So,,,,, Who Is Professor Gates....?

[TM7]

Gates' website:

http://www.theroot.com/


He has knocked the famous Negroes at Auction treatise by J. and L.T. Levin

He is married to a white women, Sharon Lyn Adams 
 
Gates' Bio from www.nndb.com   :::
   
Henry Louis Gates, Jr.
Born: 16-Sep-1950
Birthplace: Keyser, WV


Gender: Male
Religion: Christian
Race or Ethnicity: Black
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Author, Columnist

Nationality: United States
Executive summary: The Signifying Monkey

Right leg is two inches shorter than his left, stemming from a misdiagnosed childhood sports injury, hence his nickname "Skip."

In 1983, Gates rediscovered the first book published in America by a black person, Harriet E. Wilson's Our Nig (1859).

On 16 July 2009, Gates was confronted by police in his home after reports that a black man -- Gates -- had broken and entered. After showing the police officer his driver's license with his address on it, Gates berated the policeman for racial profiling, and his hostile attitude prompted a disorderly conduct arrest. He could never have been convicted on the charge, as in Massachusetts disorderly conduct must occur in a public place, not a private residence.

Father: Henry Louis Gates, Sr.
Mother: Pauline Augusta Coleman
Wife: Sharon Lynn Adams (m. 1979, two daughters)


    University: BA History, Yale University
    University: PhD English, Clare College, Cambridge University
    Professor: African and African American Studies Chair, Harvard University (1991-)


    Bretton Woods Committee
    Friends of Hillary
    Harlem Educational Activities Fund, Inc. Board of Directors
    Hillary Clinton for President
    Institute for Jewish Research Overseer
    National Constitution Center Trustee
    Obama for America
    ProPublica Director
    Disorderly Conduct 16-Jul-2009 (Cambridge, MA, charges dropped)
    MacArthur Fellowship 1981
    National Humanities Medal 1998
    Polk Award 1982 (social commentary)
    Sierra Leone Ancestry Mende tribe

 
 
 
fyi...TM7

[mcwoodduck]

I can sum it up faster than that:
Professor Gates is someone who was not complying with the police officer who was trying to carry out his duties of investgating a break in report at his house and just needed proof that he lived there.  Since he did not comply and show ID the office did the right thing and took him to the station, to find out who he is.  If someone were actually breaking into his house and the office let a suspect go who did not show ID, then too would have been about race where the cops do not protect the blacks.  Same if the police avoid his house like the plague.  heck if I were a criminal I would head to his house and look to break in.
He is a small minded man that wants to be a victom and has a chip on his shoulder trying to spead around his leftist leanings.
Both he and the President acted stupidly in this matter.

[Dee]

I can sum it up faster than that:
Professor Gates is someone who was not complying with the police officer who was trying to carry out his duties of investgating a break in report at his house and just needed proof that he lived there.  Since he did not comply and show ID the office did the right thing and took him to the station, to find out who he is.  If someone were actually breaking into his house and the office let a suspect go who did not show ID, then too would have been about race where the cops do not protect the blacks.  Same if the police avoid his house like the plague.  heck if I were a criminal I would head to his house and look to break in.
He is a small minded man that wants to be a victom and has a chip on his shoulder trying to spead around his leftist leanings.
Both he and the President acted stupidly in this matter.

Bravo mcwoodduck, well said and truthful.

TM7, if your gonna take up for the guy tell the truth on his arrest. HE WAS IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE AND HAD DRAWN A SMALL CROWD WITH HIS RANTINGS. i.e. HE WAS IN FULL PUBLIC VIEW AND WITHIN EAR SHOT. "YOU ONCE AGAIN HAVE DISTORTED PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE", WHICH DOES NOT HELP YOUR ALREADY QUESTIONABLE CREDIBILITY.

