22-250 ?

[Default]

 Ok guys I was told that the 22-250 barrels had had some issues in the past , What all have we heard or found out through experience ?

 Any recommended accuracy loads for the 22" standard contour ? My findings are that it is a 1 in 14 twist also what are some tell tells to look for to know if the barrel is shot out ?  Any help you all can add to the FAQ info that could help me to diagnose or get this shooting for a friend would be greatly appreciated...



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[PHATINJUN]

Here's what I have heard about "all shot out" and coming from me you can take it for what it's worth. Almost all bbl that are claimed to be all shot out are really just very leaded or copper fouled and with all these new foaming cleaner many are coming back to life . I believe in reality you need to shoot many thousands of round and have the bbl very clean to even get to the rifling to wear them out I guess what I am trying to say there is if you shoot very clean rifling then clean it if you don't get all the build up out eventually your not really wearing the rifling out but sliding by til you hit the rifling farther down the bbl if that makes any sense. That is not to say that if someone was using very hot loads throat erosion could be present. Does this make any sense to you guys that have a much greater knowledge of this than I. If so please chime in and correct me . As I hate to be wandering around aimlessly. Or as Defaults signature says all who wander are not lost. Kurt

[bigvarmnt]

Sounds like one of us needs another drink. OK, it's me. Let me know what you guys figure out about the 22-250s cause I think I want one. Sounds like there are a lot of issues with them. Excuse me, I have to go fertilize an acre of new grass. I'll look for an answer when I get back. Why are there so many problems with the 22-250 Handis?

[ruppster]

I have one I purchased over the winter. It only has about a dozen rounds through it. At 100 yards with Remington factory UMC 50gr, off the back deck handrail, I can almost cover 3 shots with a quarter. That's about as good as I can shoot without a proper rest. I have an inexpensive Centerpoint 6-18x44mm from Walmart on it. I have, but have not shot: white box 45gr Winchesters, 55gr Rem CoreLockt, and some handloads made up with 53gr Sierras over IMR 4064.
The hay should be cut this week & groundhog season will start. I expect the 22-250 will be hard on them, crows, coyotes, and anything else that needs killed within 300 yds.

[bigvarmnt]

Hi, Got the spreader fixed and fert. is down before rain. Before I re-wired the spreader I decided I needed a little different medication.. I grabbed my Rem 700 VSSf 22-250 I had by the door for those coyotes out there a bit. I had put 6 milk jugs filled with water at the 300 yd. backstop this weekend. Kinda looked like the metallic sillouette range I visited outside Tucson a couple times.   Why can't I find Sillouette in the dictionary? Don't think I spelled it right and can't find it. ( hope you will forgive me). Anyway 3 shot 3 kills at 300 yds. I have two 700 Rems but would like a little Handi but hear bad things about them. Been gonna get a better scope for it but it never misses. I thought the gun makers would start making barrels with faster twists so we CAN use the green bullets SOONER or later. What's the deal with the 22-250 barrels accuracy??

[bigvarmnt]

PHATINJUN, I've been wandering around aimlessly a bit today and kinda like it.

[Skunk]

Why can't I find Sillouette in the dictionary? Don't think I spelled it right and can't find it (hope you will forgive me).

Good shooting there BigVarmint!

Hey, you were really close on "Silhouette." One less "l" and add an "h" and you would have nailed it. That's a tough one.

[bigvarmnt]

Thank You Father For I have sinned. ::)One of those days.
Default, If I understand you correctly you are trying to get someones Handi to shoot. Not sure about Handis but I doubt it is shot out unless there have been a LOT of FULL hot loads run through it. I would clean it thoroughly and then again and maybe even polish it a bit. Check the rest of the FAQS tips. See if you can see anything odd in front of the throat. Do these match grade barrels tend to rust in the bore? I have cleaned one of mine before and got brown on the patch. MANURE?
I have a REM I shoot Varget, 55 V-max Moly and can't remember missing anything I wanted to hit with it.  
Sorry, I seem to have an extra 3 fingers today. Bourbon that is!

 

[PHATINJUN]

What are all these problems with the 22-250 you are talking about as with most handi's they are not true the facts have most all of the inherent problem guns listed and what thier issues are but the fixes are there also. most of the problems we are always hering about our guns just are not true and those claims most times are not even made by handi owners. There are very few real problems that have not be addressed. Most of what I said about shot out guns or bbl's are the likes of the Winchester 70's in the 22-250 and the 220swifts also the 225's but I have heard many stories about guys finding these and actually cleaning them or even having the bbl ultra sonic cleaned and the bbl's being just fine. By the way your spelling does suck even I know how to spell "sillywet" Kurt

[bigvarmnt]

I should know how to spell sillywet, my wife has been driving an Oldsmobile one for a few years now. That's what mixing your meds. will do.
I thought a while back something was mentioned about sloppy chambers in the 250. Something about the shoulder maybe. I would think neck sizing fired brass would solve that. I was gonna get one of the 22-250s with camo stocks and scope at Dick's but want a slimmer barrel. Still might, it would prob. be a good combination with the semi heavy barrel. Wish I could see the two barrels side by side. Maybe a trip to the factory showroom! Where's Tim's showroom again?

[bigvarmnt]

Hope it's alright to show inside out critters. 22-250, Varget, 55 V-max moly, @220yds. Flew about 10' when hit. Not on his power though!

[quickdtoo]

Muzzle diameters for the different contours are listed in the FAQs, medium and small bore standard are ~.650", bull ~.800". 

Tim

[Dave Allen]

I've owned two of them,both were pretty good shooter's.The problem's I encountered were with 3 & 4 time's resized brass.Yes I sized so the case head was flush to the end of the chamber.

New brass & once or twice resized I was fine.The 1st one started popping open,the 2nd one would stay closed but it would to string vertically when I used 3rd time rezized brass yes load's & all compenent's were the same.I used redding die's & also had a bolt 22/250 @ the same time & everything was flawless.

Also I had a 243 handi & resized one batch of brass 6 time's with zero problem's & good accuracy probably should have kept that one.

To be honest I never really could figure it out.It's different than with a bolt gun, with a bolt either it close's easy or with slight resistance kinda tell's ya where you're at.


Just my experiance's..

[gendoc]

my 250 likes new brass the best... once or twice still performs well.
after that, i file'um........
many people try to use brass thats been shot from other guns----
thats a no-no!!!!!! in my book....
some try to bump up the resize... some say it works but, i don't trust it for
varmits.... its a pain having to rod out the cartridge
250's can be picky, much less any other.
for paper punch'n, i guess it will do!!!!!   i can't verify that.
my 250 only is used for 200-300yrd kiyotes