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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2009, 03:20:09 PM »
If one would care to search and read, Palin has a history of firing government employees,  she caused a lot of pain for even republicans while working her way up to governor.  She had people paying fines and stepping down from office.   She has enemies on both sides, and they have lots of money.....

I like that.  I like that because it's something that most all of us who are fet up would like to do ourselves, if we could.  We all want things like that to happen with those people who hold office...and when we find someone with the sand to do it....we complain?  Well, if that's the way it is...we are doomed for sure.  I'll stand by any person who fights the system.  I figure anyone who is hated so much by those people in both parties who take our money and blow it, and if the media hates them too...they must be doing what I would do if I had the means.   Ron Paul gets the same treatment, he's a nobody to all of them,  but he hits the nail on the head too lot's of times.  I think we should not be so picky about who represents our views, there isn't anyone out there that's perfect for all of us, but right now...there isn't anyone out there at all who stands up for most any of our views, let alone a few of them.  If I can find someone politicians in both parties and the media hate with a passion the chances are, it's a person who thinks like me.  Beacuse those let wingers would tear me to pieces 10 times more than "Joe the Plummer" too if I had any coverage on how I feel.   I could care less about people running for office with lot's of schooling, great speech, foreign affairs.....I want someone to go in there and do some snooping around and find out who the crooks are and cause some real trouble.  Palin is as close as I can get to that right now.  You bet those people in Washington don't want her anywhere near there, because of her history with other government employees...some in her own party.  Things in Washington work like any large business....there are good old boys there with gobs of unlimited money that protect each other.  They are pretty careful who they want to be around. 

Maybe I'm at the point now where I'm not so fusy.... but just give me the most normal person we can find that "they" don't like...it's a start. Doesn't have to be Palin either....anyone "they" hate is good enough for me right now. 

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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2009, 03:59:08 PM »
 trouble with some guys is they claim to be fed up with both Democrats and republicans..then they go on talking "party talk"..
 Just forget PARTY and see what she stands for..When she announced her resignation last week she said she would help conservative candidates, whether they were Republicans, 3rd party or "no party at all".
  One would not expect her to back any Democrat unless it is a very unusual one, because she has made it quite clear that she is pro-life, pro-God, pro-2nd amendment, has a very strong work ethic and likes to hunt, fish and be real and honest. How many Democrats would fill that bill?
  She believes in a strong military..and will fund them..her son is in a stryker brigade in Iraq.

  Put all that together along with knock-out good looks and we can see how fortunate Todd Palin is..and we could be with a hard working, HONEST pres.
  I believe she will possibly start hitting the "tea parties", and if she can get enough grass roots support, she may not run with a major party..or if her strength is good enough, bring a major party back to it's senses & roots.

  We all claim to be outdoor sportsmen with concern for the 2nd amendment to turn our back on Palin, would be like cutting off our nose to spite our face.

  For you guys that have no idea what she stands for, ask the Alaskans on this forum..they know what she stands for! In fact, go ahead and ask Sourdough..bet he can tell you...
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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2009, 02:17:57 AM »
How has Sarah Palin publicly articulated her positions on national tax policy? Show me some links from credible sources.
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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2009, 02:49:25 AM »
See just because she is a lady she is expected to not use political spin !
To clearly speak her view . That just ain't fair . Enen Regan wasn't that clear until after he was elected .
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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2009, 02:50:29 AM »
Besides when did Americans cloud an election with facts ?
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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2009, 03:06:50 AM »
Are these not facts about Sarah Palin?

In 2007, soon after becoming governor, she proposed raising taxes on energy producers, an idea McCain strongly opposed. The legislature boosted the tax on oil pumped from state-owned land, with the rate increasing when prices exceed a benchmark of $52-a-barrel. Palin signed the bill and, in 2008, the new tax was expected to bring in more than $5 billion. That is a staggering sum for a state which projects only about $13 billion in total revenues.