[mcwoodduck]

No Misshandeling this would have been either giving the professor a wodden shampoo, spraying him with pepper spray, or hitting him with 50,000 volts. and then taking him to the station.
The police office was professional and the Professor should be thanking him for being so professional and protecting his property and family and appoligise for acting like the south end of a north bound Horse.
The Professor probably should have been taken in on a 5150 (Crazy person Right?) as he thinks the MAN is out to get him.  Delousional crazy people are also arrested and not released as quickly.

[myronman3]

they should have just dispatch "kramer" to handle this situation. 

[Badnews Bob]

Sorry there TM but he was outside his house and there where several witnesses. Also two other officers where there when he was taken into custody. very little has been said about that part, that the man who cuffed him was a black campus police officer.

If Gates had shown his ID when first asked and then Shut his mouth This would have never been news. That is all that is to this story. Anyone who runs off at the mouth with a LEO is just asking for whatever he gets.


BTW I am not a LEO and I know better than to smart off to one.

[DDZ]

TM, I think you may have missed some of the story. Or maybe you just don't want to hear it all. So in your mind Crowley should have walked away because Gates is a black comunist professor. Just because someone is a black professor, dosn't mean every cop in the country should know who he is.
When confronted by a police officer you shut your mouth and do as told. It dosn't matter if you are innocent or guilty, it will be sorted out later.  Every time a black man gets arrested by a white cop its all of a sudden a race issue. Gates is just another Black who thinks white people owe him something.

[Dee]

Gates, like others like him, make their LIVING, talking about the sometimes true, and MANY TIMES, "DISTORTED" historical treatment of the black man. To let things die in that regard would be to loose his lively hood.
When I was a kid, and the family dog killed a chicken, my grandma would tie the chicken around his neck where he couldn't get to it and make him wear it until it almost rotted off his neck. No mo chicken for the dog.
Guys like TM, should have guys like Gates, handcuffed to him, until one of them cut their own arm off just to get some peace. TM is sometimes right in some of his assessments, but IS ALWAYS AGAINST, any establishment, even when it's right, just so long as it is against the "white American conservative". His stance on the Muslim is his SIGNATURE.

No TM, I did not miss anything in your post. You misstated FACTS, that have been repeated to the point of boredom, on national TV, concerning the REASON AND LOCATION, of Gates' arrest. Gates became IMMEDIATELY abusive and hostile, and the officer FOLLOWED HIM FOR HIS OWN SAFETY, as he knew not whether Gates was whom he claimed to be, and was going after an I.D., or a weapon. This on the officer's part was a LEARNED COMMON SENSE ACT, learned by officers the hard way all over this nation. BEEN THERE, DONE THAT, MYSELF! Only a fool would let an unidentified out of his site until properly identified. How you can get such a DISTORTED VIEW, out of so many PUBLISHED FACTS, never ceases to amaze myself, and MANY OTHERS on this forum and others.
That so many disagree with you on so many issues, so many times, should at some point, give you pause for thought.

[mcwoodduck]

In a lot a cases the Slaves were treated a lot better than the German, Irish that came here while there still was slavery.
the slaves were expensive and were used for safe work.  The germans and Irish were cheap to rent and there were many more to take there place in Mines and factories.  If a slave was crippled in an accident he was cared for and given light duties.  If a miner or factory worker was injured he was replaced.  Done.
The best way to look at it is a truck you own or one you rent.  the truck you own you will take better care of than the one you rent for a job.

[mechanic]

If this had been the '40s or '50s when my father in law was a cop, this guy would still be nursing a sore head, black or white.  If the police were to show up at my house in that situation, I would show ID, thank them, and offer them refreshments.  They were trying to look after the guy's property.  Just coming on the scene could have gotten them shot at or shot, and for that they get berated.  Glad I'm not a cop.

