Is There No Cure For Mosinitis?

[gandog56]

A year ago January I had no Mosin Nagants.

Just got #10 not too long ago. Knew that C&R license was gonna get me in trouble!

[Mikey]

gandog:  no, there is no cure for Mosinitus, or Mauseritus, or the K-31 Syndrome, or the SKS Infection.  You will suffer from these unfulfilled desires for the rest of your life.  For me, I just hope I have enough Mausers for the undertaker to make my coffin out of rifle stocks and I will ask my gunsmith to make sure I am permanently bedded in wiht all my stuff.  Who sez ya can't take it with ya.........

[gandog56]

Well, I do have an AK, and SKS, a K98, a Steyr M95, an M1895 Nagant, and a CZ52, so it isn't pure mosinitis.

But Mosins are just so much cheaper than other milsurps............

[S.S.]

The Obama-Biden Democlap will kill you before Mosinitis will anyway so
why look for a cure?

[mannyrock]

  Yes, indeed, I am happy to say that there is a SURE-CURE.

  Get a Mosin Carbine, and about 500 rounds of ammunition.  Go out to your gun range in the middle of August, when the temperature is about 100 degrees, with 90% humidity. 

  Put a large target up at about 100 yards.

  Then, sit at the bench, put that steel butt-plate in your shoulder (no-pads allowed), and start shooting.

  Keep shooting until you (a) pass-out from the concussion, (b) hemorrage in the shoulder from the recoil, (c) black out from the heat, (d) throw-up from shock, or (e) shoot all 500 rounds, whichever comes first.

  After you are revived, and released from the emergency room, I am confident that you will never be interested in holding or shooting any type of Moisen again. 

Regards,

Mannyrock


   

[mechanic]

I recommend replacement therapy.  Buy a Handi rifle or twelve....

[Mikey]

Manny - c'mon man, all the rifle diseases like Mosititus are life-long afflictions that require weekly group therapy.  That's right, weekly.  Gandog and a buncha his buddies all take their Mosins (or whatever) to the range once a week for group therapy.  Those who get the best groups get to buy the refreshments.  So it isn't really a effective cure to try and shoot all 500 rounds in one sitting as group therapy is often prolonged and focused on improvement.  Gotta leave room for improvement.......... jmtcw..........

[mannyrock]

Mikey,

   The problem with the Group Therapy you describe is that it sounds like all of the members eventually become secret "enablers," a will start slipping spare cartridges to the afflicted, under the table. It is like letting alcoholics try to "wean" themselves off of alcohol, by sitting in bars with other alcoholics and drinking from smaller shot glasses.  :-)

Mannyrock

   

[RIjake]

  Yes, indeed, I am happy to say that there is a SURE-CURE.

  Get a Mosin Carbine, and about 500 rounds of ammunition.  Go out to your gun range in the middle of August, when the temperature is about 100 degrees, with 90% humidity. 

  Put a large target up at about 100 yards.

  Then, sit at the bench, put that steel butt-plate in your shoulder (no-pads allowed), and start shooting.

  Keep shooting until you (a) pass-out from the concussion, (b) hemorrage in the shoulder from the recoil, (c) black out from the heat, (d) throw-up from shock, or (e) shoot all 500 rounds, whichever comes first.

  After you are revived, and released from the emergency room, I am confident that you will never be interested in holding or shooting any type of Moisen again. 

Regards,

Mannyrock

LOL, I did just that today.  Temps in the 90's, high humidity.  My buddy's M44 and 40 rounds of my ammo.  I only got through 20 rounds before I put it away!  The .22s and M4's are much easier on my previously surgically repaired shoulder.  Ouch

[gandog56]

Manny - c'mon man, all the rifle diseases like Mosititus are life-long afflictions that require weekly group therapy.  That's right, weekly.  Gandog and a buncha his buddies all take their Mosins (or whatever) to the range once a week for group therapy.  Those who get the best groups get to buy the refreshments.  So it isn't really a effective cure to try and shoot all 500 rounds in one sitting as group therapy is often prolonged and focused on improvement.  Gotta leave room for improvement.......... jmtcw..........

