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Democrats deserve to be in power
« on: June 10, 2009, 05:15:33 AM »
I have come to the conclusion that the Democrats deserve to be in power!!!
 I look at the Republicans and they are running like turkeys from the Hispanic nominee to the supreme court. They are terrified to say one thing about her! This is what they have done for ten years. The Democrats say you are being mean spirited and they RUN.
 When Bush nominated a black and a Hispanic to the court that the Democrats didn’t like they went after them with all guns blazing. They at least have the courage of their convictions! 
 The Republicans are just plain cowards!   
   Maybe it is time for the end of the Republican party.

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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2009, 05:37:34 AM »
the  democrats  vote for who ever the democrats nominate

the  republicans  just vote  and join  on of the many alternative parties

the  remaining republicans  are as  impotent  as  all  the  party jumpers


i  think  our  only hope  is to reform  the  less liberal republican party
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2009, 05:38:55 AM »
Neither party in my opinion "deserve" to be in power, it simply is the DEMOCRATS TURN TO BE IN POWER. CHECK YOUR HISTORY!
The CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN has been a thing of the past for far more years than the last decade, and I have been DONE WITH THEM for longer  than that.
How odd it is, that when I said this very thing during the last election I was chastised by most everyone on this website for thinking INDEPENDENT. Now, since the election is over, and the voting for the lessor of two evils also failed, it seems alright, and even POPULAR to think about something other than REPUBLICAN.
Come to think of it beerbelly. "YOU" CRITICIZED ME STRONGLY, for saying exactly what you just said by your starting this thread.
Has reality hit a few Americans too late? The election was lost by the LESSOR OF TWO EVILS, a loser in his own right, and the opportunity for a FREEDOM LOVING PRESIDENT has passed. Ahhh, to reflect on a past mistake, and forget the errors in judgment by voters, and even one's self.
Myself and a few others were saying this, BEFORE IT WAS TOO LATE, and we caught hell from you guys. ;)
Like I said: Neither deserve to be in power, but it is SIMPLY THE DEMOCRAT'S TURN. And when it is the Republican's turn again, you guys will vote them in. You always do.
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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2009, 05:48:18 AM »
dee  .... you  are right  about  it being  thier  turn

and  in either 2012  or 2016  it  WILL  be    the republicans  turn

i left  the libertaian party after  20 years  of  hoping
and realized  the libertarians  DON'T get a turn
no  third party can  beat the REPUBLICRATS

now  i can help  the republicans  make  better choices
i  hope  others will  help to reform  the liberal republicans
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2009, 11:57:19 AM »
Well, if another party starts to form up, lets call it the A.C.P.--American Conservative Party.  gypsyman
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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2009, 01:45:33 PM »
Well, if another party starts to form up, lets call it the A.C.P.--American Conservative Party.  gypsyman


how  about ''the united conservative parties''

working  with  CONSERVATIVE republicans....might have a chance
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2009, 04:06:51 PM »
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Neither party in my opinion "deserve" to be in power, it simply is the DEMOCRATS TURN TO BE IN POWER. CHECK YOUR HISTORY!
The CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN has been a thing of the past for far more years than the last decade, and I have been DONE WITH THEM for longer  than that.



Neither party is worth two hoots in hades:  It took me a long time to figure that out.  Was a Republican for 50 years.  I drank the Kool Aid and voted for the lesser of two evils every time.  Ain't playing that game any more. 

Every politician in DC is into someone's pockets.  None of them care a hoot for those back home who elect them time after time.