[ironglow]

  I dunno,  but as I watch those "cops" shows on TV, it appears that many people are arrested in their own home. Whether it is drugs, domestic or just someone like Gates, who refuses the reasonable request of an officer.
  Just why the bio on Gates is germain to the discussion, I have not figured out yet. Everybody has a biography ! That includes Sgt Crowley and the lady who called 911. But the question is not about their position, color, prestiege or background, the question is about how each behaved when they met on this call.
  TM;
     I would hope you are not suggesting Gates should have been treated special because he is black, or a Harvard professor or may have a root of bitterness from decades past. That would be a bigoted view as I see it.
   Frankly, if he is such a brilliant individual then he must have known that by quietly showing his ID with address and thanking the officers for doing their job, it would have all ended right there and all would went happily on their way..
   So, just how bright is he ?
  Another question; the lady called 911, saying there were 2 people pushing their way into the house..who is the other mysterious person ? Why do we hear nothing from him/her? Seems like that person would be a valuable witness...Hmmmmm
   

   BTW: Everyone here should click onto Gates' website, THE ROOT which TM gave the address for... It will be enlightening!
  I tried to read it impartially by pretending Gates were white and using the term white or caucasian where Gates actually used black or African-American.
  Clearly, if Gates were white and was so hung up on white news, claims, events to the exclusion of others, he would come off as a certified nut-case and possible racist. By reading that website (IMO) one can see where Gates could very well have had a certain truculence about him when a white cop showed up to check on a possible illegal entry.
    Surely, a bit more patience and cooperation, and there would have been no need for the escalation.

[Brett]

Witnesses cooberate Sgt. Crowley's report that he was leaving the scene but Gates followed him out of the house continuing to berate him, yelling loudly and creating a scene in front of a gathering crowd of civilians and other LEOs.  Crowley warned Gates several times to calm down and lower his voice or he would be arrested for causing a public disturbance but Gates would not let up.

Gates is nothing more than a black man with a big chip on his shoulder.  When he saw a white police officer show up at his door all he saw was an opportunity to "prove" the world how the black man is always beat down and not given any respect by whitie.   And the dumb @$$ black president we have jumped right in on the band wagon with both feet on national TV.  (A briliant way to improve race relations threw out the country I can assure you.  )  Only problem was they had the wrong cop.  Sgt. Crowley is a decorated, well respected officer who instructs fellow cops how to handle inter-racial situations between cops and civilians.  Even his partner, a black cop by the way, stands behind Crowley and stating that Sgt. Crowley did everything by the book.

[45-70.gov]

gates 
jesse jackson
sharpton
NAACP
klue kluts klan
united  negro college  fund
black panthers
 ACORN
etc  etc 

all  broker  RASISM
 
now  we  can  count  OBAMA    amoung them
 the cop was  doing  his  job  nothing  more  nothing  less

neither   of the 2  racist  would  apologize  to  him

[Brett]

If the cops actually showed up at my place to investigate a possible B&E while the suspects were actual still on the scene I would be ecstatic.   And even if it was a mistake and I was the suspected burgler I would still be glad that they showed up and I would fully expect them to thoroughly check out who I was.  I would not be upset or insulted in the least regardless of what race the officers were.   Gates needs to get a grip and remove the chip from his shoulder.

[45-70.gov]

If the cops actually showed up at my place to investigate a possible B&E while the suspects were actual still on the scene I would ecstatic.   And even if it was a mistake and I was the suspected burgler I would still be glad that they showed up and I would fully expect them to thoroughly check out who I was.  I would not be upset or insulted in the least regardless of what race the officers were.   Gates needs to get a grip and remove the chip from his shoulder.

his  chip  was  removed

then  OBAMA  put  it back  on  his shoulder for  him

in 2010  we can  remove  OBAMAS  chip from his shoulder

[bearmgc]

So maybe wife Sharon Lynn, decides celebrity marriage to a victim-oriented, angry black professor aint all its cracked up to be, and divorces him, only to fall into the celebrity bed of an ammoral, media neglected, frizzy haired Woody Allen. A more manly choice...Remember, I said it first.

[williamlayton]

I am not usually a defender of  TM7, however, in this case I have read it three times and the responses are like a cue ball off a bumper pool table.
They just do not follow the logic of the conversation.
I am not saying there was anything not correct about the situation---the answers just do not follow the question---they jump to another subject entirely.
This is a beautiful example of profiling and the dangers of it.
JMTCW.
Blessings

[m-g Willy]

The way I take it is,- Gates did show ID in the house .
It was only after Crowly was on the front porch with Gates ranting and raving that the disorderly conduct came into play!

