question re: Shakespeare Super Necedah

[Type99]

Hello...

Found one at a flea market for $25.  Been shooting it religiously, but it has one problem.  It had a rest intalled which is not stock:  a Flipper Rest II.  I had new string made custom for the bow, and I was ready to go.

But the bow throws the shots off to the right.  I have to intentionally lean to the left, and pull the bow down to get the shots to group in the center, and often groups are off to the right.

Now, my question:  would it be worth it to have the bow shop take the Flipper Rest off and restore the bow in it's original configuration, using what I believe would be a padded shelf rest (as I can see remnants of the original glue)?  Or, should I just leave it the way it is, and compensate for shots that get thrown off to the right?  Do you think the Flipper Rest is the problem?  Oh, I am using Beman Classics wood-look alike 400 arrows.  They work super in my Martin, but thrown to the right is the problem with the Shakespeare.

Asking for opinions here...

Thanks,
Gary

[Graybeard]

Mine has the original padded shelf rest on it. I recommend you go back to that.

[Type99]

Hello Greybeard...

Yeah, I think you are right.  I think I will drop the bow off at the bow shop and ask them to do a professional job on it.

Thanks,
Gary in Maine

[wormbobskey]

You can go to any craft store or wal-mart and pick up some adhiesive backed velcro material and this makes a very good shelf material. Mole skin or felt also makes a very servicable shelf material. Or you could go to any archery website and order a shelf for around 10.00 or 15.00. I have an old shakespear bow that has a flipper rest on it also and it shoots very nice. I do prefer to shoot off the shelf, but when I first got the bow and tried it off the rest it shot very well so I left it on. You might try shooting some lighter spined arrows out of it and see how it shoots. Just my two cents, Worm.

[Type99]

On this model bow, is the shelf material only on the shelf itself (the down side), or does material need to line the bow proper also?.  On my Martin, there is a leather tab, so the arrow is enclosed by leather on two sides.  This seems to work pretty good. 

[squirrellluck]

whqt weight is the bow? Are the arrows spined properly for that weight bow? I have had a hatfield do this with arrows not spined for the bow. The arrow actually flexes around the bow and if it is not spined correctly it doesnt recover fast enough.

[wormbobskey]

I've used the velcro or felt on both the shelf and the side of the bow. If I use the thicker felt on the bow I will take scissors and cut an angle on the edge of the felt that goes against the bow shelf and install a small amount of felt on the bow with the same angle cut there. This gives the fletches a little clearance. If using the thinner felt material I lay a short piece of round tooth pick under the felt in the center of the shelf to make the shelf a little higher. I shoot three fingers under the arrow so I always install double nocks 5/16th's of an inch above the shelf. The nock placement shouldn't have much to do with your arrows flying to the right, but you should make sure you have the correctly spined arrows for the bow.

[Scotticus]

Gary--As previously stated, it sounds like your arrow spine does not match your bow setup.  What is the draw weight of your Shakespeare?  What is your draw length?  What is the draw weight of your Martin?  Are you right or left-handed?  If you are right-handed, and the arrows fly to the right, they are probably under-spined for your setup.  If it were me, I would get rid of the flipper rest.  Leather, velcro, calf hair, and seal skin all make acceptable rests.  The velcro is easiest.