Author Topic: Has the republican party been nuetered or something? (Read 1256 times)

Brett · « **on:** July 12, 2009, 05:24:40 AM »

Cornyn: Sotomayor must explain 'Latina' remark

1 hour ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — A top Senate Republican says Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor will have to explain statements suggesting that judges can't be neutral, but he also acknowledges that her confirmation as the high court's first Hispanic justice won't be blocked.

Texas Sen. John Cornyn tells "Fox News Sunday" that he and other Republicans on the Judiciary Committee plan to ask Sotomayor about her comment in 2001 that she hoped a "wise Latina" would often reach better conclusions than a white male without similar experiences.

Cornyn says the statement "was not an isolated comment" and that it is "antithetical to the whole idea of the rule of law."

In the end, though, he says, the 40 Senate Republicans are not going to block her confirmation.

Dee · « **Reply #1 on:** July 12, 2009, 06:16:51 AM »

Question; Has the republican party been nuetered or something?

No not really, they have no need to be neutered. They are closet liberals and have been for years. By sitting back and letting the Democrats take the blame, they at the same time are promoting THEIR OWN AGENDA. Think not? Check their voting records. Few ever do, and the Republicans know it.

P.S. That orange is tuff to read.

What orange stuff Dan? Graybeard.

nw_hunter · « **Reply #2 on:** July 12, 2009, 10:07:58 AM »

Quote from: Dee on July 12, 2009, 06:16:51 AM

Question; Has the republican party been nuetered or something?

No not really, they have no need to be neutered. They are closet liberals and have been for years. By sitting back and letting the Democrats take the blame, they at the same time are promoting THEIR OWN AGENDA. Think not? Check their voting records. Few ever do, and the Republicans know it.

P.S. That orange is tuff to read.

How true! Most of my Republican and Democrat friends (Fewer of them) Don't have a clue about their voting records, only the BS that comes from their lips.So most are going to vote party lines, and it makes NO difference how they (The candidates) vote.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #3 on:** July 12, 2009, 10:31:31 AM »

Well J. Cornyn is a good example of exactly what Dee is saying! He votes like he is Obamas brotherinlaw!

He wore his cowboy hat and leaned on a fence for his campaign adds! makes me wanna cut fences and shoot cowboys, does that make me an injun? He like the rest all need to find new employment!

alsaqr · « **Reply #4 on:** July 12, 2009, 03:04:39 PM »

What Dee said.

Nearly all the Republicans in congress claimed to be pro-gun when they ran for congress. Guess what? The crooks lied big time. In all the years that the Republicans ran both houses of congress they did a net nothing for those of us who support and treasure our Second Amendment rights. Reagan did nothing for gun owners, Bush I put some crazy restrictions on the import of military guns, and Bush II did a net nothing for us.

Another fine example of the "lesser of two evils" at work.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #5 on:** July 12, 2009, 03:10:01 PM »

Quote from: alsaqr on July 12, 2009, 03:04:39 PM

What Dee said.

Nearly all the Republicans in congress claimed to be pro-gun when they ran for congress. Guess what? The crooks lied big time. In all the years that the Republicans ran both houses of congress they did a net nothing for those of us who support and treasure our Second Amendment rights. Reagan did nothing for gun owners, Bush I put some crazy restrictions on the import of military guns, and Bush II did a net nothing for us.

Another fine example of the "lesser of two evils" at work.

reagan outlawed new production of full auto for private ownership

powderman · « **Reply #6 on:** July 12, 2009, 04:45:55 PM »

She's a member of la raza, has gang connections, hates white America, pro abortion, pro homosexual, and rabidly anti 2nd. No wonder osama wants her in. POWDERMAN.

gypsyman · « **Reply #7 on:** July 12, 2009, 05:07:40 PM »

It was Bush one that put the ban on new Class 3 firearms. Reagan cut the govt. support to Camp Perry, I was there. If a politician does nothing to prevent gun ownership, consider it good. Be grateful there not out sending in the storm troopers.(yet) IF, this country makes it to the elections of 2010, it will be time to throw everybody out. Start looking for the most conservative person to vote for. Be it,Dem.-Rep.- or 3rd. party. gypsyman

nomosendero · « **Reply #8 on:** July 12, 2009, 05:08:55 PM »

Quote from: powderman on July 12, 2009, 04:45:55 PM

She's a member of la raza, has gang connections, hates white America, pro abortion, pro homosexual, and rabidly anti 2nd. No wonder osama wants her in. POWDERMAN.

