Thanks guys, I will go with the 'don't fix it' plan, try my proven loads of the other rifle, they are not 'hot' loads in that one, so should be safe, but they shoot very good in the longer bbl. I am not looking for a target quality load, just a good hunting round thats consistant. I tried Federal factory 'fusions' ( 130gr) and they were pretty accurate in the other rifle, maybe in the new one..I hope.. But if a handload outshoots the factory load, thats what I will go with... that is usually the case with all my rifles, thanks again.. Bob