Funny you should say that. I was just at the range not too long ago with a couple buddies. I had both of them to my right firing Mosins, the guy to my left was firing one, and the guy two benches down from him was firing one. We had a lot of people looking down at our end to try to figure out what was making them awesome muzzle blasts.

[kix]

  Yes,there is. I bought a 1936 Tula-hex about two years ago,put a Daryl Harrison scout mount with a 4xBurris LER scope and went to the range. To say I was displeased would be an understatement and that wasn't my only trip after experimenting with different loads and such. And the bore looked good. I only bought the thing because it was cheap and I had a severe case of "gunitis". Now It is only taking up space but I'm glad to hear that you like them.  Kix

[gandog56]

Well, I am kind of wondering if you spent more scoping the thing than the rifle cost. I would definitely shoot the thing first to see if it grouped good enough before I spent the money gussying it up. I have 10 Mosin Nagants, and only one of them disappoints me with it's accuracy. But since I only spent 80 bucks on it I didn't lose a whole lot. I don't expect $80 guns to be as accurate as $500 or more guns.

[kix]

  Gandog I see your point but I really did expect it to print better than 10"groups at 100 yds.even with different loads.I like to hunt with my mil-surps and had no problem getting my K-31,K-98,Swede,Vz-24 and Garand shooting acceptable hunting groups and all with the first rounds I loaded but that darn 91-30 has frustrated me as you can tell.And you're right,I only spent $107 for the rifle shipped and the Burris I already had so I'm not that far in the hole;I just expected better.Good shooting.  Kix

[Badnews Bob]

I don't care much for the M44s but I really like my 91-30 and it will shoot inside of 2" at 100yards with good ammo that;s plenty deer accurate. I have been thinking about getting a m44 and bubbatizing it just to shoot cast out of at lower speeds. I am thinking a 200 or 210 hard cast at 1500 to 1800 would work well on deer at the 75 yards or less I normally hunt at. Couldn't get much cheaper.


BTW by bubbatizing I mean to cut the stock down remove all traces of the bayonet painting it with a rattle can, Maybe making some sort of peep sight set up for it. I know some guys cringe at doing this but, I would never do this to my 91-30, Or my mausers, also to me m44s are already crappy rifles,  I figure this way you get a usable hunting rifle you could lone or keep at camp and not have a lot wrapped up in it if something happened to it.

[gandog56]

  Gandog I see your point but I really did expect it to print better than 10"groups at 100 yds.even with different loads.I like to hunt with my mil-surps and had no problem getting my K-31,K-98,Swede,Vz-24 and Garand shooting acceptable hunting groups and all with the first rounds I loaded but that darn 91-30 has frustrated me as you can tell.And you're right,I only spent $107 for the rifle shipped and the Burris I already had so I'm not that far in the hole;I just expected better.Good shooting.  Kix

I hear you, but absolutely none of my Mosins shoot that bad. And my Finn M39 and one of my Finn capture 91/30's shoot really well.

[gandog56]

I don't care much for the M44s but I really like my 91-30 and it will shoot inside of 2" at 100yards with good ammo that;s plenty deer accurate. I have been thinking about getting a m44 and bubbatizing it just to shoot cast out of at lower speeds. I am thinking a 200 or 210 hard cast at 1500 to 1800 would work well on deer at the 75 yards or less I normally hunt at. Couldn't get much cheaper.


BTW by bubbatizing I mean to cut the stock down remove all traces of the bayonet painting it with a rattle can, Maybe making some sort of peep sight set up for it. I know some guys cringe at doing this but, I would never do this to my 91-30, Or my mausers, also to me m44s are already crappy rifles,  I figure this way you get a usable hunting rifle you could lone or keep at camp and not have a lot wrapped up in it if something happened to it.