Would anyone expect different?

nomosendero · « **Reply #9 on:** July 12, 2009, 05:11:57 PM »

Yes, what Dee said.

Also, I was told by several here on a previous thread that I was wrong for no longer voting for the lessor of two evils. Look at the position of these 40 Senators & explain to me how I am messing up!

jcn59 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 12, 2009, 06:40:10 PM »

CURIOUS~~~~

When the going gets tough......will people stand by the U.S. constitution or our anti-American congress?

Hint: Why are so many people hoarding ammo & canned goods?

torpedoman · « **Reply #11 on:** July 12, 2009, 06:54:41 PM »

The dems raked everyone over the coals and never got called racist but the poor excuse for republicans are scared to contest anyone it wouldn't be politically correct so we are going to have her on the court no matter what.

williamlayton · « **Reply #12 on:** July 12, 2009, 10:55:36 PM »

I have a differnt take.
It seems that while the Republicans were infighting in the last election, the far right portion of our population learned how to come together and they got all of the, previously split, splinter groups too co-operate.
Now they have discovered the power of the vote and the fact that they can do what they want, right/wrong, correct/incorrect, good/bad.
It is the worse scene of a horrow movie gone beserk.
Sure the Republicans are splintered, there are conservatives, moderates and semi-moderates and they are not co-operating.
If you think that ultra-conservatives can win elections then you are wrong and you have the last election too be a proof.
Blessings

alsaqr · « **Reply #13 on:** July 13, 2009, 12:09:04 AM »

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It was Bush one that put the ban on new Class 3 firearms.

Reagan did it in 1986.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1954413/posts

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In 1986, a new federal law banned any more machine guns from ever reaching the hands of ordinary, law-abiding citizens. That meant that the existing collection of about 100,000 privately-owned machine guns would be the only ones ever to be lawfully possessed. That’s well less than one machine gun for every thousand American gun owners.

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If you think that ultra-conservatives can win elections then you are wrong and you have the last election too be a proof.

Agree with what you are saying. But they are not really ultra-conservatives: Rather they are ultra-chickenhawks. Not one of their TV and radio shills ever served one day in the US military.

ms · « **Reply #14 on:** July 13, 2009, 01:27:08 AM »

No there not nuetered there just doing what there told to do.

Incitatus · « **Reply #15 on:** July 13, 2009, 02:26:01 AM »

Quote from: williamlayton on July 12, 2009, 10:55:36 PM

I have a differnt take.
It seems that while the Republicans were infighting in the last election, the far right portion of our population learned how to come together and they got all of the, previously split, splinter groups too co-operate.
Now they have discovered the power of the vote and the fact that they can do what they want, right/wrong, correct/incorrect, good/bad.
It is the worse scene of a horrow movie gone beserk.
Sure the Republicans are splintered, there are conservatives, moderates and semi-moderates and they are not co-operating.
If you think that ultra-conservatives can win elections then you are wrong and you have the last election too be a proof.
Blessings

I think that that is the point that a lot of people miss.

That said, I have cringed at the behavior of people who call themselves conservative-republicans. The hypocrisy, mindless spending, absolute inability to walk the walk or call others for not doing so, ignorance of our constitution and the limitations that it puts on government all combined to give us 2008. And today, rather than calling for hearings so that we can understand how the "housing crisis" happened on the watch of Dodd and Frank they ... actually, I have no idea what they are doing.

From what I am seeing, we stand a good chance to take the House back next year. Maybe. Frankly, the Republican leadership (who are they again?) does not give me any warm and cuddly feelings.

nomosendero · « **Reply #16 on:** July 13, 2009, 02:59:02 AM »

Quote from: williamlayton on July 12, 2009, 10:55:36 PM

I have a differnt take.
It seems that while the Republicans were infighting in the last election, the far right portion of our population learned how to come together and they got all of the, previously split, splinter groups too co-operate.
Now they have discovered the power of the vote and the fact that they can do what they want, right/wrong, correct/incorrect, good/bad.
It is the worse scene of a horrow movie gone beserk.
Sure the Republicans are splintered, there are conservatives, moderates and semi-moderates and they are not co-operating.
If you think that ultra-conservatives can win elections then you are wrong and you have the last election too be a proof.
Blessings

"and you have the last election to be a proof" Oh really!! The Republicans had a Moderate running who was supposed to bring not only all kinds of Republicans together, but Independents too. We always heard that from the media when speaking of McCain, REMEMBER!!! It was wrong then, as the election showed wrong now & it has failed every time the Republicans try that "Moderate" approach. An actual strong Conservative could have won, a McCain type had no chance as the result showed.

jimster · « **Reply #17 on:** July 13, 2009, 05:12:02 AM »

What is "ultra conservative"

To me there is just conservative....or not really conservative. "Ultra" confuses me.

