Author Topic: Prison Cars and camps... somebody please tell me it's a hoax (Read 3131 times)

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #30 on:** July 26, 2009, 08:40:50 AM »

Remember Hitler's party was elected to office and he was appointed Chancelor by his party. Remember, the German people were in a depression in 1923 trying to pay back the war debt from WWI. A long depression, unemployment, people were hungry and needed to work. Hitler put blame on the Jews who were bankers and factory owners for the WWI loss. Blame is now being placed on conservatives and free markets for our problems to try to usher in socialism and more government control. Hitler's party was the Nazi party - The National Socialist Party. It doesn't take any special railroad cars. Any cattle cars and box cars would work if it happened here.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #31 on:** July 26, 2009, 08:50:11 AM »

Fourbee, I can seethe Governmet doing some crazy things but posting false information is not furthering the cause of the naysayers. I have provided information, and even better yet can tell you from personal experiance that those are car haulers not prison cars. Am I wrong?

Also can anyone here provide me locations on where thesae Gulags are ?

I see the sight has pulled the first page that was listed. I bet it was kinda embarrassing to have people know them are car haulers.

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #32 on:** July 26, 2009, 09:02:40 AM »

TM7 I know you approache the world with a good deal of skeptacism, and that is not such a bad thing either.

I do not believe this will happen in America. We are a unique population in this world. If you are here, it is because someone in your family got up off their lazy assets, worked extra hard and gathered the cash over and above the living wage in some God forsaken land to be here. They were necessarily more intelligent and more ambitious to have succeded in that endevour. Having arrived on our shore not a damn thing was given to them. They earned their keep, those already here may well have gone to a little extra trouble to keep them down as a matter of fact. They persevered and for the most part succeeded, in making themselves the richest and most powerful people in their families history. This applies to shoemakers all the way to the most powerful titans of the early 20th century.

As their spawn we have heard their tales around the supper table, the campfire, read about it in text books and watched John Wayne portray it on the screen. We take it as our destiny to succeed and prosper and will not be denied period. When our comfort( which is a sign of wealth or national treasure) is threatened, the American people stand up and fight for what we have earned, individual and common wealth. We will expend a lot of energy and frustration to avoid fighting, but have always accepted the hard work and took our oppressors to task when it was found to be the only way.

We are not of the same cut as prewar Germans or any other nation on earth for that matter. We are of an entirely different thought process.

Where we can probably agree is this. The rest of the world is aligned against us for precisely the reasons I've brought up. We need to be aware of the pressures being brought to change our fierce independence. Unfortunatly I fear the current President is of the mindset that we should be no better than the world. Dragging the US to their level rather than elevating the restof humanity is the plan long term I'm afraid. None the less I don't see it succeeding, for the reasons outlined above.

Yankee1 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 26, 2009, 09:59:41 AM »

Hello Everyone
As previously requested you can find the concentration camp locations at:
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t41810.html
And if more data is required do a search with
"concentration camps in the USA" you will find much more information
on the subject. Reality is they are there and they are staffed.
Next question Why?
Yankee1

rex6666 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 26, 2009, 11:29:41 AM »

if i am correct the people in germany were unarmed, and believed in their government to long.
When they start taking guns in the U.S. i think it will change lots of things.
Rail cars are rail cars, why would they need to build special cars to haul us to our demise, any box car will do that.
Has anyone talked to anyone that works in one of these "STAFFED CONSENTRATION CAMPS"
Please don't tell me every one working there is sworn to secricy, do YOU rerally think that will keep them from telling their wife where they
work?