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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2009, 04:40:30 PM »
   Dee - I remember you saying that there was no difference between McCain and Obama, which I very much disagreeded with before the election and particulary now. While I may conceed that Ron Paul, or any other Independent candidate (Allen Keys?) would have been a better choice, they did not have the financial or political backing neccessary to make a competitive showing where money talks and BS walks.
   The Republican presidential candidate was a "moderate" who we expected to occassionally compromise with radicals to get a bill passed (the press elected him in the "Primary"), while the other was a "Socialist" who we knew would ignore moderates to make sure his agenda passed without opposition. If many of you were "done" with Republicans in power for 6 years (with a Republican congress), how about the Democrats in Congress that had been in power for 40 years before 1994? Even Reagan had to compromise with "Speaker" O'neil to get tax cuts and rebuild the military! (I will agree that history is not kind to the ensuing results of two houses of congress and a president being of the same party. We now have made that mistake two times in a row.)
    I would not criticize the view by many of you regarding the "fiscal" irresponsibility of liberal Republicans who behaved like liberal Democrats when spending our tax money. They deserve the same contempt as Democrats who want to "grow government". I draw the line when it comes to the same "big spenders" negative voting history on protections for the "unborn", 2nd Ammendment, free speech, legal immigration, and our Christian society. We now seem to be left with an awful lot of congressman who are working to oppose these rights and protections after we kicked those "corupt" Republicans out of office to "empower" the corrupt Democrats who currently populate the chairmanship of every powerful committe in the House and Senate.  We now have 16 Congressmen under inditement (yes, 4 of the 16 are Republican). And, we find every conservative social program most of us hold dear under attack because the Republican's spent like Democrats!  Why do the Democrats get a "free pass?"
   Obama is in "run-away" mode to distroy this country's economy and liberty's with a complacent, compliant Congress and a "cheer leading" media. I doubt if we will beable to turn this country around if he "breaks-the-bank" with his "universal health care"!  2010 is a long way away and 2012 may be a non-issue if ACORN and the White House continues to have control over the U.S. Census for 2010.
   Liberterians have a "losing track record" in this country because of many of their "liberal" views on drugs and "hardline" stance on "tariffs" and "isolationism". Most Americans have never seen a political ad or read a brochure on what their party stands for; nor have they heard of their candidates. On-the-other-hand, Republicans are convinced they should follow Gen. Powell into the "Abyss". He is going around the country telling people the Republican party is too conservative, while voting for Obama on the basis of "color".  (I wonder if we could get Cheney to speak for the DNC?) I have never understood why anyone ever thought Powell would have been a good candidate for the Republican party when he never stood behind one priciple he claimed they believed in.
   I'm all for a "Conservative" party (hard to do if we can't even agree on a name) that will deleate the "Rockefeller" Republicans and include the "Blue Dog" Democrats and 2nd ammendment Libertarians. However, even for some of you "take-no-prisoner, one issue" voters there will have to be compromise to get things done, which will probably include more than a few "dope smokers" ;D and "Isolationist". Our form of government depends on having "checks and balances" of opposing views; when we have a "think tank" where all factions agree on every issue, we as citizens loose because of no debate. I don't read anywhere in history where Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Halmilton, and Thomas Payne agreed on much, but they areed that their country was more important than their independent issues.
    You don't burn down the house to get rid of the rats.  It looks like Obama is trying to destroy the country by pretending to save it. He has ordered the printing of a "trillion" dollars in worthless cash, government take over the auto industry, mortgage industry, and banking industry while campaigning for the latest polls to appear ever popular with the "common" man.  I really can't imagine McCain doing any of the things that has occured in the first 100 days of Obama's presidency. Nor can I imagine anyone getting by with some of the most embarrassing diplomatic mistakes of this so called "intellectual" (ipod with my speechs anyone for the governors of the 57 states? The Queen has one), while apologizing for our nation's behavior to the muslim world.
    Since when is it any party's turn to elect a Socialist with Islamic and Marxist training to represent "their turn" in power? The comparison of past Presidents to the one representing any political party "pales in comparison" with this radical! His soothing speeches may sound devine, but the truth of his words are as false as his intentions.
   We have ourselves a "king" and we better decide whether we are going to be "subjects" or citizens by the time the next election rolls around. (According to the stats in the last election, we had 29% participate, I sure hope and pray we decide to participate a bit more vigorous in the next one!)
    
