Swadging 28 ga.slugs

[kody]

   Is it possible to swadge 28 ga.slugs ,or might they be available from a European source? I don't see any listed in Foreign ammo makers offerings,and Ballistic Products Inc. only offers round ball projectiles.    Ken

[talon]

Go to   http://www.corbins.com/slugs.htm    There are words on the subject there.
 Also go to this site:  http://www.rceco.com/     if you are interested in making them yourself and contact Mr Richard Corbin via email and ask him if he can build a 28ga die set that can be used in a hand press ( such as his Sea Gert).  Usually, slugs in the 1/2" diameter catigory can only be made using powered presses. Having shot a lot of whitetails using shotgun slugs I recommend using only a simple solid lead slug held on to the wad column using a screw... something like the Brenneke design. I'm fairly sure no cast-in fins are needed. as long as the wad column is used as part of the bullet. Remember, the 'fancier' the design, the more you'll spend for the dies. Keep it simple. Simple works just fine.

[kody]

   Thank you "Talon". I went to both sites and sent a email to Mr. Corbin. Offhand I would say that his type setup is way beyond my means ,but I asked anyway. Thanks again,    Ken

[kody]

 2 Questions for swagers[ I looked it up and I've been spelling it wrong--I apologize ,but now you guys who mispell VARMINT have to change too! }---- Could an off the shelf 20 ga. slug be extruded to a .505" dia,then trimmed to a length/weight that would work in a 28 Ga.? What diameter is the BODY of the 20 ga. slug and the height of the fins ?  The "knob" of the 28 ga.cushion/seal could be gripped by the flowing ,extruded lead and provide retention of the seal.   KL

[Drilling Man]

2 Questions for swagers[ I looked it up and I've been spelling it wrong--I apologize ,but now you guys who mispell VARMINT have to change too! }---- Could an off the shelf 20 ga. slug be extruded to a .505" dia,then trimmed to a length/weight that would work in a 28 Ga.? What diameter is the BODY of the 20 ga. slug and the height of the fins ?  The "knob" of the 28 ga.cushion/seal could be gripped by the flowing ,extruded lead and provide retention of the seal.   KL

  Shoot, you may as well get "extruded" right too...  I assume you mean take a 20ga slug, and make it a smaller diameter to 28ga.? 

  When it comes to bullet making, any time you make something "bigger", it's called swageing.  Any time you make something "smaller", it's called drawing.

  So, i'm assumeing you want to draw a 20ga slug to 28ga.??

  DM

[kody]

 A spelling contest is it?  Try " assuming" over again then!  To extrude is to push through , to draw is to pull through! If you push a large mass through a smmll hole it is called extruding. If you can PULL a lead mass through a small hole invite me to the show!  Ken

[Drilling Man]

A spelling contest is it?  Try " assuming" over again then!  To extrude is to push through , to draw is to pull through! If you push a large mass through a smmll hole it is called extruding. If you can PULL a lead mass through a small hole invite me to the show!  Ken

  First of all, there's NO spelling contest going on, on my part...

  And when it comes to bullet making, swage up, draw down...  Look it up for yourself.

  DM

[PHATINJUN]

Kody why are you looking for .505 my 28ga is .550 or are you working with a full choke ? Kurt

[kody]

 Kurt, My Mod. 28 measures .541" at the muzzel. I used .505" mistakenly.  That is the dimension of the roundball supplied by BPI with their seal/cushion for handloading 28 slugshells. Their spokesman stated "the current 28 gauge roundball is choke undersized and can be launched at speeds over 1700 fps. Have you any idea what "choke undersized" means? He also stated in another email that "the 28 gauge is a fine bore diameter for round ball use however most 28 gauge guns are designed as "light field shotguns" and perhaps too often a bit delicate for hard [slug] use" . I think that last statement is the pertinant one and it wil be up to hand loaders to get what they want. It still leaves the door open for a slug fabricater. BPI is concerned about Benneke's "vigorous " patent defense. Does the defense of a design cover a product they don't even produce?     Ken

[PHATINJUN]

Kody I think what he is saying with the "choke undersized" is they make the balls .505 and use the wad/gas seal instead of the bullet to seal the bore . .505 would be a very safe dia in any choke 28ga. I need to go back and check some stuff again as I finnally slugged my bore and I think I could use a soft slug in the .540 range my self when I was sure it had to be .550 before . Did you check out the Dixie Tusker slug design .I think that is maybe the one that looks  the best to have a mold made for .I'm not that far into casting yet to have a mold made...but I'll get there.Kurt

[mcwoodduck]

Any of the black powder supplies for .54 cal will work out of a 28 ga.
With the .54 slugs being a little under sized as well as pure lead I do not think you will have a problem.
I would look to get slugs in that weigh the same as the shot load.  So 3/4Oz is equal to about 328 grains.
5/8 Oz = 273.44