She was first elected as a supporter of a newly-imposed 2 percent sales tax. Those tax revenues helped fund the infrastructure that made the town a magnet for big box stores. Thanks to the sales boom, revenues soared. All that growth made it possible for her to slash the sales tax rate to 0.5%—a step she used to help promote her run for governor. But she did not cut town spending. In fact, its operating budget increased from about $4 million to $6 million during her tenure.


Take a deep and critical look at this messiah of the right.


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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2009, 03:13:56 AM »
In a state without state income tax and if i remember correctly the state  shares with the citizens some of the revnue from the oil in the form of a check each year .
Are we not to like someone who loods out for the town and grows it at little cost to the citizens but benifits them ? A short while ago some on GB were complainig about cost of liveng up there , the box stores would only lower that cost and draw more citizens .
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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2009, 03:24:25 AM »
Questor;
  Keep tuned, I believe you will hear more from Sarah in coming weeks & months. I would just expect that her tax policy would be much different than "O" or the Dems. judging by her past performance she will slash taxes for the people & small businesses. just give it a few weeks and we will all have a better grasp of where she stands.
  True, we don't know every detail about how she operates, but with what we do know she is better than anything the Democrat/Socialists have anywhere in their number.  Be patient..and listen.
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« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2009, 03:26:45 AM »
That's fine Shootall, but in a state that depends mostly on oil for its revenue, does it make sense to "bite the hand that feeds you"? After all, the oil companies don't have to do much if they wanted to turn Wasilla into a ghost town.
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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2009, 03:30:20 AM »
Ironglow:

That's what I'm saying. If there ever emerges a difference between Palin and Obama on policy, then I'd like to see it. All I see today is smoke, and a bunch of right wingers that are behaving just exactly as the left wingers who were so enraptured by Obama. There is no difference at all. It is just a form of mindless hypnosis.  It is not enough to distinguish anybody from Obama.

This recent chicane of resigning as governor is a good example. All the right wingers are seeing this as something presaging the second coming of Christ. She's "playing them like a cheap harmonica."

You're going to have to do much more than wait around for some obscure person to save the world. Now is the time to get involved in your local and state politics. Go to the meetings. Write letters. Call your representatives. You have to do it. We all do. This government is in big trouble.

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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2009, 03:38:27 AM »
Questor, none of my business but I was wondering if you are in the oil business some way? eddie
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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2009, 04:06:40 AM »
Nope, I'm in the general prosperity business. Without general prosperity, there is not welfare, the people have no power, they are ruled by a ruling class. I also have lived in countries with dictatorships. Ever have your next door neighbor disappear, or the local priest? I sure have, this is what governments running amok can do here or anywhere else if the people are not careful and assertive.

But the fact is, Wasilla is a city not because it has big box retailers, but because of the good fortunes of the north slope oil interests.
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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2009, 04:08:34 AM »
From the Fairbanks Daily NewsMiner today:

Palin appears on Fairbanks gun rights radio talk show
By Rena Delbridge

 

FAIRBANKS — Fans and the simply curious packed a narrow sidewalk to hear Gov. Sarah Palin say a few words and sign gun-related legislation Friday afternoon in Fairbanks.

The ceremonial event was one of several Palin has staged throughout Alaska this week following her abrupt resignation July 3. She also spent an hour talking about Second Amendment rights and guns with conservative talk radio host and special caller Ted Nugent, a former rock star and a notable pro-gun spokesman.

Richard Stevens of Fairbanks stood on the street corner at the bill signing to see history in the making.

It wasn’t the bill being signed — a somewhat routine matter of changing the renewal date for concealed weapons permits. Instead, he’s convinced Palin resigned her state office a week ago to make another run at the vice presidency, this time with Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

“It’s political strategy,” Stevens said of Palin’s resignation. “Sarah’s way too smart to do anything dumb. I hope to see the next vice president. Once that (campaign) starts happening, we probably won’t see her much more in Alaska.”