    

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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2009, 04:56:01 PM »
John McCain is not a "moderate."  The guy is a middle of the road liberal who shot himself in the foot with his McCain-Feingold campaign finance law.  McCain sponsored the illegal alien amnesty bill along with Ted Kennedy.  McCain teamed up with Lieberman and tried to ram their "gun show loophole" bill through congress:  Thankfully it failed. 

I held my breath, gagged, retched and voted for Juan McAmnesty only because Palin was on the ticket.    The day after the election I quit the Republican party for all time.  If guys like McCain are the best that the Republican party can do then they are worse than the Democrats.  At least the Democrat political pukes do not claim to be 'conservative".

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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2009, 03:08:12 AM »
If you want to blame someone, or something for the lack of a deserving candidate, put the blame where it belongs.  The primary system and the early voters are why we end up with the candidates that we do. 

"The Party" does not pick the candidate.  The only way that can be done is by eliminating the primary process and allowing the party activists to handpick the candidate.  That is very unlikely to ever happen, so we have the primaries to deal with.

There were plenty of good candidates in the primaries--at least on the Republican side--but the fickle, or should I say fecal voters sealed our fate.  My contention is that McGore would not have been picked, had the primaries and caucuses been held on the same day.
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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2009, 05:31:27 AM »
I have to agree with Dee, nether party is worth a crap. Time for a change, and I am not talking Dem or Rep.
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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2009, 12:23:20 PM »
I have to agree with Dee, nether party is worth a crap. Time for a change, and I am not talking Dem or Rep.


i  agree  too


but  that wont  make it happen
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2009, 02:37:39 PM »
  Neither party is any good, the Republicans are about usless and the Democrats are the evil enemy. perhaps it is time this great experiment of the USA collapsed...or perhaps a re-enactment of 1776.
  Frankly, I believe we are as a nation, doomed to slavery. Biblical prophesy indicates such and folks such as Alexander Tyler apparently had us "pegged".

   See below:

  Cycle of Democracy

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government.  It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury.

"From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising them the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.  These nations have progressed through this sequence:

"From bondage to spiritual faith;
 from spiritual faith to great courage;
 from courage to liberty;
 from liberty to abundance;
 from abundance to selfishness;
 from selfishness to apathy;
 from apathy to dependence;
 from dependency back again into bondage."

Dr. Alexander Tytler, a Scot professor, wrote a scholarly tome, from which this concept comes,  called "The Athenian Republic" which was published shortly before the thirteen American colonies gained independence from Britain.  "Google" him to learn more.

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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2009, 03:14:48 PM »
John McCain is not a "moderate."  The guy is a middle of the road liberal who shot himself in the foot with his McCain-Feingold campaign finance law.  McCain sponsored the illegal alien amnesty bill along with Ted Kennedy.  McCain teamed up with Lieberman and tried to ram their "gun show loophole" bill through congress:  Thankfully it failed. 

I held my breath, gagged, retched and voted for Juan McAmnesty only because Palin was on the ticket.    The day after the election I quit the Republican party for all time.  If guys like McCain are the best that the Republican party can do then they are worse than the Democrats.  At least the Democrat political pukes do not claim to be 'conservative".