[williamlayton]

 

[powderman]

Gates is a racist like his buddy osama. Should have kept his big mouth shut. Some of you here helped elect that scum. POWDERMAN. 

[slim rem 7]

brett said what my position would be... gates just another horrible example to young black people..or so it seems. slim

[45-70.gov]

brett said what my position would be... gates just another horrible example to young black people..or so it seems. slim

SAME  FOR  BARRACK  INSANE OBAMA

[Oldtimer]

If there is a Fourth Amendment issue here, then maybe it should be a separate thread.  I had been wondering about police procedure, since much seems to hinge on the idea that Gates was in his own home.  Dee's is the first post anywhere I have seen that addressed the issue.  Thanks, Dee.

In the first place, it is necessary to establish that it is his home to be able to make any comment about the appropriateness of following actions.  Crowley did this, despite Gates' objections.  Second, it is necessary to establish that the second person is accounted for.  If he were hiding and had a gun on Gates, then it would have really hit the fan if Crowley had just walked away and then something had happened to Gates.  For this reason, Crowley would have to get Gates in a place where he could assure that Gates was not being coerced in any way.  An easy way to do this is to get the person out of the house.  These have been two aspects that have been glossed over in liberal posts that I have read. 

Finally, Gates was in front of his house when he was abusing Crowley.  The transcripts show that he came out without his cane, so that he had to request to get it before going to the station.  If you truly believe this is a violation of the castle doctrine, take off all your clothes and go outside and water the lawn.  Let us know how it goes.

[Matt]

For those of you who notice your posts are gone... well no need to ask who or why... Me and becuase you continue to act like children... Grow up or go away... matters not to me.

Matt

[williamlayton]

Das ist goot.
Blessings

TM
In relationship too your original question.
It matters not that he is/or isn't and activist. The question is who is he and what are his leanings.
I oft wonder how men who owe much too this nation for its freedoms can turn about face and want too somehow reverse roles for what they percieve happened too their forefathers--if--they can figger out what it is they are mad about.
Gates, while he is, without question, intelligent, motivated and sucessful, wants something he cannot get---much like a drug addict seeking the euphoria of his/her first high.
The constitution cannot be the culprit or the answer, neither can liberties.
If many could really focus on what they want, perhaps, there could be dialogue.
Blessings 

[nomosendero]

Das ist goot.
Blessings

TM
In relationship too your original question.
It matters not that he is/or isn't and activist. The question is who is he and what are his leanings.
I oft wonder how men who owe much too this nation for its freedoms can turn about face and want too somehow reverse roles for what they percieve happened too their forefathers--if--they can figger out what it is they are mad about.
Gates, while he is, without question, intelligent, motivated and sucessful, wants something he cannot get---much like a drug addict seeking the euphoria of his/her first high.
The constitution cannot be the culprit or the answer, neither can liberties.
If many could really focus on what they want, perhaps, there could be dialogue.
Blessings 

There would be nothing wrong with knowing what he wants, but this was a matter of right & wrong, doing the right thing or the wrong thing & he was wrong, bottom line.

[ironglow]

  Of course it is necessary to ascertain that the man matches the house..easy to do if both cooperate..
 m Then there is the question of the second..mysterious..no-name person who entered the house with Gates. Sure seems if Gates were in the right, this "mystery person" would be a good witness for Gates.
  Why do we STILL know nothing about this # 2 person ?

[powderman]

IG. Good question, I'd forgotten about that. Must not have had anything to say that would have helped gates. OR, maybe somebody gates did NOT want to be known to associate with. POWDERMAN. 

[45-70.gov]

maybe  the driver  is also  his  coke connection

[powderman]

maybe  the driver  is also  his  coke connection

Or his boyfriend? Maybe a hooker? POWDERMAN.