Author Topic: BOMBSHELL…Supreme Court now has Obama Citizenship issue (Read 2397 times)

crustaceous · « **Reply #30 on:** July 15, 2009, 11:40:14 AM »

The guy's not a REAL SOLDIER he's a reservist grandstanding for the rest of the "birth certificate" bimbos

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/07/deployment-revoked-for-reservist-challenging-obamas-citizenship.html

Yesterday we told you about a U.S. Army reservist from Florida who has filed a suit in federal court challenging his deployment to Afghanistan by arguing that President Obama was not born in the United States and was therefore never eligible to be president and commander-in-chief.

Now the Columbus, Ga., Ledger-Enquirer, which broke the story, quotes Army officials as saying that deployment orders for U.S. Army Major Stefan Frederick Cook have been revoked. Cook originally was to report to MacDill Air Force Base today for mobilization to active duty.

The newspaper quotes Army public affairs officer Lt. Col. Maria Quon as saying that Cook had volunteered in May to go to Afghanistan and that reservists who volunteer for active duty can ask for a revocation up until the day they are set to deploy.

Quon said Cook had not asked for such a revocation, but would not elaborate on why the orders were pulled, citing privacy rules. Neither Cook nor his lawyer was available for comment, the paper reports.

The newspaper says a hearing is scheduled in federal court on Thursday regarding Cook's initial request challenging his deployment..

Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #31 on:** July 15, 2009, 11:50:54 AM »

"Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961"

Is that a fact about your Messiah?

H666 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 15, 2009, 11:56:12 AM »

I enjoy Springsteen, but that's another issue.

My main theory is this. If Obama wasn't a citizen, he couldn't have been president. Constitution, remember? Why can't Arnold become a president even though in bed with the Kennedys?

About the major, maybe he just realized, like Obama, that while the country faces depression, there is too much government money being put into liberating a bunch of people who don't care and can't use democracy.

scootrd · « **Reply #33 on:** July 15, 2009, 11:59:18 AM »

Quote from: DDZ on July 15, 2009, 10:01:19 AM

scootrd, are you saying we should all have faith in Obama? For one I really don't consider him a leader, and I sure don't have faith in him.
I'm with Dee, Springsteen is a Blind liberal idiot.

If Obama is a citizen, I can't understand why he has not come forth with proof. Instead he just continues throwing money and lawyers at the issue. It Sure looks like he is trying to hide something.

You guys read way too much into things. I like the quote .. that's all ..I don't care who said it. It makes sense.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #34 on:** July 15, 2009, 12:17:42 PM »

There are also questions if he ever registered with the selective service.
failure to do so would make him inelegible for a federal job.
he could still be president but they could not pay him and he would owe back for all the pay as a senator.
would save the tax payers a couple million.

LONGTOM · « **Reply #35 on:** July 15, 2009, 05:40:03 PM »

IIRC the KENYA airport refused to let THE LIAR IN THE WHITEHOUSE'S mother board the plain to return to HAWAII for fear of her going into labor while in flight.
They say she was allowed to board another flight after the birth.
His grandmother said he was born in KENYA.

Someone is telling a lie.
The question is who!

LONGTOM

Rustyinfla · « **Reply #36 on:** July 15, 2009, 07:02:40 PM »

Be careful what you wish for.

If Obama is outed that would leave Joe as President? Well maybe not he was part of that flawed administration right? Maybe we would have President Pel ...I can't say it.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #37 on:** July 16, 2009, 01:28:17 AM »

BTW who's job / responsiblity is it to check these things ? Should we not get a writ ( writ of mandamous or something SP got to be bad ) to make them preform their duty and get this over with ?

magooch · « **Reply #38 on:** July 16, 2009, 03:35:10 AM »

Maybe Obama will turn out to be a truly historic figger. He's not our first black President--he's only half black. He might be our first African President. We certainly seem to be on course to emulate a typical African country. Kenya say Bwana?

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #39 on:** July 16, 2009, 05:56:51 AM »

We were talking about the succession thing in our office yesterday.
The question comes if Obama was not able to be put on the ticket does that make a case for McCain to be President? Would if give Hillary a Case to argue that she would have been the Dem Nomination and she would have won?
Clearly at this point Joe would be the president. Scarry as that is. And The evil crow Pelosi would only be president if Joe refused it or was not able under the mental defect rule. WOW she could be... But then again the mental rule would stop her as well.
Is it just me of do all the pictures of Pelosi look like someone toook a blow torch to a Barbi's gradmother doll?

alsaqr · « **Reply #40 on:** July 16, 2009, 06:06:43 AM »

Obama is a total blithering idiot, no doubt about that. Attack Obama on the real issues that impact this country: Attack Obama on his huge budget deficit, feel good work programs and welfare healthcare.