Well, I do cringe a little. But as long as whatever you do can be restored I say go ahead. The only thing is cut the stock DOWN? I need longer stocks, which I achieve by adding screw on recoil pads that add about an inch.

[Badnews Bob]

What I am gonna do won't be restorable, you won't be able to put the bayo back on, As to the stocks, I don't mean make it shorter but to trim up the front and make it easier to handle, all that wood is not required for hunting.  There are millions of those things out there cutting up a few won't hurt.

[gandog56]

Don't say such things to a Mosin purist!

[gandog56]

What I am gonna do won't be restorable, you won't be able to put the bayo back on, As to the stocks, I don't mean make it shorter but to trim up the front and make it easier to handle, all that wood is not required for hunting.  There are millions of those things out there cutting up a few won't hurt.

Then why get an M44 with a bayonet? Seems like an M38 or 91/59 would more fit your bill, since it doesn't have one.

[Badnews Bob]

M44s are easier to get cheap around here.

[RIjake]

I just got my first Mosin.  A '42 M38.  i spent the weekend removing the cosmoline and refinishing the stock.  I fought with myself if I should touch the wood but after cleaning the cosmo off it, I figured it'd be OK.  Came out great.  This will be the only permanent mod I make to it.  I already want to get a M44 and sporterize it with an ATI stock, scout scope etc.

[mannyrock]

   
    The problem with Mosins is that they are what they are, and you can't improve on them.  Split receivers, impossible safeties, horrendous muzzle blast (carbines), commie-euro hump-backed stocks, and terrible sights.   The only positive point is they are dirt cheap.  They are the V.W. Bug of Military Bolt Actions.  No thank you.  :-)

  Mannyrock



   

[pslshooter]

BTW by bubbatizing I mean to cut the stock down remove all traces of the bayonet painting it with a rattle can, Maybe making some sort of peep sight set up for it. I know some guys cringe at doing this but, I would never do this to my 91-30, Or my mausers, also to me m44s are already crappy rifles,  I figure this way you get a usable hunting rifle you could lone or keep at camp and not have a lot wrapped up in it if something happened to it.

There is a company that makes adjustable peep sights for the M-N   http://www.mojosights.com/
I put one of thes in my '42 m30 and it shrank the group from 4-5" at 100 yds to 3" and under using my 174 BTHP loads I make for it

I go with the $60 poly stock instead of using the orig wood, length of pull is better and it is a monte carlo style. They can be found at cheaper than dirt or just about anywhere that deals with M-N.
I did an M-44 for a guy a few month ago. He wanted the sights and blokcs completely removed, drilled and tapped for an SVD side rail, I did some minor trigger work and made a new bolt handle. It turned out as a good shooter, but the parts and labor cost him almost as much as a new Remmy 700 would have cost him.

[gandog56]

   
    The problem with Mosins is that they are what they are, and you can't improve on them.  Split receivers, impossible safeties, horrendous muzzle blast (carbines), commie-euro hump-backed stocks, and terrible sights.   The only positive point is they are dirt cheap.  They are the V.W. Bug of Military Bolt Actions.  No thank you.  :-)

  Mannyrock

Strong as a rock, I operate the safety just fine, I LIKE the muzzle blast, stocks are fine. Now what other rifle you going to get that good for about 80 bucks? Only one that comes close is a Steyr M95. (Which I have, too!)

[Frank46]

Nope, no cure for moisinitus, mauseritus or martini's either. Them  things seem to breed all by themselves. first you get one then before you know it, there's another along side it. Incureable is what I call it. Frank

[JASmith]

I hope I'm not bruising any egos, but the Mosin-Nagant was used by NVA and VC snipers who were MUCH smaller than us westerners -- they did a lot of shooting with very thin clothing.  Per Carlos Hathcock's story (Whitefeather in paperback) on of the best and most notorious was a woman.   I'll let you figure out how her story ended!

[Old Fart]

To answer your question.....................................................no.