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Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« on: June 09, 2009, 06:21:07 AM »
This 45-120 just isn't giving me the power I'd like!  :-[  I think it has helped me learn about real recoil, and how to control it.  When I shoot it now I don't really think twice, when it was "new" I had to think "Don't flinch Tyler, don't flinch", but now it's just like another gun.

Maybe I have some sort of disease, but I ran across a guy with a Ruger #1 in 45-120, with a 29" barrel.  I could run higher pressures to my heart's content, no 40k cap anymore.  We're talking about prices right now, and I was wondering if I would still be welcome here even if my only single shot was a Ruger.   :)

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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2009, 06:29:48 AM »
dibs on the barrel.


(sorry, couldn't help myself)   :D

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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2009, 06:54:00 AM »
Don't come back until you have reamed the Ruger into a 45-150.  Another 45-120 is an inexcusable lateral move.   ;D
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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2009, 07:31:13 AM »
You can go, just leave them young wimmins!   ;D

Ah Tyler you impetuous boy you...  ::)  Always looking for something new and exciting... Just remember what you already got at home.   :(  And also remember, if you don't want her there's somebody here that would take her in a heartbeat!   ;) :D
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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2009, 08:56:10 AM »
Richard, ya speak with the voice of experience. ;D  Listen up Tyler, he knows where of he speaks.  Beyond that, do what you want, yer still welcome here.  DP
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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2009, 09:07:45 AM »
Ty, that Ruger #1 stock is murder with big rounds.
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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2009, 09:09:22 AM »
... Just remember what you already got at home.   :(  And also remember, if you don't want her there's somebody here that would take her in a heartbeat!   ;) :D

And also remember, no matter how good she looks to ya', there's somebody somewhere that's tired of her crap.

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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2009, 10:06:05 AM »
You don't have to have a H&R to be welcome here...ya just can't talk about the Ruger when you are here cause we don't give a rats butt what your Ruger will do. I suppose there are the same sort of folks on the Ruger Forum as there are here NOT. You and your gun have reached near legend status and now ya want to throw it all away I don't get it. Kurt
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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2009, 11:11:06 AM »


   Are y'all sure it's the Ruger #1's that are hard on ya? I have a .308 and it's a joy to shoot. I have heard that the #3 is s bear.
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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2009, 12:57:17 PM »
Try a No 1 tropical in 458 with full power loads, That ought to capture your attention

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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2009, 02:25:02 PM »
Now Ty, Atlaw has got you all addle brained talking about wimmins.  That rifle ain't no woman.  So that means you can have more than one without breaking any laws.  You can have as many as you like!  If you get the Ruger and don't like it, you still got the Handi if you get my drift.  No need to burn bridges.  If you ain't got room for both, I'll be glad to store it for ya. ::)

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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2009, 02:41:00 PM »
I don't see how the Ruger stock could be any worse than the Handi, it's pretty much a paddle shape.  ::)
I would love to keep the Handi, but I don't know if there's any way I can find the money to have both.  We'll see...

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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2009, 02:47:13 PM »
Here's some 60k pressure loads for the curious-

405 grain Remington                      Recoil-86 ft lbs
Muzzle velocity  ......Ve = 2700 fps

500 grain Hornady                         Recoil-94 ft lbs
Muzzle velocity  ......Ve = 2424 fps

720 grain Ranger Rick                     Recoil-124 ft lbs
Muzzle velocity  ......Ve = 2000 fps (only 54k pressure too!)

FYI 460 Weatherby has less case capacity than my fired 45-120 brass, so assuming the chamber on the Ruger is close I could run the same speed as the Weatherby.

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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2009, 04:11:53 PM »
Here's some 60k pressure loads for the curious-

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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2009, 12:40:43 AM »
Ty,

I sold mine and missed it before I shipped it.  Sit down and try to save some moneys first.  You just might find you come up with the cash eaisier than you thought.  Then you can have both!  It didn't take long for me to have another.  Good luck either way.

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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2009, 01:43:03 PM »
The guy is a bit proud of his rifle, so I will stick with what I have now...for now!  :)

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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2009, 02:47:46 AM »
That a boy you must learn to fight off those outside influences... weomen's, licker and guns from the dark side although they appear as pretty as Lukes light saber you must fight those desires ;)Kurt
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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2009, 07:30:29 AM »
What powder are you using? I use Accurate 5744 in my Handi 120 with Norma Brass and 350 Barnes TSX and Hornady bullets.
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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2009, 10:57:36 AM »
Tyler favors 4320 Dave.  I haven't got to try his loads yet but I'ma fixin to push some Hornady 350 gr. RNFP's with a charge (in the 70's) of 3031.   ;D

See the fun you'ld miss Tyler!?   ???  You get a #1 and post your experiences and everybody will say "That's nice, <yawn> ::)   Say, has anybody tried any new loads in their 45-120 Handy's!?"

The reason is simple... We all have Handy's, you will have a #1...  :(  Pretty soon you will feel left out since you can't contribute to our discussions.  Gradually you will come around less and less.  Oh sure, you'll try other big bore, Ruger and the like forums, but the respect and equality you have earned here won't be there.   :-\  To them you'll be this kid that wants to play with the grown folk...  :(

Naturally your fragile young ego will be crushed, you will doubt your ability, masculinity and worth and end up a homeless, drug addicted homer-sexal.  All because you want to buy a #1...   :'(

I just hope you are not to far gone and can still save yourself... Explore the limits of the 45-120!  Try different projectiles!  Report on all your efforts!   This will induce more folk to build one!  Next thing you know we will have our own forum!  Naturally you will be the moderator!   :o  From there the skys the limit!  Since, thanks to GB, you will be an internationally know personality, you would be a natural for TV, the movies, politics... even... dare I say... THE PRESIDENCY!

All because you didn't buy a #1...

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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2009, 10:59:48 AM »
I just can't see the point of the .45-120 with smokeless powder.
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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2009, 11:35:26 AM »
Dave, before ya jump into the middle of this, here's a little info on what "loads" Tyler has been working with.  ;)

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,148995.msg1098618734.html#msg1098618734


And Richard's...

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,175133.msg1098829408.html#msg1098829408

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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2009, 01:24:23 PM »
Richard, ya sound like a Bud Lite commercial. :o ;D ;)  DP
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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2009, 01:49:39 PM »
Ah, I see why AtlLaw is in his current profession! 

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Re: Would I be an outcast if I got rid of my 45-120?
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2009, 05:06:45 PM »
And I'm thinkin he's damn good at too! ;)  DP
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