Our forefathers would be considered what these days? Radical ultra conservative law breaking rebels?
Matter of fact they were considered that way back then by the powers that wanted the U.S.

Words got tossed around so much over the years they don't mean what people think they mean anymore.
There are very very few true liberals in the U.S. today...true liberals were conservative. There is a huge number of people who hi-jacked that liberal name and took it for themselves...they are socialists, Marxists...whatever....but they are not liberals. Even the names have been changed to mix people up, and there are many mixed up people now.

There is no right or left either...there is only right and wrong. go figure.

Incitatus · « **Reply #18 on:** July 13, 2009, 05:23:13 AM »

Quote from: nomosendero on July 13, 2009, 02:59:02 AM

Quote from: williamlayton on July 12, 2009, 10:55:36 PM
I have a differnt take.
It seems that while the Republicans were infighting in the last election, the far right portion of our population learned how to come together and they got all of the, previously split, splinter groups too co-operate.
Now they have discovered the power of the vote and the fact that they can do what they want, right/wrong, correct/incorrect, good/bad.
It is the worse scene of a horrow movie gone beserk.
Sure the Republicans are splintered, there are conservatives, moderates and semi-moderates and they are not co-operating.
If you think that ultra-conservatives can win elections then you are wrong and you have the last election too be a proof.
Blessings

"and you have the last election to be a proof" Oh really!! The Republicans had a Moderate running who was supposed to bring not only all kinds of Republicans together, but Independents too. We always heard that from the media when speaking of McCain, REMEMBER!!! It was wrong then, as the election showed wrong now & it has failed every time the Republicans try that "Moderate" approach. An actual strong Conservative could have won, a McCain type had no chance as the result showed.

After George Bush and the antics of the republicans for 8 years it didn't matter who ran. Maybe a Romney (given the brewing financial mess would have stood a chance but his lies really were a problem) but, on balance the republicans were given (and deserved) a time out. In any event, presidents have to govern from the center so a "True conservative" would end up looking like JFK

Oldshooter · « **Reply #19 on:** July 13, 2009, 05:41:46 AM »

Ya know what really happened in the last election was a a sort of "perfect storm"

The media had bashed the last republican candidate for the last eight years, that takes a toll, since the American public by and large are sheep.

The left produced an "I'm gonna fix everything" candidate and he campaigned as a moderate guy that only wanted change from the "old bad ways" of Washington. did I day that the American people by and large are gullible sheep.

The media did not scrutinize this guy they were his public relations firm.

Nobody likes war and American boys dieing! and the leftist said he was gonna stop all that! did I say that the American people are gullible sheep.

The leftist candidate was a minority and everyone, especially on the left coast and the north love to see a brother do well. Makes no matter that he did not have a clue and the fact that he was a leftist radical. Did I say that the American..................never mind.

The Republican candidate although a, a war veteran, had lost credibility and was a "please everyone moderate" who the conservatives did not trust.

The Republican representatives sold us out every time they had a chance to do a good thing

All these things and more made it a victory for the left and the beginning of the end of this country as we knew it!

Did I say that the American people are by and large gullible sheep, at least half of them are and some are just stupid!

kitchawan kid · « **Reply #20 on:** July 13, 2009, 05:55:24 AM »

Right on,Oldshooter,how about the way they all stood up for Palin, not.

Questor · « **Reply #21 on:** July 13, 2009, 06:05:59 AM »

FYI:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a1OA0Q60E.Cc

Incitatus · « **Reply #22 on:** July 13, 2009, 06:13:36 AM »

She is going to get confirmed. No question. All the republicans can do is respectfully disagree.

As I said, we are going to be paying for the antics of the past 8 years for a long, long time.

Questor · « **Reply #23 on:** July 13, 2009, 06:15:45 AM »

You're a lot clearer and more concise in your message than I am. You're right.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #24 on:** July 13, 2009, 07:33:03 AM »

HMMMMMM seems I remember saying that this Sotomyer thing was gonna be the kind of judge that the leftist was gonna pick and THERE WILL BE MORE.

Kinda gives more light to the watch who you elect for president thing! Enjoy your new country pardners!