I agree totally. If anyone wants to vote for the sold out Republican Party, then by all means, simply bend over and vote. Not me. I am voting for what is RIGHT! Nothing will ever change until the voters IN UNISON change. The Republicans will not change. They have no need to change. The American people have lost their courage, and follow blindly one party or the other, hoping one of the parties will throw them a bone. To hell with the Republican and Democratic bone throwing. I'm voting for the Constitution and Bill of Rights, everyone else can sit around wringing their hands and hoping their scoundrel of choice by "accidentally or mistakenly" do something good.
jager, on your points concerning Obama, and McCain I will respectfully disagree. THEY ARE THE SAME. They are two sides TO THE SAME DAMN COIN.
What McCain's PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE, voting record. Folks following fools like him is exactly why we're where we are now.
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2009, 03:29:08 AM »
  The latest election or "coronation of the messiah" reminds me of the history of old King Saul.
     The Hebrews wanted a king. God said "you don't need a king"..but the people begged and badgered until God decided to give them a taste of what they were asking for....
   It didn't taste so good !
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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2009, 05:23:48 AM »
ironglow, not to argue with you but, God ALSO SAYS: a little leaven spoileth the whole loaf. The LESSOR OF TWO EVILS voting method is ALLOWING A LITTLE LEAVEN into the loaf, and our government is most certainly spoiled.
We as a nation have tried too long to have it both ways, and it obviously does not work. A LITTLE RIGHT, means that there is also A LITTLE WRONG (leaven), and that is the problem. Our "political loaf is spoiled".
Nothing will change, until we as a nation change, and that will have to start with VOTING OUTSIDE THE BOX.
Our founding fathers took a chance that could have cost them EVERYTHING, and most of the nation now, has not the courage to risk even a little. They accept the crumbs that are tossed, and try and portray them as small victories, when they are in fact distractions from the actual intent of the government.
This DID NOT START WITH OBAMA.
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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2009, 02:07:51 PM »
The only way the entrenched political pukes in DC will ever change their ways is for voters to elect Independents to congress.  Can you imagine what would happen in the US congress if we elected 10 independents to that body in 2010?  The established order would fall apart like a sno-cone in a blast furnace.  Suddenly your congressman would start responding to the wishes of his constituents instead of kow-towing to lobbyists. 

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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2009, 05:57:58 AM »
That concept would OK IMO
I see two problems in this.
a. you have to find 10 candidates that are willing and able to run an effective campaign.
b. get enough voters that think this candidate has a chance of winning.

I'm not convinced there is enough pain to achieve both.
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2009, 06:31:21 AM »
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I'm not convinced there is enough pain to achieve both.


You are most likely correct.  US citizens whine about the corrupt and incompetent congress while they keep on re-electing their congress critters.  Go figure. 

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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2009, 12:49:10 PM »
Agreed; they may need more pain..but then it will likely be too late.

  Time for 1776 all over again ?
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2009, 01:05:55 PM »
The Soviets didn't push the missiles in Cuba to the brink because they were worried about SAC.
The One Worlders are worried about armed civilians.
It may not be to late before enough pain wakes up a whole lot of sleepy folk.
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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2009, 02:43:44 PM »
That concept would OK IMO
I see two problems in this.
a. you have to find 10 candidates that are willing and able to run an effective campaign.
b. get enough voters that think this candidate has a chance of winning.

I'm not convinced there is enough pain to achieve both.

Finding the candidates ISN'T THE PROBLEM. They run as independents EVERY YEAR. But, you are correct. The spoiled U.S. Citizen has gotten hungry enough yet. Or as you say experienced enough pain yet. By the time the average American wakes up, it will probably be too late.
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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2009, 05:43:37 PM »

Finding the candidates ISN'T THE PROBLEM. They run as independents EVERY YEAR. But, you are correct. The spoiled U.S. Citizen has gotten hungry enough yet. Or as you say experienced enough pain yet. By the time the average American wakes up, it will probably be too late.
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I agree! By the time America wakes up, it won't be America as we knew it anymore.
I think we have placed way too much importance on the executive branch, and less on the Legislative side of our government.

We will never be able to place a Ron Paul in the White House. The powers that be, won't allow it. They will pick a few identical drones to chose from, and tell the sheep to vote for their choice!(some choice), but we could send a few more Ron Paul types to the House and Senate. Just think of the effect of a half dozen R. Paul's on both sides of the isle.