However, when folks get on a forum, make up lies, pass and around rumors and distortions about his citizenship, it makes all of us look like a bunch of uneducated knuckledraggers. This non-issue was settled by the state of Hawaii last year.

dukkillr · « **Reply #41 on:** July 16, 2009, 06:38:09 AM »

Quote from: alsaqr on July 16, 2009, 06:06:43 AM

Obama is a total blithering idiot, no doubt about that. Attack Obama on the real issues that impact this country: Attack Obama on his huge budget deficit, feel good work programs and welfare healthcare.

However, when folks get on a forum, make up lies, pass and around rumors and distortions about his citizenship, it makes all of us look like a bunch of uneducated knuckledraggers. This non-issue was settled by the state of Hawaii last year.

And by the SCOTUS this year. Scalia even. And those are the same guys who decided Bush v Gore so it's not like they are afraid to appoint a president.

I agree with your take. This whole thread reminds me of the Anti-Bush bumper sticker "Let's not Elect Him in 2004 Either". I thought those were tacky, underdeveloped and childish then, and I think the stuff you see now about Obama is the same thing. It appears to me that most people have no problem lowering themselves to the level of those they criticized not long ago.

Funny how people rant and rave about how they support the Constitution right up until it says something they don't like...

He was legally elected, and a generally conservative Supreme Court has declined intervention. That makes it Constitutional to me. I may not like it, but remember that almost 50% of the country didn't like the last guy (who was no great supporter of the Constitution himself).

Focus on the issues, focus on facts and science to present your issues, and maintain your credibility by avoiding childish name calling and elementary school behavior.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #42 on:** July 16, 2009, 06:48:42 AM »

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Focus on the issues, focus on facts and science to present your issues, and maintain your credibility by avoiding childish name calling and elementary school behavior.

DANG, THERE AINT NO FUN IN AT!

dukkillr · « **Reply #43 on:** July 16, 2009, 06:56:34 AM »

Quote from: Oldshooter on July 16, 2009, 06:48:42 AM

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Focus on the issues, focus on facts and science to present your issues, and maintain your credibility by avoiding childish name calling and elementary school behavior.

DANG, THERE AINT NO FUN IN AT!

True that.

beerbelly · « **Reply #44 on:** July 16, 2009, 06:59:18 AM »

I SALUTE THIS BRAVE "PATRIOT"!

For once we agree Dee!! And just lisson to the Obama boy's trying to run him down. If you disagree with the great leader you are trash!
Beerbelly

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #45 on:** July 16, 2009, 07:05:52 AM »

Dukkiller,
Up until now there has never been a question of someone not following the rules before running for President.
When the State Department was asked if they vetted the candidates the official spokes person said it was not thier job and they should ask the FBI or the secret service. Both the Secret Service and the FBI pointed to the other or the State department as the one.
So with so many questions if he is able to meet Article 2 section 1 of the constitution he needs to answer it, not to mention the question of how he traveled over seas and what passport he held while traveling, was he a citizen and did he sign up for the selective service? Where and what name did he use? After all if he is allowed to ignore a law, and all the illegal aliens are allowed to ignore a group of laws what do the laws mean and can I then pick one law to ignore?

alsaqr · « **Reply #46 on:** July 16, 2009, 07:09:21 AM »

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So with so many questions if he is able to meet Article 2 section 1 of the constitution he needs to answer it, not to mention the question of how he traveled over seas and what passport he held while traveling, was he a citizen and did he sign up for the selective service? Where and what name did he use? After all if he is allowed to ignore a law, and all the illegal aliens are allowed to ignore a group of laws what do the laws mean and can I then pick one law to ignore?

After Wya Bush tells the whole world where he was after he deserted the TX Air National Guard.

dukkillr · « **Reply #47 on:** July 16, 2009, 07:21:58 AM »

Quote from: alsaqr on July 16, 2009, 07:09:21 AM

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So with so many questions if he is able to meet Article 2 section 1 of the constitution he needs to answer it, not to mention the question of how he traveled over seas and what passport he held while traveling, was he a citizen and did he sign up for the selective service? Where and what name did he use? After all if he is allowed to ignore a law, and all the illegal aliens are allowed to ignore a group of laws what do the laws mean and can I then pick one law to ignore?

After Wya Bush tells the whole world where he was after he deserted the TX Air National Guard.

Ugh. Now you're as bad as they are...
"Your guy skipped his military service!"
"Well your guy got drunk and killed a lady!"
"Well your guy lied under oath!"
"Well your guy is a secret Muslim!"

Blah Blah Blah. In this country the final arbiter of all things Constitution is the Supreme Court. You can hold your breath or stomp your feet or make grand pronouncements about who needs to do what, but that is the simple fact. This issue has come before them and they found no merit to the case. If you think it is simply a matter of someone not having made the right argument, file suit yourself.

