullets
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2009, 03:42:36 PM »
Thanks  Veral 
- your a good man to find a answer that is not in your $ best intrest..
 
I was working on a bullet trap last fall , used it a few times -- need to get it out again, do some more "beef up " weldinding to fix the problems with it.
   
Need to try out some of your moulds .. you have a good selection.
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Re: colar botton bullets
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2009, 08:30:39 PM »
  Bullet traps cough out a lot of lead dust, so it's best to use them outdoors.  I used mine in the machine shop I was running for a large custom bolt maker.  It was so roomy the dust wasn't a consideration.
  Thanks for the compliment.
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