In Fairbanks, Palin did not take questions from the media. Aides shuttled her tightly across the street from the bill signing to a radio station for an hour-long appearance with conservative talk show host Michael Dukes. Casual in a pink hoodie sweatshirt and black skirt, she signed a few autographs as she wove through a throng of fans.

Along with the bill, Palin signed off on four resolutions supporting gun rights and state sovereignty. Governors do not need to sign resolutions, which are expressions of the Legislature’s will. Sen. Joe Thomas, D-Fairbanks, and Reps. David Guttenberg and Scott Kawasaki, both Fairbanks Democrats, stood with Palin as she signed the resolutions and gave a speech from notes.

She drew applause for a vow to “oppose unreasonable restrictions” on state rights and individual liberties and said the resolutions are timely reminders to Congress that government works for the people and not the other way around.

Palin told the crowd she’ll be in Fairbanks before she turns power over to Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell at the governor’s annual picnic July 26 at Pioneer Park, also in Fairbanks. She promised to return again when the Stryker brigade returns to Fort Wainwright from Iraq later this year. Her oldest son, Track, deployed with the Strykers on Sept. 11, 2008.

On Dukes’ radio show, which is dedicated to all things firearms and bears the motto “Go forth armed at all times,” Palin fielded calls from fewer than 10 callers, all supporters, and enjoyed comfortable banter with Nugent and their host.

The conversation turned to personal responsibility for individual safety and welfare.

“I think that’s why you resonate with people out there,” Dukes told Palin.

“You’re not seeing that on the national level; you’re not seeing that come out of the Obama administration,” Palin agreed. “The self-determination, opportunity for self-determination and self-reliance, we want to keep teachin’ that, preachin’ that in Alaska.”

They also talked about her resignation, which stunned people around the world. Dukes said the decision disappointed him, but he supports the governor for “unshackling” herself.

“So that I could get out there and fight without the shackles, for our state and for our country, to fight for what is right, and to support the people who have more freedom than I do evidently to be able to cast those votes and administer the policies and the laws that we need to protect our Constitution,” Palin said. “Now perhaps my decision was unpopular to some because it’s unconventional; it’s not politics as usual. ... I’m not cut out to want to waste time or waste resources. I’m going to be freer now to fight for what’s right.”

She also said it’s “odd” that she is held to different standards for her resignation, and she brought up former Juneau Sen. Kim Elton’s departure from the Legislature mid-session to take an Obama administration appointment.

“No, they don’t say boo,” she said. “Kim Elton left his constituents to go to D.C. You know why? It’s accepted to go on to move into another political position, evidently, but how about just being free to do what is right for your state and for your country? Evidently that isn’t as acceptable.”

Among the crowd gathered to catch a glimpse of the governor and former vice-presidential candidate were Californians Peneé and David Hull. The couple cruised to Alaska in an RV caravan and couldn’t stay away when they heard Palin would be in town.

“We really believe in her,” Peneé said. “We hope she runs for the Senate. We need her in the Senate.”

Fairbanksan Matt Kato came out of curiosity for the “free show.”

Mostly, he wanted a chance to hear her for himself, so he could claim first-hand knowledge in political discussions with friends. The self-described political independent acknowledged he’s not really Palin supporter, and didn’t come for the pro-gun agenda either.

“That’s such a minor thing,” he said. “This is her excuse to travel around the state, like she says lame-duck governors shouldn’t.”

In her resignation speech July 3, Palin blasted some governors as “lame ducks” who, with little time left in a four-year term, spend state dollars to travel around on feel-good missions.