Rule of law is part of America because it is part of the Constitution. This is no different.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #48 on:** July 16, 2009, 08:03:36 AM »

I am interested in this case as well as the answeres to the questions.
Personally I think all the Court will do is make either the FBI or the State Department incharge of checking out a candidate and give them a list of items that need to be checked off on that list to stop any questions in the future.
And while I am not happy with the current president the thought of Idiot Joe being in charge scares me more.
Again if we assume he was born in Hawaii or was born to a US citizen in Kenya and then traveled to Hawaii where his birth was recorded he then still meets the Natural citizen clause and can be president.
The Problems come when he applied for a grant for forgien students and he wrote his nationality as Indonesian.
Was that a formal recinding of his US citizen ship? And if so did he ever re affirm his US Citizenship and rejected his Indonesian citizenship? Is he still holding Dual citizenship?
If he is how can we have a leader of our country that may have alligences to another country?
Would we have allowed a republican to be president if he were holding dual citizen ship even if it were from Canad? NO! the press would be all over that and have the country in an uproar. every reporter would want to be the next woodward and bernstien. But for some reason they do not want to ask these questions and have them answered. Maybe they already know the answers and do not want to see the "savior" of Liberal/ Socialism not be president.

BBF · « **Reply #49 on:** July 16, 2009, 08:48:30 AM »

Just a fleeting thought on my part.
Considering how badly Hilary wanted that job, would she and Billy not have pulled every possible string and screamed from every moutain to demand BHO show proof of his eligibility if their was any question about him.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #50 on:** July 16, 2009, 08:54:43 AM »

Its not what her and bill want its what those incharge let them have .

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #51 on:** July 16, 2009, 09:06:35 AM »

I think she like everyone else thought that he was a senator and someone must have checked him out for him to have been sworn in as a senator. I think if Hillary had any thought about his citizenship she would have.
While the DNC would not have been happy about questioning a sitting senator about his citizenship I still think she would have gone there if she thought about it.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #52 on:** July 16, 2009, 09:15:48 AM »

I don't , she was cut a deal , she could not have beat Palin , she could not draw all the votes needed .

Heavy C · « **Reply #53 on:** July 16, 2009, 11:13:57 AM »

Obama hasn't been in office for years. Mr. Bush was a legitimate President in every sense of the law. Obama refuses to address the citizenship issue; therefore causing even more speculation. This soldier did a gutsy thing and he won. Now, watch the flood of U.S. service men and women objecting on the same grounds.

teamnelson · « **Reply #54 on:** July 16, 2009, 11:55:06 AM »

Hilary is set up for a future in the UN. When she's done as Sec State, I wouldn't be suprised if she takes a major position in a UN agency and they move overseas. Probably Dubai so Bill can be close to his favorite brothel.

Yeah, I'm saying she was negotiated down off the tower. Doesn't mean she didn't have the right ammo, though. Its all about markers, and she's got a few she hasn't cashed yet.

alsaqr · « **Reply #55 on:** July 16, 2009, 01:16:52 PM »

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This soldier did a gutsy thing and he won.

That so called "soldier" is a coward who wussed out after he asked to be sent to Afghanistan. He pulled the stunt as a propaganda ploy. I hope that someone in the Army has the good sense to send the sob to jail.

S.S. · « **Reply #56 on:** July 16, 2009, 02:47:26 PM »

A question to some folks involved in this thread...
So why is a reservist not a "REAL SOLDIER"..How many reservists
have died for you !!!!! I normally do not get personal here but that
touched a nerve. How many in this thread have ever served !
If not, your opinions have no meaning in the first place because you
have no point to be made! No experience to make even a remotely educated comment!
And those of us who have served probably know exactly why this
soldier did this. There was a serious statement being made that if some can't
see it, there is no way of explaining it. Patrick Henry would be proud!
Maybe some of the Obama Lovers should get some untainted history books
and educate themselves as to what kinds of men actually created this country!
Hell, Most of them were not "Real Soldiers" either! But they were PATRIOTS that loved their
fledgling country.

crustaceous · « **Reply #57 on:** July 16, 2009, 03:08:22 PM »

I'm sorry if you took "REAL SOLDIER" the wrong way. It was not a slur on the Reserve.
Sarcasm is dead.
You can unbunch your panties.

torpedoman · « **Reply #58 on:** July 16, 2009, 03:32:39 PM »

don't wish to bust anyone's bubble but this subject has already been to the supreme court and they refused to hear it and it was before the election.

Casull · « **Reply #59 on:** July 16, 2009, 04:12:04 PM »

Dukkiller, you say this:

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This whole thread reminds me of the Anti-Bush bumper sticker "Let's not Elect Him in 2004 Either". I thought those were tacky, underdeveloped and childish then

right after having said this:

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And those are the same guys who decided Bush v Gore so it's not like they are afraid to appoint a president.

Hmmm.