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30 30AI/243 ?
« on: July 24, 2009, 10:59:55 AM »
First time to this board. Any such animal as a 30 30 AI necked down to a 243 for the single shot shooter that does't want the problems of a rimless cartridge in an H&R ? Any help or dirrection appreciated. eddie
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Re: 30 30AI/243 ?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2009, 12:06:06 PM »
There's the 6mm/30-30, an improved version would be great!  ;) Unfortunately to do it in an H&R would be rather costly as the only .243" bore is in the .243 win which couldn't be rechambered to 30-30, it would have to be a rebored hornet, 204 or 223, or a custom stub.

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Re: 30 30AI/243 ?
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2009, 10:34:32 PM »
I would probably start with 7-30 brass rather than .30-30 brass.  It's a little closer to the 6mm diameter you're looking to neck down to, for one thing, and it's already "improved" for another.  Sounds like an interesting idea, though.  Would be neat in a T/C Contender, too, I think.
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Re: 30 30AI/243 ?
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2009, 12:08:33 AM »
Thanks Guys, I'll keep dreaming. eddie
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Re: 30 30AI/243 ?
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2009, 07:33:02 AM »
You could rechamber a 243 Win barrel to 6 mm Remington improved and add a rim cut to the breech face of the barrel and load your ammo on either 6.5 x 57 R or 7 x 57 R brass.
You can make a rimmed 257 Roberts and others this same way.
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Re: 30 30AI/243 ?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2009, 12:16:00 PM »
Sounds good JEDMAN, Thanks, eddie
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Re: 30 30AI/243 ?
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2009, 03:36:06 AM »
Eddie,  After thinkin on it, your easiest route would be to just have the rim cut made on your 243 barrel, add a rimmed ejector and load your ammo on necked down 307 Win. brass.  You would need to neck it down in several steps and turn or ream the case necks becuase they will be to thick when you get them down to 243 size.   Jedman
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Re: 30 30AI/243 ?
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2009, 05:57:13 AM »
Gotcha Jedman, thanks again, eddie
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Re: 30 30AI/243 ?
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2009, 07:59:45 AM »
Quote from: eddiegjr on July 24, 2009, 10:59:55 AM
First time to this board. Any such animal as a 30 30 AI necked down to a 243 for the single shot shooter that does't want the problems of a rimless cartridge in an H&R ? Any help or dirrection appreciated. eddie

As mentioned might be a bigger project for an H&R but I have a 6mm30-30 AI in a Contender that is an excellent shooter. I make up brass from 30-30 stuff as it is far easier to find, lasts just as long as 7-30 brass and costs half as much. I have a system for necking down and fireforming that works nearly 100%.
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History repeats... Re: 30 30AI/243 ?
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2009, 08:05:04 AM »
The .30/30 started life as a Ballard target cartridge, .32/40 well remembered. Little remembered, .28/30...  Blown out straight, .38/55. Todays shape/pressures; 7mm waters, .32 Special and .375 Winchester. Ladies rifle, smokeless was the .25/35. Improved it screamed. .22? .219 Zipper, father to the .219 Don Wasp. Today there is a 'smith who works with the thinking of Mr. Ackley and Mr. Donaldson, Mr. Brown/ eabco.com. He has some house cartridges, one is a 6mm on the .30/30 Imp style case. Cute little single shot rifle too. Enjoy.

As suggested, there are 'smiths making the .308 family WITH RIM on the .307 or necked down .444 Marlin cases. You order the rim cut on a .243 barrel and you have a rimmed .243 with cases from the above. You use standard dies and the rimmed case shell holder to reload. Might be a little warm for some of the single shots. Not cheap. But you have a cartridge of proven value... And you can fire --IF SAFE-- the rimless ammo, just bring a cleaning rod for "ejection..."  luck.
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Re: 30 30AI/243 ?
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2009, 08:24:39 AM »
WOW guys, getting there po boy style is sure a goal. Wonder if REMINGTON is listening? Rimmed/6MM/fast! Doubt it ! Thank you all ! eddie
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Re: 30 30AI/243 ?
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2009, 10:58:22 AM »
A 6mm 30-30 AI loaded with a 58 gr. Vmax sitting next to a parent brass.

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Re: 30 30AI/243 ?
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2009, 02:41:21 PM »
Very cool SKB!
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Re: 30 30AI/243 ?
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2009, 02:58:18 PM »
COOL indeed SKB ! You have a message. Thanks, eddie
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