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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2009, 04:14:19 AM »
Cement Man:

My point is that having McCain in office now might have some short term advantage vis a vis this accurately named Obama disaster, but the long-term prospects would be far worse than they would be if republican party were not stimulated to reform itself.  I am very skeptical of any hypothesis that McCain might have been better, though. He did, after all, conduct his campaign as if he were asleep, so it seems likely that his presidency would be conducted likewise.
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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2009, 04:17:16 AM »
ThxMrGarand:

Maybe we need a "sticky" on this forum to capture the various policy declarations by Palin. It would be useful reference over time. Maybe it should start with a link to Sourdough's radio show, which may be on podcast by now. Then the article you just posted.
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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2009, 05:19:34 AM »
Questor in a COUNTRY does it make sense to bite the hand of the middle class as it carries the country ? Seems she was working to get them honest and then to get them drilling in more places . It would seem she was protecting her citizens and accomidating industry. SORT OF A LETS DO WHAT"S RIGHT FOR AK not speical intrest groups .
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« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2009, 05:47:46 AM »
Shootall:

That's socialism. How is Sarah Palin's socialist policy, which you just described, any different from Obama's socialist policy?  That's what my general question in this thread is! We have no idea of how she will lead, and we will not know until she passes difficult tests applied by the people. As with Obama and the left Palin is getting insufficient scrutiny from the right.
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« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2009, 05:56:15 AM »
No , Soicalism is when they decide and the citizen has no say . She only made big oil obey the laws and be honest .She tried to get more areas opened for the oil companies she did not make them drill if they did not want to .  She worked to improve the services for the citizens . Seemed to be a very good example of what our govt. should be run like .
Now if you want an example of soc. just look at banking and the auto industry in this country .
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« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2009, 06:02:57 AM »
In socialism, the citizens absolutely do have a say. They vote themselves deeper into the socialist model. The socialist countries that come to mind are socialist because the people-- the society at large-- decided that is what they wanted.  It has happened here, and as a consequence of the popular consent of the people. Totalitarianism is when the people have no choice.

The difference in America now is whether we go deeper into socialism. The republicans are doing nothing to slow down the advance.
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« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2009, 06:10:28 AM »
One other thing I would like to say is that, prior and during WWII, most Germans were very pleased with the way Hitler was running things. There was a lot of enthusiasm for him. I know this from what my relatives have told me. They were there, they were in varying occupations. We have a similar situation here. The concept of earning and maintaining liberty and freedom are practically unknown in the general population. Prosperity is taken for granted.

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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #50 on: July 11, 2009, 07:36:53 AM »
As for sales taxes, Juneau, Soldotna, North Pole, and Wasillia, are the only locations in Alaska with sales taxes.  The State Of ALaska has no sales taxes.  Wasillia has no industry, it is just a bedroom community for Anchorage.  Wasillia has something the rest of Alaska wishes they had, thanks to Sarah.  They have a huge sports complex.  Indoor Hockey rink, running track, Indoor soccer field, it's great, and the envy of all other cities. 

Questor:  Sara did not increase taxes on the oil companies, she only made them stop underpaying their taxes.  Sara increased the revenues on the oil companies because they had been given a sweatheart deal back in the 80s and had been underpaying revenues by billions of dollars a year.  The sweetheart deal was called ELF economic limit factor.  Due to the price of oil going so low back then and a glut on the world wide market, Alaska agreed to cut revenues to help the oil companies.  When things returned to normal the oil companies were to return to the higher revenues.  But due to corrupt legislatures and strong lobbiest in Juneau, ELF was never repealed.  All Sarah Palin did was get ELF repealed, and start getting the money the oil companies had originally agreed to pay for the states oil.  You have to remember, that oil belongs to the people of the State of Alaska, not the oil companies.

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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2009, 07:51:24 AM »
I don't blame her for leaving office. I think she realizes that she had no power without the new world people behind her.

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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #52 on: July 11, 2009, 08:23:07 AM »
That's what I'm saying. If there ever emerges a difference between Palin and Obama on policy, then I'd like to see it.

