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Rubber molds & Resin Projo's
« on: July 20, 2009, 02:38:31 PM »
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Not to steal your thunder but do you mean like this? 



I had promised a write up on this back in April, they have kept me busy

at work and this is the first chance I have had to get my photo's together.

My job requires me to work with silicon molding material & plastic resins

while working with them I decided to play a little.......

here are some 45 acp cast in a rubber mold the resin did a pretty good job,

only a few small casting flaws, I measured each round for shrinkage and found

them to be dimensionally correct. they function through a magazine like the real thing.



the mold even picked up the writing on the base of the cartridge,

it also picked up any small scratches and a small ding in the case.



On to bigger stuff.........................

Do you have an artillery piece that's hard to find Projo's for ? Is Walmart out?

This mold is made nose down with a rod forming a hollow point, it also acts as a pusher

to move the resin out of the mold, the hollow point is loaded with a 50 cal spotter round........

this is for a registered DD Austrian 47mm AT gun WWII.


Simple mold stainless steel rod is hollow point fixture and pusher,
it is clamped it a vise to hold mold steady during casting.


Top of mold

Pusher starting to remove Projo
 
Fresh out of the mold



Here is a fresh Projo next to one with a lathe turned base.

The company that makes the casting materials is called Smooth-On
they are not cheap but there are plenty of possibilities.

http://www.smooth-on.com/


Allen <><
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Re: Rubber molds & Resin Projo's
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2009, 03:12:48 PM »
the world of silicone is amazing, not only for boobs  ;D
put a master half way down in childrens play clay
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Re: Rubber molds & Resin Projo's
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2009, 03:15:48 PM »
add the upper half of the wooden frame and fill it up with silicone
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Re: Rubber molds & Resin Projo's
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2009, 03:19:04 PM »
clean out the childrens play clay carefully
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Re: Rubber molds & Resin Projo's
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2009, 03:22:52 PM »
put back the other half of the frame and fill it with silicone again
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Re: Rubber molds & Resin Projo's
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2009, 03:25:19 PM »
take it apart and you have a perfect mold
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Re: Rubber molds & Resin Projo's
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2009, 03:29:00 PM »
and you can duplicate the master
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Re: Rubber molds & Resin Projo's
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2009, 04:04:00 PM »
Thanks Allen.  I get that the mould is a slicone rubber two-part mix, but would you elaborate on exactly what the projectile is cast from?

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Re: Rubber molds & Resin Projo's
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2009, 04:23:36 PM »
Thanks Allen.  I get that the mould is a slicone rubber two-part mix, but would you elaborate on exactly what the projectile is cast from?

I am using A-30® Castable Epoxy is an aluminum filled castable epoxy resin for making vacuum forming molds that resist higher temperatures up to 300° F / 148° C continuous.

I use this for making molds for molding plastic in a pneumatic press it is dense and takes heat well,  so we think it will hold up to being fired out of a cannon, it is not cheap If I remember

it is about 450.00 to 500.00 for the 5 gallon pail full.I will check on price tomorrow. These are for the owner of the company's gun so I can justify experimenting for him.


http://www.smooth-on.com/gallery.php?galleryid=241&cPath=1275

I want to add that some of the other resins do not cost as much and may give similar results
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