Scibaer · « **Reply #35 on:** July 26, 2009, 02:30:40 PM »

unexplained mysteries, hardly a credible source for anything, except the 16 to 20 something crowd's self mental masterbating.
after you read about concentration camps, ufo's dropping bigfoots off in trailer parks accross the US, go to the metaphysic thread and have a few of them give you a psychic reading about your 6 past lives.
they suggest that shipping port in saginaw bay, be used for shipping out civilian detainees.. the core and ore depot under the Zilwaukee bridge.
well i live right near there, and all i can say about that is, nope nada, negative. that could be said for any industrial shipping post.
a concentation camp near camp grayling .. nope i trained there in 1994/95 at the end of my endlistment, my family has lived in the town, graylling since about 1910. the only concentration camp there, is south of military road, was used after the korean war, for training purposes. and when i was there in 94, was half rotted away, and wholy unusable, and is about the size of 50 X50 feet. it used for op-for training in the 70's. my close friend, stationed there at camp grayling now, helicopter mech. says its nearly rotted into the ground and over grown with trees.
now if even 10% of other states could report the same stats, and i bet they very likely could, then the UM info on "located civilian confinement camps" is a moot point. the nazi's confined jews and others to thier own homes long before they started rounding them up. how many GBO members would be in a bad position confined to thier own homes, guns and ammo ready ? if there ever was a home base for the tinfoil hat crowd UM is it..

gypsyman · « **Reply #36 on:** July 26, 2009, 02:50:03 PM »

I just left Camp Perry about 3 hrs. ago. Yep, they have built new buildings there. I really don't think there for prisoners. The shooters are getting tired of renting 10x10 P.O.W. huts that are 60+ years old with just one 110volt outlet in it, and a big fan can blow the fuse. Their upgrading all the housing on base, to try and get more shooters, and any troops alittle more comfort if they are living on base. Starting next Friday, the Hi-Power match's start. If their going to put any prisoners there, their going to piss off alot of guys with ar-15's that spend alot of money in that town. gypsyman

billy_56081 · « **Reply #37 on:** July 26, 2009, 04:36:43 PM »

Minnesota, Camp Ripley huh? Sorry no new prison there. It is the MN national guard training base, has a very small conventional military stockade for short term housing of military prisoners. But no large incarceration facility what so ever (well at least 2 weeks ago there wasn't)

. I can't answer for the other places but that one is HOAX. No if, no ands, no buts.

HMMM, the Hoax parts are adding up.

dukkillr · « **Reply #38 on:** July 26, 2009, 05:15:00 PM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on July 26, 2009, 04:36:43 PM

Minnesota, Camp Ripley huh? Sorry no new prison there. It is the MN national guard training base, has a very small conventional military stockade for short term housing of military prisoners. But no large incarceration facility what so ever (well at least 2 weeks ago there wasn't) . I can't answer for the other places but that one is HOAX. No if, no ands, no buts.

HMMM, the Hoax parts are adding up.

Oh no! Now the conspiracy includes Billy!

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #39 on:** July 26, 2009, 06:06:17 PM »

I looked at the list and I grew up in Opelika, Alabama. I also work for a utility which serves the town. I am an engineer and know the distribution system like the back of my hand, 34 years. There is no FEMA prison camp in Opelika. There was a WWII prison camp here and it housed about 2,000 Germans. However, it was made into an industrial park and all the old buildings have been torn down except about 2-3 for historical purposes. The area was used for Diversified Products Mfg. co., Charbroil Grill co., Ampex Corp., Opelika Foundry, and Opelika Welding, and a garage door company, a bank, a plumbing supply house, etc. If there is a place like a compound or anything like that it is well hidden underground. So, this like has some holes in it.

dukkillr · « **Reply #40 on:** July 26, 2009, 06:16:24 PM »

Quote from: Dixie Dude on July 26, 2009, 06:06:17 PM

I looked at the list and I grew up in Opelika, Alabama. I also work for a utility which serves the town. I am an engineer and know the distribution system like the back of my hand, 34 years. There is no FEMA prison camp in Opelika. There was a WWII prison camp here and it housed about 2,000 Germans. However, it was made into an industrial park and all the old buildings have been torn down except about 2-3 for historical purposes. The area was used for Diversified Products Mfg. co., Charbroil Grill co., Ampex Corp., Opelika Foundry, and Opelika Welding, and a garage door company, a bank, a plumbing supply house, etc. If there is a place like a compound or anything like that it is well hidden underground. So, this like has some holes in it.