Sometimes the road just ends......and there is no going forward with those who want to see what they want to see.   
If you can't tell the difference between Obama/the runaway Congress you have now, and Palin....I doubt there is anything else to add to this thread.
Facts don't matter anymore...just feelings and emotions....isn't that the way it always goes.  I doubt we'll ever get a governor that taxes us less, goes up against oil companies in court, and goes after and gives the boot to people in her own party that needs the boot.  We currently have a governor here who DOES have the same polices as Obama and pals...and believe me...WE CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE.  We would be happy with Sara Palin here in Michigan.  We can tell the difference between the two governors very easy.  No brainer.  But then, we live it every day...massive taxes, corrupt leaders, borrowing and spending and taxing our way to prosperity I guess. 
Each to their own....I would imagine some people would be hard pressed to tell the difference between California and Texas too....it's all how they look at things I guess.  We hope to get someone like Palin here in the next election....tons better than what we have.

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« Reply #53 on: July 11, 2009, 09:10:36 AM »
Well the party Republicans in Alaska did not like her from the get go.  She got the head of the republican party in hot water over ethics issues.  Maybe that's one reason for all the frivolous ethics complaints against her.  Then she beat the republican chosen one in the primary something like 87% to 3% of the primary vote.  At first the Democratic legislatures were behind her, because they realized she was different.  Then McCain picked her up.  When she returned the Democratic legislatures were against her.  So now she had a legislature that is totally against her and fighting her at every turn.  She has been able to ram some things through with public support.

This has brought it to the attention of many of the complacent people here in Alaska that we need a real change in our own state government.  It has also brought to the attention of voters where some of our leaders truly stand.  We realize it is time to replace them next election.  Thanks to Sarah a few have already been replaced, since the can not serve in the legislature while in prison. 

One Democratic person named Lyda Green was refusing to let some bills pass out of committee.  Sarah mentioned it during a radio interview and public outcry was so immense that Lyda had to relent and pass the bills out of committee.  Then Lyda Green refused to adjourn the legislature early one day so Sarah could leave in time to attend Track Palin's graduation from Basic Training in Texas.  Lyda gave a speech about how Sarah was not much of a Governor if she left before the Legislature finished it's business.  Again public outcry was so loud Lyda had to relent.  The public outcry against Lyda Green was so loud over that  speech she was convinced to retire.  Lyda realized she had lost all public support and would not be reelected, she had gone too far and even upset the democrats in the state.
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« Reply #54 on: July 11, 2009, 09:37:02 AM »
Peggy Noonan's commentary in today's Wall Street Journal (At least somebody agrees with me, fortunately she's Ronald Reagan's former speech writer and one of the right's top intellectuals, so I seem smarter than I am):

Sarah Palin's resignation gives Republicans a new opportunity to see her plain—to review the bidding, see her strengths, acknowledge her limits, and let go of her drama. It is an opportunity they should take. They mean to rebuild a great party. They need to do it on solid ground.


Her history does not need to be rehearsed at any length. Ten months ago she was embraced with friendliness by her party. The left and the media immediately overplayed their hand, with attacks on her children. The party rallied round, as a party should. She went on the trail a sensation but demonstrated in the ensuing months that she was not ready to go national and in fact never would be. She was hungry, loved politics, had charm and energy, loved walking onto the stage, waving and doing the stump speech. All good. But she was not thoughtful. She was a gifted retail politician who displayed the disadvantages of being born into a point of view (in her case a form of conservatism; elsewhere and in other circumstances, it could have been a form of liberalism) and swallowing it whole: She never learned how the other sides think, or why.

In television interviews she was out of her depth in a shallow pool. She was limited in her ability to explain and defend her positions, and sometimes in knowing them. She couldn't say what she read because she didn't read anything. She was utterly unconcerned by all this and seemed in fact rather proud of it: It was evidence of her authenticity. She experienced criticism as both partisan and cruel because she could see no truth in any of it. She wasn't thoughtful enough to know she wasn't thoughtful enough. Her presentation up to the end has been scattered, illogical, manipulative and self-referential to the point of self-reverence. "I'm not wired that way," "I'm not a quitter," "I'm standing up for our values." I'm, I'm, I'm.