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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2009, 12:15:24 AM »
To the original question;
  No; the Democrats do not deserve to be in power..nor do the Republicans. They all deserve to be living in a hobo jungle somewhere, living upon whatever they can scarf up.
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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2009, 01:07:31 AM »
but ironglow, you VOTED REPUBLICAN a few short months ago, and condemned anyone whom did not. Have you changed your mind?
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« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2009, 01:47:45 AM »
Dee; I did not vote McCain as a chosen candidate..but as a defensive measure to prevent the Obama massacre of our Constitution. If Ron Paul stood any chance of keeping the foreign pretender out of the oval office, I would have voted for Ron Paul.
  My vote was in essence, a failed attempt to protect the Constitution.  Only God knows where we go from here...
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« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2009, 02:04:06 AM »
Ironglow drank some more of the Kool Aid and voted for the lesser of two very evils just like I did.  The difference is that Ironglow will continue to vote for Republicans regardless of their stance on the issues, their lack of personal ethics and their history of corruption in congress.  I will not vote for any sitting member of the US congress nor will I vote for any Democrat or Republican presidential candidate.   

Two Republican congressmen went to federal prison; Freedom Fries Ney for taking bribe money from Abramoff and Dirty Duke Cunningham for demanding bribes from defense contractors.  More Republican congressmen would have gone to jail had Bush not fired the prosecutors who were investing their crooked shenanigans. 

That pukey little child sexual predator, Foley, should have gone off to federal prison for chasing little boys whose parents trusted congress to care for them.  Hastert the rest of the Republican leadership in the house shussed it all up and allowed Foley to skate without punishment.  They were afraid that Foley would blow the lid off the place. 

The Democrat ran congress is no better than the last Republican one.  However, it is the Democrats turn to run things for awhile. 

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« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2009, 03:15:34 AM »
Dee; I did not vote McCain as a chosen candidate..but as a defensive measure to prevent the Obama massacre of our Constitution. If Ron Paul stood any chance of keeping the foreign pretender out of the oval office, I would have voted for Ron Paul.
  My vote was in essence, a failed attempt to protect the Constitution.  Only God knows where we go from here...

ironglow, your voting habits along witht he MAJORITY of voters is precisely why we are where we are. IT IS YOUR "MINDSET", that causes you to be incapable of voting outside the "BOX" that the two parties have PUT YOU IN.
Of course folks like Paul don't have a chance. YOU GUYS CONTINUALLY VOTE OUT OF "FEAR". Same-ole-Same-ole.
As I said before many times. IF YOU ALWAYS DO, WHAT YOU HAVE ALWAYS DONE, YOU ALWAYS GET, WHAT YOU ALWAYS GOT.
TRANSLATION: IF YOU "ALWAYS VOTE", THE WAY YOU'VE  "ALWAYS VOTED", YOU ALWAYS "GET" WHAT YOU ALWAYS "GOT"
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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2009, 07:03:15 AM »
  It would logically seem that if we vote for someone who can't win or refuse to vote, we may well be  handing the job over to the worst candidate...by default.
   Party means zilch, but I will select by principles.

  Alsaqr;
  I am intelligent enough to know what I don't know..namely; how you will vote in the future. Obviously you haven't sorted that out yet, since you insist you know how I would vote in the future.
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)

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Re: Democrats deserve to be in power
« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2009, 02:52:24 AM »
Dee; I did not vote McCain as a chosen candidate..but as a defensive measure to prevent the Obama massacre of our Constitution. If Ron Paul stood any chance of keeping the foreign pretender out of the oval office, I would have voted for Ron Paul.
  My vote was in essence, a failed attempt to protect the Constitution.  Only God knows where we go from here...

ironglow, your voting habits along witht he MAJORITY of voters is precisely why we are where we are. IT IS YOUR "MINDSET", that causes you to be incapable of voting outside the "BOX" that the two parties have PUT YOU IN.
Of course folks like Paul don't have a chance. YOU GUYS CONTINUALLY VOTE OUT OF "FEAR". Same-ole-Same-ole.
As I said before many times. IF YOU ALWAYS DO, WHAT YOU HAVE ALWAYS DONE, YOU ALWAYS GET, WHAT YOU ALWAYS GOT.
TRANSLATION: IF YOU "ALWAYS VOTE", THE WAY YOU'VE  "ALWAYS VOTED", YOU ALWAYS "GET" WHAT YOU ALWAYS "GOT"
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i  always voted  libertaian.....till  recently
i  always have been  irrelevent
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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