Holy crap! They've got Dixie Dude with them now too...

Yankee1 · « **Reply #41 on:** July 26, 2009, 07:03:20 PM »

I guess no one did a search with the words "concentration camps in the USA" in the search. If you do you will find many many pages on this subject. It seems someone has spent a great deal of time printing all of this. For what purpose? Just because we don't want to beleive it does not mean its not true. Just start adding up everything thats going on. What are the odds that its happening by chance? What are the mathmatical odds? I believe that Christians, Soldiers,Anti abortionists, People that believe in the Constitution, People who believe in the 2nd amendment were recently classified as terrorists by
Janet Napolitano of FEMA. Accident? I think not. Have you read the new Health Care Bill? Just wait until you do. I just can't wait to hear how you justify that. Have you heard that congress voted 492-2
to rebuke Mr Obama's attempt at unconstitutional control. Probably not
There is much of great importance your not hearing from the media.
I guess you can't form opinion on what you don't hear.
Have a nice day
Yankee1

dukkillr · « **Reply #42 on:** July 26, 2009, 07:42:00 PM »

Quote from: Yankee1 on July 26, 2009, 07:03:20 PM

I guess no one did a search with the words "concentration camps in the USA" in the search. If you do you will find many many pages on this subject. It seems someone has spent a great deal of time printing all of this. For what purpose? Just because we don't want to beleive it does not mean its not true. Just start adding up everything thats going on. What are the odds that its happening by chance? What are the mathmatical odds? I believe that Christians, Soldiers,Anti abortionists, People that believe in the Constitution, People who believe in the 2nd amendment were recently classified as terrorists by
Janet Napolitano of FEMA. Accident? I think not. Have you read the new Health Care Bill? Just wait until you do. I just can't wait to hear how you justify that. Have you heard that congress voted 492-2
to rebuke Mr Obama's attempt at unconstitutional control. Probably not
There is much of great importance your not hearing from the media.
I guess you can't form opinion on what you don't hear.
Have a nice day
Yankee1

I love this view for its profound arrogance. Just because we don't agree with you means we haven't thought about the topic or read up on it? Maybe, just maybe, there are other people besides you who are capable of thinking for themselves and they just haven't reached the same conclusion as you.

There are millions of websites dedicated to bigfoot too. Congress voted 2,943,341-1 (Ron Paul) to recognize the secret bigfoot held at area 57 as the new emperor of the NWO. He travels around the country on the secret new highways... I read all about it on the internet... obviously our mainstream media wouldn't cover such a topic... They're in on the whole thing, along with Billy and Dixie Dude (and me).

billy_56081 · « **Reply #43 on:** July 27, 2009, 01:44:22 AM »

Well lets keep a runing talley here.

1. Prison cars turn out to be auto mover rail cars. HOAX

2. Camp Grayling concentration camp. HOAX

3. Camp Perry concentration camp. HOAX

4. Camp Ripley concentration camp. HOAX

5. Opelika Alabam no concentration cam. HOAX

Anyone have any confirmations on these "concentration camps here in America?

I have as large of issues with the Government usurping powers as anyone here. The problem lies in putting out complete and utter BS like this does way more harm and makes you all look like complete nut, than it does good.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #44 on:** July 27, 2009, 02:16:03 AM »

I think the Fabian Socialist that Obama is will try to garner more Federal power and control in Washington. It has been happening for the last 100 years, starting with the Federal Reserve, then Social Security. Then after WWII, regulations for businesses and commerce, welfare (Great Society), more Federal interference with schools. Then Homeland Security. Now the banking system, auto production, and national health care. Gradually down the slippery slope of socialism. Then if we get a major national crisis, and the Feds call all the shots, those who don't obey, well. We'll see how far it gets.