In another age it might not have been terrible, but here and now it was actually rather horrifying.

McCain-Palin lost. Mrs. Palin has now stepped down, but she continues to poll high among some members of the Republican base, some of whom have taken to telling themselves Palin myths.


To wit, "I love her because she's so working-class." This is a favorite of some party intellectuals. She is not working class, never was, and even she, avid claimer of advantage that she is, never claimed to be and just lets others say it. Her father was a teacher and school track coach, her mother the school secretary. They were middle-class figures of respect, stability and local status. I think intellectuals call her working-class because they see the makeup, the hair, the heels and the sleds and think they're working class "tropes." Because, you know, that's what they teach in "Ways of the Working Class" at Yale and Dartmouth.

What she is, is a seemingly very nice middle-class girl with ambition, appetite and no sense of personal limits.

"She's not Ivy League, that's why her rise has been thwarted! She represented the democratic ideal that you don't have to go to Harvard or Brown to prosper, and her fall represents a failure of egalitarianism." This comes from intellectuals too. They need to be told something. Ronald Reagan went to Eureka College. Richard Nixon went to Whittier College, Joe Biden to the University of Delaware. Sarah Palin graduated in the end from the University of Idaho, a school that happily notes on its Web site that it's included in U.S. News & World Report's top national schools survey. They need to be told, too, that the first Republican president was named "Abe," and he went to Princeton and got a Fulbright. Oh wait, he was an impoverished backwoods autodidact!

America doesn't need Sarah Palin to prove it was, and is, a nation of unprecedented fluidity. Her rise and seeming fall do nothing to prove or refute this.

"The elites hate her." The elites made her. It was the elites of the party, the McCain campaign and the conservative media that picked her and pushed her. The base barely knew who she was. It was the elites, from party operatives to public intellectuals, who advanced her and attacked those who said she lacked heft. She is a complete elite confection. She might as well have been a bonbon.

"She makes the Republican Party look inclusive." She makes the party look stupid, a party of the easily manipulated.

"She shows our ingenuous interest in all classes." She shows your cynicism.

"Now she can prepare herself for higher office by studying up, reading in, boning up on the issues." Mrs. Palin's supporters have been ordering her to spend the next two years reflecting and pondering. But she is a ponder-free zone. She can memorize the names of the presidents of Pakistan, but she is not going to be able to know how to think about Pakistan. Why do her supporters not see this? Maybe they think "not thoughtful" is a working-class trope!

"The media did her in." Her lack of any appropriate modesty did her in. Actually, it's arguable that membership in the self-esteem generation harmed her. For 30 years the self-esteem movement told the young they're perfect in every way. It's yielding something new in history: an entire generation with no proper sense of inadequacy.

"Turning to others means the media won!" No, it means they lose. What the mainstream media wants is not to kill her but to keep her story going forever. She hurts, as they say, the Republican brand, with her mess and her rhetorical jabberwocky and her careless causing of division. Really, she is the most careless sower of discord since George W. Bush, who fractured the party and the movement that made him. Why wouldn't the media want to keep that going?

Here's why all this matters. The world is a dangerous place. It has never been more so, or more complicated, more straining of the reasoning powers of those with actual genius and true judgment. This is a time for conservative leaders who know how to think.

Here are a few examples of what we may face in the next 10 years: a profound and prolonged American crash, with the admission of bankruptcy and the spread of deep social unrest; one or more American cities getting hit with weapons of mass destruction from an unknown source; faint glimmers of actual secessionist movements as Americans for various reasons and in various areas decide the burdens and assumptions of the federal government are no longer attractive or legitimate.