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #25 on:** July 13, 2009, 07:43:50 AM »

Nope , they couldn't beat um so they are joining them .

nomosendero · « **Reply #26 on:** July 13, 2009, 10:57:43 AM »

Quote from: Incitatus on July 13, 2009, 05:23:13 AM

Quote from: nomosendero on July 13, 2009, 02:59:02 AM
Quote from: williamlayton on July 12, 2009, 10:55:36 PM
I have a differnt take.
It seems that while the Republicans were infighting in the last election, the far right portion of our population learned how to come together and they got all of the, previously split, splinter groups too co-operate.
Now they have discovered the power of the vote and the fact that they can do what they want, right/wrong, correct/incorrect, good/bad.
It is the worse scene of a horrow movie gone beserk.
Sure the Republicans are splintered, there are conservatives, moderates and semi-moderates and they are not co-operating.
If you think that ultra-conservatives can win elections then you are wrong and you have the last election too be a proof.
Blessings

"and you have the last election to be a proof" Oh really!! The Republicans had a Moderate running who was supposed to bring not only all kinds of Republicans together, but Independents too. We always heard that from the media when speaking of McCain, REMEMBER!!! It was wrong then, as the election showed wrong now & it has failed every time the Republicans try that "Moderate" approach. An actual strong Conservative could have won, a McCain type had no chance as the result showed.

After George Bush and the antics of the republicans for 8 years it didn't matter who ran. Maybe a Romney (given the brewing financial mess would have stood a chance but his lies really were a problem) but, on balance the republicans were given (and deserved) a time out. In any event, presidents have to govern from the center so a "True conservative" would end up looking like JFK

The center, like McCain.

He ran that way & lost.

"In any event, the Presidents have to govern from the center"

So that's how you feel Obama is "governing"

lrs · « **Reply #27 on:** July 13, 2009, 11:22:00 AM »

Quote from: williamlayton on July 12, 2009, 10:55:36 PM

I have a differnt take.
It seems that while the Republicans were infighting in the last election, the far right portion of our population learned how to come together and they got all of the, previously split, splinter groups too co-operate.
Now they have discovered the power of the vote and the fact that they can do what they want, right/wrong, correct/incorrect, good/bad.
It is the worse scene of a horrow movie gone beserk.
Sure the Republicans are splintered, there are conservatives, moderates and semi-moderates and they are not co-operating.
If you think that ultra-conservatives can win elections then you are wrong and you have the last election too be a proof.
Blessings

So, John McCain was an ultra-conservative ( whatever that is ), and that's why he lost?

That's just silly.

Incitatus · « **Reply #28 on:** July 13, 2009, 11:50:23 AM »

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"In any event, the Presidents have to govern from the center" Roll Eyes So that's how you feel Obama is "governing" Roll Eyes Grin

Actually on balance, a lot more than I would have guessed. He is more or less (sometimes less sometimes more) where Bush was on issues like rendition and a broad range of Executive Power issues. He is out Bushing Bush on Afghanistan. That said his spending is potentially mega Bushian and that scares me since I felt that spending and the growth of government under Bush were unacceptable.

The main issue is that the House has to be retaken in 2010. We have seen during the first 6 years of the Bush Presidency how counter to the interests of the people it is to have, in effect, a one party system. We saw it with the passage of the Patriot Act with no one reading it and the Obama version, the passing of the financial stimulus bill because "the sky would fall if it didn't pass yesterday" with no one reading that one. Same damn thing, different set of incompetents. No president, regardless of stated politics, can be trusted with that much power. If 2010 goes OK then he will be firmly in the center. He won't have a choice.

The horror will be if people demand candidates who are too far to the right. In general, they will be rejected as quickly as candidates are that are too far to the left. We are a conservative country, but not unduly so. Mainly, if I read things right, we want to be left alone. That translates into conservative politics. But mildly so.

There are always exceptions but I think that, in broad strokes, what I am saying is reflective of reality. The primary thing, though, is to focus, with laser like intensity, on the issues that government should be involved with and in so doing keeping it small and as inexpensive as possible with the absolute minimum of interference in the lives of citizens.

The Bill of Rights is a really good starting point. And the founders brilliant creation of three branches of government that are always vieing for control but can never achieve it, is the core of our freedom. And that is independent of political party.

alsaqr · « **Reply #29 on:** July 13, 2009, 12:53:13 PM »

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Ya know what really happened in the last election was a a sort of "perfect storm"

Bingo, Old Shooter.

All that the McCain could offer was an extension of the last 8 years.