Chilachuck · « **Reply #45 on:** July 27, 2009, 05:06:33 AM »

Wasn't one of the things the feds caught flack for was not having a place to put the people evacuated from New Orleans?

rex6666 · « **Reply #46 on:** July 27, 2009, 06:04:14 AM »

Quote from: Chilachuck on July 27, 2009, 05:06:33 AM

Wasn't one of the things the feds caught flack for was not having a place to put the people evacuated from New Orleans?

That was one of the things, but the worst was the fact that the feds in particular
Bush let it happen to begin with.

Yankee1 · « **Reply #47 on:** July 27, 2009, 09:37:03 AM »

Hi dukkillr
We can do something about ignorance. Stupidity, not so much.
I did take notice that you tend to ignore facts with regularity.
Correct conclusions cannot be obtained with such disdain for facts.
However if they interfere with your agenda you may be using a method that suits your requirments. If you can't debate the issue then you attempt to ridicule. Nice try but people will see the issues.
Have a nice day
Yankee1

billy_56081 · « **Reply #48 on:** July 27, 2009, 09:47:05 AM »

Yankee1 where are your facts?

So far there has been several things in this thread that are being confirmed as hoaxes, the prison cars are auto movers and several of the "consentration camps" listed under that link here are known by forum users and are hoaxes.

I for one have no trust of our government, but there has been no proof here, only silly made up crap.

Yankee1 · « **Reply #49 on:** July 27, 2009, 10:46:15 AM »

Hello Bill
I was refering to the fact of what Janet Napolitano said.
When I find information of common interest I pass it on to my friends so that they can evaluate it themselves.
It seems some people attack the messenger instead.
They prefer to pretend that I am the originator of message.
I am a conservative gun owner that believes in our country and our constitution. This seems to upset people whom have a contrary agenda. I also am a veteran of the Korean war.
There are folks that try to lead the conversation in any direction that suits their purpose. They prefer to disuade you from discusing things that are opposing their veiws.
Yankee1

FourBee · « **Reply #50 on:** July 27, 2009, 11:40:09 AM »

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the prison cars are auto movers and several of the "consentration camps" listed under that link here are known by forum users and are hoaxes.

Hey there Billy:
You know as well as anyone, that if rail box and cattle cars can be used, why not a shinny double decker rail car-hauler, they would be ideal? As far as the concentration camps are concerned, they can use any facility they deem necessary. The army base in Fort Smith, AR where Elvis Presley was given his first military haircut has been used as a concentration camp twice in recent years. Once with Vietnamese and once with Katrina refugees.

p.s. Oh; I forgot about the Cubans, they were a rowdy bunch. That's when the military really tightened down the security.

Yankee1 · « **Reply #51 on:** July 27, 2009, 12:08:24 PM »

Hello Everyone
More to read on.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/
You will find more items of interest. Might as well keep up with what your not being told by our media.
Yankee1

billy_56081 · « **Reply #52 on:** July 27, 2009, 12:18:26 PM »

Fourbee they can use my daddys turkey barn as a concentration camp if they want heck I can even make up a scenario where that would be used. But as for now the people posting this are really reaching. These concentration camps were claimed to be newly built and prison. Camp Ripley while it has some new structures is not built to hold prisoners. As far as the car carriers being used as "prison cars" eck with enough imagination one could consider any enclosed cargo truck seen driving down the road as a "prison truck". If you guys want to be taken seriously you need to stop this far out reaching. It makes you look like silly children with huge imaginations.

dukkillr · « **Reply #53 on:** July 27, 2009, 12:49:05 PM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on July 27, 2009, 12:18:26 PM

Fourbee they can use my daddys turkey barn as a concentration camp if they want heck I can even make up a scenario where that would be used. But as for now the people posting this are really reaching. These concentration camps were claimed to be newly built and prison. Camp Ripley while it has some new structures is not built to hold prisoners. As far as the car carriers being used as "prison cars" eck with enough imagination one could consider any enclosed cargo truck seen driving down the road as a "prison truck". If you guys want to be taken seriously you need to stop this far out reaching. It makes you look like silly children with huge imaginations.