The era we face, that is soon upon us, will require a great deal from our leaders. They had better be sturdy. They will have to be gifted. There will be many who cannot, and should not, make the cut. Now is the time to look for those who can. And so the Republican Party should get serious, as serious as the age, because that is what a grown-up, responsible party—a party that deserves to lead—would do.

It's not a time to be frivolous, or to feel the temptation of resentment, or the temptation of thinking next year will be more or less like last year, and the assumptions of our childhoods will more or less reign in our future. It won't be that way.

We are going to need the best.
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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #55 on: July 11, 2009, 11:58:26 AM »

Despite her history as having been paid to write speeches for Reagan, Peggy Noonan hasn't said anything good, or objectively, about Sarah Palin yet.  She has, on the other hand, been frequently quite complimentary about Obama.  Finding a Noonan article that bashes Sarah isn't much of a find, nor does it lend any special credentials to the finder.  It's kind of like finding a carp in the Mississippi River.  Big deal.
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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #56 on: July 11, 2009, 12:02:11 PM »
So Peggy Noonan wrote that venomous article.  She really has a tremendous
amount of hate in her for Sarah Palin. I wonder why?  Was it anything Sarah said about marriage being between a man and a woman? probably.
Of course she could be trying to make points with the current Marxist regime.
Seems they are frightened to death that Sarah will get her message out and are willing to go to any length to stop her. Lies, distortions, which are their normal tools.  It is interesting to see how disturbed they are. It gives us hope that truth will prevail.  From what I've observed they will continue to attack her and discredit her from every point conceivable.
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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #57 on: July 11, 2009, 12:38:40 PM »
Seems like an attack from the RINO's that have been leading the Republican party away from conservatism is a fine endorsment for Sarah. There is nothing wrong with the ideals of the base of the Republican party, the problem lies in the leadership which has moved farther left every election cycle. Now if someone like Sarah can move into the leadership spot we have a chance to reclaim our conservative roots. If we abandon it we will have three partys to contend with and 2 of the 3 will be liberal partys giving the liberal agenda a 2 to one advantage.

The leftward movement of the Republican party is probably more of a conspiracy theory than JFK, WTC, and the Peantagon combined and then multiplied with Roswell. This is not a effort by Republicans to get elected, it is a concerted effort by liberal scum to infitrate and destroy any conservative roots of the Republican party. Sad thing is is that there are alot of folks who are stupid enough to play along with it.
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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #58 on: July 11, 2009, 02:35:23 PM »
  We muist understand that many women are more emotional than logical, even when they seem to be the cerebral type. appaqrently  Peggy Noonan is no exception. You bring a real beauty into a room and about half the women (the emotionally driven ones) will exhibit hostility in spite of themselves. Of course, some women are above the "catty" stuff but there are enough who react viscerally to cause a problem.
  Some men have wives/girlfriends who are the emotion driven types and hate Sarah because she is beautiful AND smart. In order to keep peace around the house, these guys will call Sarah all the ugly names they can think of , just to keep their "boss half" off their back.
  If as men, they truly did not agree with Sarah's ideas or performance, they would speak rationally..not using hateful, "catty female" terms. Such name-calling gives away just who wears the pants in their house.. :D
  There is really no debate, except from die-hard leftists that Sarah has been very good for Alaska. Just ask Alaskans! they know her best..and some even know her personally, from attendance at high school games.
   Considering all the anchors, commedians, politicos and leftists among us who are trying exhaustively to slander Sarah...somehow I can respect a beautiful woman who can honestly face a moose or grizzly with a rifle..than all the "cocktail party" pundits who try to promote lies about her.

  Go Sarah ! Show all those "politicians" what a real American is like !.. :D ;D :-
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Re: Sara Palin on the radio Friday
« Reply #59 on: July 11, 2009, 03:47:00 PM »
Well said IG, that is another way to look at it.

Questor, as a fellow minnesotan, I am just amazed that we elect morons like franken to positions of power, but reading your posts about Sarah explain a lot to me.