I'm not sure I've ever said this before, "I believe billy is right."

alsaqr · « **Reply #54 on:** July 27, 2009, 12:51:29 PM »

Yep, there is no concentration camp at Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma City either. There is no concentration camp anywhere in the USA. Yep, it's just another malicious outhouse rumor brought to you by the far outers.

teamnelson · « **Reply #55 on:** July 27, 2009, 01:09:16 PM »

While there may not be any concentration camps in current operation (which I would tend to agree with), there are many many plans in FEMA and DHS for rapid deployment and rennovation of existing sites to be used to shelter refugees in the event of an incident. There are also logistical support lots stocked for just such a contingency. And the procedures for implementation have been trained and refined for coordination between federal agencies and military units, typically national guard. This is all above board, and widely disseminated information. My understanding is that they can roll one of these out in hours, as we've learned alot about building a FOB in OIF/OEF rapidly out of nothing.

What I think most people (correctly) worry about is whether these plans/materials will be used for refugee camps or concentration camps.

The key here is the incident. FEMA/DHS have been wargaming a CBRN incident for years now, as that is a likely act of domestic/internation terrorism. Second to that is a viral outbreak. If either one of those occurred, we'd learn real quick the nature of those camps. My larger concern is the incident itself - whoever initiates it will shape largely how those camps are used.

Scibaer · « **Reply #56 on:** July 27, 2009, 01:15:34 PM »

i agree that the new Obama healthcare plan is scary. alot of what that man and his cabinet are trying to do is spooky.
but are they ramping up to enact some martial law round up, within 2 years, 10 , or more ? i cant say, but , based on what i see as 'evidence' from the internet or tinfoil hat websites, i'm confortable in saying that they are not doing anything of the sort.
hell, Obama has tried to do too much, actually and his ratings are dropping fast. what bothers me is, what if he realized this, slows down and actually focuses on one or two issues and puts real effort into them ?

FourBee · « **Reply #57 on:** July 27, 2009, 01:29:04 PM »

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If either one of those occurred, we'd learn real quick the nature of those camps.

TeamNelson; you know that brings up some old tales my dad use to tell us kids when he lived back during the depression. He left Oklahoma for California like so many others who heard there was plenty of work. Only to be herded into large fenced camps. He didn't like it at all. Got outa there fast, and that's another story with a happy ending......

billy_56081 · « **Reply #58 on:** July 27, 2009, 01:47:49 PM »

TM I don't need to contact some nut job websight to verify that Camp Ripley being a "prison camp" is a hoax. I been there hundreds and hundreds of times. I know that the folks in the tinfoil hat crowd never get out of thier mothers basements very often. But hey here some news for ya all, you can actually go to most of these places for real and actually see, now get this actually see with your own 2 eyes, that what they are talking about here is not real. Seriously guts, you are doing way more damage to the folks that don't trust the government than good with this silly childish booger man garbage.

Hey TM if you do a really good job as the comic relief at the BBQ, I'll maybe even take you for a tour of Camp Ripley. Don't worry I'll protect ya from them vicious jack booted Minnesota National Guard soldiers, and even the booger man.

"CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN AMERICA
From http://gulagamerika.homestead.com"

BTW TM I went to the sight you listed above. So are they just hocking furniture, cleaning services and collection services until they can start thier full time jobs at the prison camps?

teamnelson · « **Reply #59 on:** July 27, 2009, 02:28:58 PM »

A lot of the alarmist sites unfortunately wind up obscuring the more scary truth contained within the data by getting the reader to chase their bright shiny object theories. Real evil is far too subtle for the tinfoil hat crowd, and in fact uses that crowd to keep the population distracted. Look at what is being done in the name of global warming, and how the "green" crackpots have all been "legitimized." Lots of money in that game, but it wasn't long ago when tree-huggers wore tinfoil hats.